Just Like Old Times

[Madre Hill, Superstar]

I'll just leave this here:

[Orenthal]

Also Bosh and James missed possible game tying 3's in the final seconds. Coming from ahead by 24 to lose.

[peeker643]

Thank God Bosh is so tough. That coulda killed a lesser fake bad-ass.

[Larvell Blanks]

I'd say it reminds me of James to Gooden except the fact that Gooden expected the ball before head butting it into Loudville.

[papacass]

LeBron: No points, rebounds or assists in the fourth quarter.

That's definitely LeBron's team down there, right? That's what anyone with a microphone is saying. Wade might be Mr. Heat, but that's LeBron's team. So.....yeah, that's LeBron's team.

[Triple-S]

I keep imagining how screwed they'll be when Wade finally goes down with an injury as he has shown in times past, shocked it hasn't happened by now.

[peeker643]

"Shock and concern" from LeBron, Wade and Bosh after the game last night.
"LeBron has never taken losses as hard as he has the last two losses."

Windhorst on Cowherd show.


I hope they're despondent enough to all shoot themselves and then hang themselves after they each swallow a bottle of bleach.

[StewieG]

I think that means LeBron's about to quit. Actually, with no points, rebounds or assists in the 4th quarter, he already may have.

[Triple-S]

I'll just leave this here:

LOOK AT ALL THE EMPTY SEATS HERE TONIGHT!

[papacass]

BTW, LeBron really sucks at playing the villain. He's trying to be all brash and cocky with his pissy remarks on Twitter, but it's not him.

LeBron's not a bad-ass. He doesn't feed off the animosity. He doesn't like it when people boo him. It sincerely bothers him. He wants to be popular. He feels defensive knowing that every night there are 20,000 pairs of eyes on him, and millions more via TV, waiting with a macabre fascination to see if he unravels psychologically. And I think that will continue to affect him in pressure situations.

[Madre Hill, Superstar]

"LeBron has never taken losses as hard as he has the last two losses.

Some quotes deserve to be left alone and taken at face value. This is one of them.

[motherscratcher]

BTW, LeBron really sucks at playing the villain. He's trying to be all brash and cocky with his pissy remarks on Twitter, but it's not him.

LeBron's not a bad-ass. He doesn't feed off the animosity. He doesn't like it when people boo him. It sincerely bothers him. He wants to be popular. He feels defensive knowing that every night there are 20,000 pairs of eyes on him, and millions more via TV, waiting with a macabre fascination to see if he unravels psychologically. And I think that will continue to affect him in pressure situations.

Which makes it even more indefensible and reprehensible that on Dec 2nd the Cavs players seemed to almost go out of their way to make him feel comfortable and at home.

[noles1]

"LeBron has never taken losses as hard as he has the last two losses.

Some quotes deserve to be left alone and taken at face value. This is one of them.

I know, shocking, right?

Guy has played in countless playoff games and this quote is made about a couple a reg. season games after he tweets a few days prior.

Amazing how selfish he really is the more you read and think about that quote more and more.

[papacass]

Bulls 87, Heat 86

Another game, another blown lead, another chance to win at the buzzer, another miss for LeBron, with a miss by Wade for good measure.

LeBron has never taken losses as hard as he's taken the last three losses.

[e0y2e3]

Wade, Miller, Rose and LBJ each took turns trying to lose that game.

Gross gross ending.

That said did you catch Rose on the post game? Guy wasn't even a bit happy because he knew (and admitted publicly) he almost cost his team that game and had to get bailed out.

If you can't get behind D-Rose you really shouldn't watch sports. Guy is pure class.

[noles1]

Wade, Miller, Rose and LBJ each took turns trying to lose that game.

Gross gross ending.

That said did you catch Rose on the post game? Guy wasn't even a bit happy because he knew (and admitted publicly) he almost cost his team that game and had to get bailed out.

If you can't get behind D-Rose you really shouldn't watch sports. Guy is pure class.

Agree. Loved his comments and mentality after the game.

That said, Luol Deng stood out to me. That guy might be the most under-appreciated player in the league.

Miami is a mess. Reminded me of a whiny high school team too. Bosh running around on timeouts trying to pump guys up. Just incredibly odd team and dynamic down there right now.

[StewieG]

Apparently Heat players are crying in the locker room after this one :)

EDIT: Completely agree about Rose. One of my favorite non-Cavs

[papacass]

Rose is right. Chicago doesn't win that game if Miami isn't on the verge of a collective nervous breakdown in clutch situations.

Rose needs to file that away. You can just kind of let Miami get their choke on. Let them stew in their own juices, and they'll probably screw up enough to lose. That's not going to fly against another elite team, though. You have to be better.

[e0y2e3]

Agreed re: Deng, guy was just built to be a third option on offense/top option on D. His length is going to be huge in the playoffs.

And the biggest reason I bring up Rose's comments is because I can't remember LBJ saying anything along those lines ever. Just night and day.

[papacass]

Per Windy's Twitter, Bosh says he wasn't among those crying in the locker room, but he "almost did."

Granite pillar, that young man is.

[e0y2e3]

Wow - Stewie right:

WindhorstESPN Brian Windhorst
Spoelstra said some Heat players are crying in the locker room at the moment.

WindhorstESPN Brian Windhorst
That they care but he may regret he revealed it RT @jadande You think Spoelstra said that to show his players care or show they're fragile?

And the clincher..........

WindhorstESPN Brian Windhorst
Bosh said he was not one of the guys crying but that he almost did.

Bahahaha.

1-16 in the last ten seconds of games with the chance to tie or go ahead will do that to ya I guess.

[e0y2e3]

damn you cass!

[e0y2e3]

Honestly what a fucking bunch of bitch ass cunts.

If they hadn't done everything in their power thus far to prove how entitled they are crying because of 5 regular season losses stands as a shining beacon of how easy these fuckstains thought this season was going to be. Pussies actually thought that they were gonna get handed the ring as soon as they signed the dotted line on those new contracts and can't handle having to actually work for it now.

Now Wade: "the world is getting what it wanted and the Heat are losing" Sniffle sniffle.

This is one of the most epic sports team melt downs I have ever seen.

[Larvell Blanks]

Deng seems to be taking and making a ton of big shots for Los Bulls. Will be the X factor in these playoffs

Enjoying Rose this year. Seems like he took this years FA fiasco personally and wants to prove to the 3 Amigos they made a mistake by not considering going to Chi.

And e0 is right, James never made post game comments like that. He was too concerned making sure that Lisa Salters was aware that James knew here name and delivering his Nuke Laloosh cliches

[papacass]

Sorry about bringing Windy into the conversation. I just couldn't resist anything that has to do with Bosh "almost crying." Which probably means he cried so hard he had snot running down his lip.

[Orenthal]

loving this thread

[e0y2e3]

Sorry about bringing Windy into the conversation. I just couldn't resist anything that has to do with Bosh "almost crying." Which probably means he cried so hard he had snot running down his lip.

Naw, I was bringing up you beating me to it. I ran like a Doberman chasing a steak to Windy's twitter as soon as I saw Stewie's comments as well.

Who could pass that up.

Bosh: "I almost cried"

Wade: "None of you liked us and now you get what you wanted"

LBJ: "sniffle.... sniffle.... anyone got a tissue? Z, just give me your jersey"

[noles1]

This is unbelievable...

To Wade's 14 yr. old whining, LBJ's entire demeanor and Chris Bosh just being Chris Bosh.

This might be more enjoyable than had LeDouche blown his knee out.

[e0y2e3]

Honestly, my mind is still blown. They are crying over losing 5 of 6 regular season games and because no one likes them?

I mean, look at this: http://deadspin.com/#!5776759/bawlers-a ... -in-sports

Those are big loses. Season and career defining moments (especially the last one).

This is a bunch of pussies who can't handle the game.

[Madre Hill, Superstar]

loving this thread

Me too, amigo. I can't disagree with a single thing said today.

[StewieG]

We know one thing: This is most definitely LeBron's team. The whining, the crying, the undeserved sense of entitlement...that's him to a T.

[e0y2e3]

http://yfrog.com/h6xickgj

[Squints]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



So true about it being LeBron's team.

But wait, aren't all supposed to "get over it."

[e0y2e3]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_d ... nba-330370

[motherscratcher]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Miami-Heat-players-moved-to-tears-after-another-?urn=nba-330370

The only thing better than that article is the comments after it. I'd keep reading them but I get slightly dumber after each one, and I just can't risk any more.

[waborat]

1-16 in the last ten seconds of games with the chance to tie or go ahead will do that to ya I guess.

You couldn't accidentally miss that many game winning shots

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Can I pile on Bron as a Laker fan?

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=310306024

Dear Bron...can't be The King if you never been fitted for the Crown...you sissy

Mental midget, emotional weakling, unable to overcome adversity...all these define the waste of talent that is LeBron Jammies

[papacass]

<------ In case you missed the Bron/Wade double facepalm.

[hermanfontenot]

And the biggest reason I bring up Rose's comments is because I can't remember LBJ saying anything along those lines ever. Just night and day.

That's the difference between a guy who talks the old-school game and a guy who plays the old-school game. Rose is a throwback- no pimping, no preening, no dancing, just balling. Love his game and his demeanor.

And Wade, seriously- what a bitch.

[Triple-S]

Call me crazy, but maybe the whole "lets all sign and create super teams" could be severely slowed down do in part to this possible meltdown.

The Big 3 in Miami did it assuming that if you just happened to toss two possible future HOF'ers on one team and one all-star that they could watch the championships just pour in. No need to work on their game, or possibly get important role-players via the front office.

Maybe we will be seeing less Chris Bosh, LeBron sort of players thanks to this, and more Durant/Rose sort of guys who work their asses off to become winners.

[peeker643]

Call me crazy, but maybe the whole "lets all sign and create super teams" could be severely slowed down do in part to this possible meltdown.

The Big 3 in Miami did it assuming that if you just happened to toss two possible future HOF'ers on one team and one all-star that they could watch the championships just pour in. No need to work on their game, or possibly get important role-players via the front office.

Maybe we will be seeing less Chris Bosh, LeBron sort of players thanks to this, and more Durant/Rose sort of guys who work their asses off to become winners.

Or maybe three who aren't quite so gutless, heartless and stupid do it. Been talked about before but the league has had teams like the Showtime Lakers that were more talented and better comprised with the right parts. Bird, Kareem , Worthy didn't win em all either. Probably because Bird/McHale/Parrish/et al were around.

Look at something even as outdated as the NBA Top 50 list from whenever that was put out and look at all the stars there who played two and three together.

More teams now for sure so talent is spread thinner and theoretically grouping a few guys together like in Miami would provide talent advantages that aren't easy too match.

But e0y2e3 was right when he said this was nothing new. I still think his timing was bad but he was right. Righter every day it seems. Like the addition of more teams wasn't much more than a bunch of smart businessmen making fistfuls of cash.

But again, you need the right guys. Those three are going to go cannibalistic at some point and I'll bet my house Wade comes out with the blood of the other two running down his chin

Well, he would if the league would allow it.

He might be a bitch, but in that threesome he's the alpha bitch.

[noles1]

Simmons's alpha dog theory and "secret" are continuing to ring true. Maybe now moreso than ever in light of this experiment.

And the more you watch of Lebron James you really have to ask if he is a more effective player with him as the only primary focal point. I mean, he's playing really, really hard for them over the course of the season but it's not mattering like it used too. If he had played that Celtics series with this much intensity he's had this year the outcome would have been a helluva lot more different.

It's really fascinating though, especially when you factor in they can only make really one major move next year with the mid-level. (if there is even a season...)

[Madre Hill, Superstar]

If there even is a mid-level.

And if Wade truly was the alpha, he'd be getting more last minute shots. All you need to watch is the 'Global Icon' and Four Guys Waiting For A Bus offense in play in South Beach to know who's running the show with his high school entourage. If this thing does implode, I'm almost tempted to believe Wade would be on the next flight to Chicago or Oklahoma City faster than you could say 'road to Damascus'.

[Triple-S]

But e0y2e3 was right when he said this was nothing new. I still think his timing was bad but he was right. Righter every day it seems. Like the addition of more teams wasn't much more than a bunch of smart businessmen making fistfuls of cash.

But again, you need the right guys. Those three are going to go cannibalistic at some point and I'll bet my house Wade comes out with the blood of the other two running down his chin

Well and great points being made here as well. I do think, looking at things in hindsight without the whole "Grrr..f-ing NBA, f-lebron" post-decision haze in your eyes, Eyo's posts seems to make a hell of a lot more sense.

[e0y2e3]

BTW: I am not sure if I should be confused, happy or sad about today's ESPN self critique re: overcovering the Heat.

Dumbfounded for sure, but lost as well.

At least Windy got more $$$ for his Pork Rinds. Fat fucking lazy bitch ass pussy.

[bookelly]

Schadenfruede - I has it.

Wade made his Faustian bargain. I gotta think he now regrets his Olympic recruiting crusade ("Dude, it's hot here year round, and the girls are hotter!")

Karma's a LeBitch.

EDIT - Don't blame Windy. He's a good reporter following a story. That's his job, and he does it well.

[StewieG]

Excellent stuff, as always, from Woj. I have to think he's loving every second of this, maybe as much as we are.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=a ... sues030611

[jb]

One of my favorite non-Cavs

You have favorite cavs?

[jb]

This is one of the most epic sports team melt downs I have ever seen.

Whicg of course means they will rise from the ashes to win the title and they can crow to ESPN about their resiliance and character.

That's how fate does us as if we're Danny Green after the dentist.

OIC.

[jb]

1-16 in the last ten seconds of games with the chance to tie or go ahead will do that to ya I guess.

You couldn't accidentally miss that many game winning shots

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/early-lead/2011/03/the_miami_heat_clutch_reel_in.html