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by jta1975 » Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:00 pm
by jta1975 » Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:04 pm
by MikeCheckGW » Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:26 am
by jb » Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:28 am
by hiko » Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:07 pm
jb wrote:Given that Walrus said we're going to draft a project QB (sorry WR WVU kid posing as a QB ) I hope this means that we'll never have to look at Jake ever again.
by SoulDawg74 » Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:11 pm
hiko wrote:jb wrote:Given that Walrus said we're going to draft a project QB (sorry WR WVU kid posing as a QB ) I hope this means that we'll never have to look at Jake ever again.That's exactly what it means. They'll cut him after the draft.After I heard about Wallace re-signing, I wondered where Jake (Cleveland Jake) stood in the long line of awfulness at QB for the Browns since 1999. I thought about what the list might be, how they would be ordered, and it really is an impossibility because just when you think you've got the worst of them all, then you remember someone else. It's sickening.
by jb » Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:17 pm
by hiko » Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:29 pm
by SoulDawg74 » Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:33 pm
jb wrote:"professionalism" ?He brought pick sixes via blind throws that made even Vinny yell "what are u doing !?!?" and QUIT on the field when he threw them.Worst Browns starting QB EVER.
by jb » Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:40 pm
by jb » Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:43 pm
by hiko » Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:52 pm
jb wrote:Hike, I don't count the fill in scrubs like Sperg. I'm talking planned out starting QBs for the season.Only one even close to sucking that bad was Quinn. But look at the QB ratings for the yeRs they started. The dig is Quinn couldn't win a game, but Jake flat out tanked EM like Paul Crew.
by SoulDawg74 » Fri Mar 04, 2011 6:58 pm
jb wrote:Bs Greg.We weren't a bad team. If we had reasonable health and no Jake we go 8-8
by jta1975 » Fri Mar 04, 2011 7:38 pm
by peeker643 » Sat Mar 05, 2011 2:17 am
jta1975 wrote:The two things that killed Jake at the end of his career.First of all he became the worst thing an NFL QB can so and that was he became a creature of habit.Second he could not handle adversity. At the end of his career, every little stove top fire he had ended up burning the whole damn house down. I agree with SD, he was a good mental mentor for Colt. He still could teach the kid what he needed to know and where to get it from. He just can't tow the line any more. Wallace may not be the best mentor but he will be able to show Colt what they want by doing it. Wallace will keep Colt on his toes with a slight warming of the neck from his breath.
by leadpipe » Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:03 am
hiko wrote:Using just his time in Cleveland as the sample size, I still don't think Jake was near the worst QB to trounce through here. Worse than him:Brady QuinnKen DorseyBruce Gradkowski (when he was a Brown)Spurgeon WynnDoug PedersenLuke McCownDerek Anderson (everything after the 1st half of 2007 was so bad that it negates it)Ty Detmer (that whole game)About the same:Trent Dilfer (when he was a Brown)Jeff Garcia (when he was a Brown)Charlie FryeThe book is still out:Seneca WallaceColt McCoyBetter Browns Career (which ain't sayin' much):Tim CouchKelly HolcombDennis Northcutt
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