This one's to tie the big record - Cavs vs Pistons 2/9

[CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07!]

Am I cherrypicking here? Is there a rule on how early you can start a game thread? I picked this game as the likeliest win at least 2 weeks ago, so I feel entitled.

But there's still one more big record to aim for. With a 26th loss, the Cavs will move in to a 3 way tie with the 1889 Louisville Colonels and the 76-77 Tampa Bay Buccaneers for the longest losing streak in American sports history. Considering the Colonels have been defunct for over 110 years and the expansion Bucs did it over 2 seasons, I'd venture to say the Cavs already have the true record, but we may as well take it fair and square.

Just gotta pull out losses to the Pistons and Clippers (both at home), and we're golden. Plus that would set up the Greatest Game of All Time on Sunday, when the 0-25 on the road Wizards play in Cleveland vs the 27 game losing streak Cavs.

[jb]

After two solid efforts I am really worried about his one. In fact, the next few scare me thinking about double digits.

[CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07!]

Jesus. How bad are the Pistons that a team that is currently on a streak for most consecutive losses all-time is actually favored over them?

[motherscratcher]

I want some chatter here. I'll need something to write in the recap.

[CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07!]

Already down 15 midway thru the 2nd. Austin Carr sounds close to suicide.

[peeker643]

Already down 15 midway thru the 2nd. Austin Carr sounds close to suicide.

I see not a single bit of bad news in that paragraph and the latter part has me actually teeming with hope.

Hopefully he hurls himself from The Q scoreboard and lands on Ryan Hollins.

81-70 Good Guys....err Bad Boys...ughh...Pistons after three.

Let's get to 30 in a row and then take our foot of the gas. It's just a nice, round number.
Because when it ends they're no less a national joke and no less a pathetic group of pussies in long shorts.

12/2/10 bitches. The entire roster can go fuck itself.

Time to take a Beta Blocker. I'll be okay.

[Cerebral_DownTime]

This is the worst team in the history of the world. I can't wait till they play the Wizards.

I do not know it could possibly get any fucking worse.

[peeker643]

I want some chatter here. I'll need something to write in the recap.

Well done.

http://bit.ly/ibIPbW

[peeker643]

This is the worst team in the history of the world. I can't wait till they play the Wizards.

That game could potentially be so anti-magical that it's magical. Two girls so horrifically ugly that you bang both on a dare one night when you're historically drunk.

C'mon Cavs...gotta make it happen.

They should change the chant at The Q from "Let's Go Cavs" to "Let's Blow Cavs". Just to see if anyone notices.

[statmasta]

"I'm mad as hell," said Scott, who kept the postgame locker room closed for more than 30 minutes. "I can deal with losing, especially when our guys play as hard as they have in the last couple weeks, but I find it very hard to deal with when guys don't come out ready to play."



Awsome. It took 26 consecutive losses in a row for you to get mad. That's fantastic. You were proud of your guys after the first 25 losses, what changed? Huh? They lost again, you should still be proud.

What a loser.

[motherscratcher]

"I'm mad as hell," said Scott, who kept the postgame locker room closed for more than 30 minutes. "I can deal with losing, especially when our guys play as hard as they have in the last couple weeks, but I find it very hard to deal with when guys don't come out ready to play."



Awsome. It took 26 consecutive losses in a row for you to get mad. That's fantastic. You were proud of your guys after the first 25 losses, what changed? Huh? They lost again, you should still be proud.

What a loser.

I'm pretty sure he answered your question in the quote there.

[CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07!]

Next up in the record books: Anthony Young's 27 consecutive losing decisions.

But I kinda fear the Clips being a reverse trap game, depriving us of Cavs-Wiz. That would suck.

[Prosecutor]

I didn't see the game because I refuse to pay for the NBA Pass to watch this team. So help me out. It looks to me like Hickson and Sessions have stepped up their games the last few weeks. Are these guys establishing themselves as building blocks for the future?

Also, it looks like the Cavs are playing one position too small all across the front line. Hickson is a 4 playing the 5. Jamo is a 3 playing the 4. Eyenga is a 2 who started at the 3 last night. As a result the Cavs gave up 17 offensive boards while getting only 7 themselves for a 10 shot advantage. Combined with the 17-10 turnover advantage and the Pistons put up 18 more shots than the Cavs. Even though the Cavs shot 51% from the field to 43% for the Pistons, the 18 extra shots was too much to overcome.

From what I can tell they're just too small on the front line and they don't take care of the ball.

When they have to bring in Hollins it all goes to hell. 3 fouls and 2 turnovers in 10 minutes for a team high -17. Wow. That must have been an ugly 10 minutes.

If they can draft a quality big man, get AV and Mo back in the lineup, and throw in Hickson and Sessions, could we at least have a mediocre starting five next year?

[peeker643]

I didn't see the game because I refuse to pay for the NBA Pass to watch this team. So help me out. It looks to me like Hickson and Sessions have stepped up their games the last few weeks. Are these guys establishing themselves as building blocks for the future?

Also, it looks like the Cavs are playing one position too small all across the front line. Hickson is a 4 playing the 5. Jamo is a 3 playing the 4. Eyenga is a 2 who started at the 3 last night. As a result the Cavs gave up 17 offensive boards while getting only 7 themselves for a 10 shot advantage. Combined with the 17-10 turnover advantage and the Pistons put up 18 more shots than the Cavs. Even though the Cavs shot 51% from the field to 43% for the Pistons, the 18 extra shots was too much to overcome.

From what I can tell they're just too small on the front line and they don't take care of the ball.

When they have to bring in Hollins it all goes to hell. 3 fouls and 2 turnovers in 10 minutes for a team high -17. Wow. That must have been an ugly 10 minutes.

If they can draft a quality big man, get AV and Mo back in the lineup, and throw in Hickson and Sessions, could we at least have a mediocre starting five next year?

What part of the country do you live in Pros. Assumed you were near here.

Hickson is Drew Gooden lite. There's no other way to put it. He has more balls bounce off his face than a Thai hooker.

This team is full of guys who either don't belong in the league at all or would be 9th though 12th guys on playoff teams. Hickson is in the latter category.

He's kinda missing the 5 dunks a game LBJ got him that have turned into 16-18 footers.

This team is the most miserable collection of stiffs I've ever seen. Ryan Hollins might well be the poster boy.

And lastly, I don't know where Mo Williams is, but he sure as hell ain't killing himself to get back from a strained hip flexor. Two months? Fuck him too.

Most gutless collection of athletes ever assembled.

[leadpipe]

I didn't see the game because I refuse to pay for the NBA Pass to watch this team. So help me out. It looks to me like Hickson and Sessions have stepped up their games the last few weeks. Are these guys establishing themselves as building blocks for the future?

Also, it looks like the Cavs are playing one position too small all across the front line. Hickson is a 4 playing the 5. Jamo is a 3 playing the 4. Eyenga is a 2 who started at the 3 last night. As a result the Cavs gave up 17 offensive boards while getting only 7 themselves for a 10 shot advantage. Combined with the 17-10 turnover advantage and the Pistons put up 18 more shots than the Cavs. Even though the Cavs shot 51% from the field to 43% for the Pistons, the 18 extra shots was too much to overcome.

From what I can tell they're just too small on the front line and they don't take care of the ball.

When they have to bring in Hollins it all goes to hell. 3 fouls and 2 turnovers in 10 minutes for a team high -17. Wow. That must have been an ugly 10 minutes.

If they can draft a quality big man, get AV and Mo back in the lineup, and throw in Hickson and Sessions, could we at least have a mediocre starting five next year?

The only thing "Building Block" concerning Hickson, is his block head. As in every other pass bouncing off of it. As a rule, don't build your team on a foundation of morons.

As for Sessions, it does seem the game's slowing down for him. Still outta control, and missing open guys. The HUGE issue with him, which is being somewhat clouded by the fact that even out of control, he's the team's best player, is the fact that, Christ, he makes Steve Nash look like a good defender. Can't think of a starting point guard in the league, maybe besides Nash, who is a worse defender.

As for playing one position too small, that's less of a problem than them playing 5 positions too "totally suck"

[e0y2e3]

You refused to pay for League Pass last year when they were good and didn't watch any games (as has been proven here many times) Pros.

Stop frontin.

[CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07!]

Who pays for League Pass? I always just find a sucker willing to give me his password.

[e0y2e3]

^ friends with idiots

[peeker643]

^ friends with idiots

Maybe not. I mean, how common could it possibly be to prefer and actually use just one password with maybe some minor variations that one would use for all of his computer accounts?

I can't imagine too many millions of people go about it like that.

Anyone have a password I can borrow to watch Golden Sate games? That's really all I want it for....

[e0y2e3]

I share League Pass with a friend - he gets TV I get web.

The p/w on our account is "basketball"

<- Not friends with idiots

[CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07!]

My friend is a Heat fan. His password the last 2 years was fucklebron (owing to his extreme love for Wade and his inferiority complex that Wade never got the love he deserved due to LBJ). This year its fucklebronmore. Highly doubt he uses that pw for anything else, but now that you mention it, I'm gonna give it a shot.

[Prosecutor]

I didn't see the game because I refuse to pay for the NBA Pass to watch this team. So help me out. It looks to me like Hickson and Sessions have stepped up their games the last few weeks. Are these guys establishing themselves as building blocks for the future?

Also, it looks like the Cavs are playing one position too small all across the front line. Hickson is a 4 playing the 5. Jamo is a 3 playing the 4. Eyenga is a 2 who started at the 3 last night. As a result the Cavs gave up 17 offensive boards while getting only 7 themselves for a 10 shot advantage. Combined with the 17-10 turnover advantage and the Pistons put up 18 more shots than the Cavs. Even though the Cavs shot 51% from the field to 43% for the Pistons, the 18 extra shots was too much to overcome.

From what I can tell they're just too small on the front line and they don't take care of the ball.

When they have to bring in Hollins it all goes to hell. 3 fouls and 2 turnovers in 10 minutes for a team high -17. Wow. That must have been an ugly 10 minutes.

If they can draft a quality big man, get AV and Mo back in the lineup, and throw in Hickson and Sessions, could we at least have a mediocre starting five next year?

What part of the country do you live in Pros. Assumed you were near here.

Hickson is Drew Gooden lite. There's no other way to put it. He has more balls bounce off his face than a Thai hooker.

This team is full of guys who either don't belong in the league at all or would be 9th though 12th guys on playoff teams. Hickson is in the latter category.

He's kinda missing the 5 dunks a game LBJ got him that have turned into 16-18 footers.

This team is the most miserable collection of stiffs I've ever seen. Ryan Hollins might well be the poster boy.

And lastly, I don't know where Mo Williams is, but he sure as hell ain't killing himself to get back from a strained hip flexor. Two months? Fuck him too.

Most gutless collection of athletes ever assembled.

Thanks for the info, Peeks, although I can't say I like the content. I was hoping JJ was coming around after that 39 minute, 31 points, 15 rebounds, and zero turnover performance against Memphis last week. The fact that he had the ball in his hands at least 30 times that game with no turnovers is unbelievable. Then I checked the game logs and it turns out that in 10 of the last 12 games he had two turnovers or less. The other two games he had 3 and 4.

When one of those passes bounces off his block head or steel hands, who gets the turnover in the stat line, JJ or whoever threw the pass?

I live in New England so it's either pay DirecTV or miss out. Except for last year when every game against the Bulls, Celtics, Lakers, Magic, etc was on national TV as well as every playoff game. So I probably saw 35-40 Cavs games last year, all against top competition expect for the Nets and Knicks which are the regional games we get. I based my observations on watching the Cavs against the league's best.

Mike Brown was on ESPN last night and he was saying the Cavs need to use this season to identify who their core players are for next year. You're saying they don't have any except Andy, right?

[e0y2e3]

Fuck, you live in New England?

I'm moving.

[peeker643]

I didn't see the game because I refuse to pay for the NBA Pass to watch this team. So help me out. It looks to me like Hickson and Sessions have stepped up their games the last few weeks. Are these guys establishing themselves as building blocks for the future?

Also, it looks like the Cavs are playing one position too small all across the front line. Hickson is a 4 playing the 5. Jamo is a 3 playing the 4. Eyenga is a 2 who started at the 3 last night. As a result the Cavs gave up 17 offensive boards while getting only 7 themselves for a 10 shot advantage. Combined with the 17-10 turnover advantage and the Pistons put up 18 more shots than the Cavs. Even though the Cavs shot 51% from the field to 43% for the Pistons, the 18 extra shots was too much to overcome.

From what I can tell they're just too small on the front line and they don't take care of the ball.

When they have to bring in Hollins it all goes to hell. 3 fouls and 2 turnovers in 10 minutes for a team high -17. Wow. That must have been an ugly 10 minutes.

If they can draft a quality big man, get AV and Mo back in the lineup, and throw in Hickson and Sessions, could we at least have a mediocre starting five next year?

What part of the country do you live in Pros. Assumed you were near here.

Hickson is Drew Gooden lite. There's no other way to put it. He has more balls bounce off his face than a Thai hooker.

This team is full of guys who either don't belong in the league at all or would be 9th though 12th guys on playoff teams. Hickson is in the latter category.

He's kinda missing the 5 dunks a game LBJ got him that have turned into 16-18 footers.

This team is the most miserable collection of stiffs I've ever seen. Ryan Hollins might well be the poster boy.

And lastly, I don't know where Mo Williams is, but he sure as hell ain't killing himself to get back from a strained hip flexor. Two months? Fuck him too.

Most gutless collection of athletes ever assembled.

Thanks for the info, Peeks, although I can't say I like the content. I was hoping JJ was coming around after that 39 minute, 31 points, 15 rebounds, and zero turnover performance against Memphis last week. The fact that he had the ball in his hands at least 30 times that game with no turnovers is unbelievable. Then I checked the game logs and it turns out that in 10 of the last 12 games he had two turnovers or less. The other two games he had 3 and 4.

When one of those passes bounces off his block head or steel hands, who gets the turnover in the stat line, JJ or whoever threw the pass?

I live in New England so it's either pay DirecTV or miss out. Except for last year when every game against the Bulls, Celtics, Lakers, Magic, etc was on national TV as well as every playoff game. So I probably saw 35-40 Cavs games last year, all against top competition expect for the Nets and Knicks which are the regional games we get. I based my observations on watching the Cavs against the league's best.

Mike Brown was on ESPN last night and he was saying the Cavs need to use this season to identify who their core players are for next year. You're saying they don't have any except Andy, right?

There's a very good chance I'm frustrated and jaded by seeing more than my fair share of 26 straight losses. In many of which JJ looks completely lost. He's strong and he can be effective in the right environment I guess but the issue with him is the same as with the entire roster: the ones who don't blow are all complementary players at best.

In two close losses late in the game Sessions hit JJ with perfect passes off of penetration and both balls banged off some part of his body, an opportunity was lost and the deficit increased.

No, they don't have any core players. Not in my estimation.

[Bigfist]

"I'm mad as hell," said Scott, who kept the postgame locker room closed for more than 30 minutes. "I can deal with losing, especially when our guys play as hard as they have in the last couple weeks, but I find it very hard to deal with when guys don't come out ready to play."



Awsome. It took 26 consecutive losses in a row for you to get mad. That's fantastic. You were proud of your guys after the first 25 losses, what changed? Huh? They lost again, you should still be proud.

What a loser.

My guess, not having watched one game this year, is that they were overconfident and took the Pistons lightly.

[Orenthal]

I share League Pass with a friend - he gets TV I get web.

The p/w on our account is "basketball"

<- Not friends with idiots

No they are friends with you bwahahahahahahaha.

feh

[Orenthal]

At this point no one looks like a future starter on a contending team. Guys are getting better (Eyenga, Harris, Gibson, Samuels, and Sessions) or proving what they are Hickson and Moon (stupid, low IQ low basketball IQ), Hollins (tall), Gee (D-League), Parker and Jamo (old, bench scoring, 0 defense).

bah

[Prosecutor]

At this point no one looks like a future starter on a contending team.

Peeker says that Hickson "can be effective in the right environment", which probably means a Chris Paul or Steve Nash type point guard dishing him the ball off penetration for easy dunks. JJ's rebounding has really picked up since getting temporarily benched, so I'm holding out hope that he can be a solid 4 if Grant can put together "the right environment".

I think Sessions is developing into a PG that can come off the bench, penetrate, draw fouls, knock down the free throws, and generally not hurt you while your starter is resting.

Mo, Jamo, Moon, and Parker will be gone before this team is ready to contend again.

So we have one legit starter (AV), possibly a second (JJ in the right environment), and a backup PG (Sessions). If Harris, Graham, and Eyenga can develop into decent role players off the bench then we just need to hit on our three first round picks in 2011-2103 to become contenders in 2013. I'm not holding out much hope that we'll get any kind of a decent starter for some combination of Jamo, Mo, Moon, Parker, and the trade exemption, although that would be nice if Grant can pull it off. We need another Mark Price or Larry Nance deal, but those days are gone.