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Updated Scout.com Recruiting Rankings

Unread postby danwismar » Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:21 pm

http://ohiostate.scout.com/2/1044185.html

Buckeyes are at #4, and still in the hunt for Curtis Grant, the #1 OLB in the nation, and Aundrey Walker, the big lineman from Glenville. Getting either or both might bump them up a notch, but...

More importantly, you have to go all the way down to #24 to find another Big Ten team (Nebraska), which really points up the widening talent gap between the Buckeyes and everybody else in the conference. IMO, that's the big story.

The other notable item: Two schools (OSU and ND) in the entire Top 25 are east of the Mississippi AND north of the Mason-Dixon. If that ain't a trend, I don't know what is.
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Re: Updated Scout.com Recruiting Rankings

Unread postby gnati » Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:08 pm

danwismar wrote:http://ohiostate.scout.com/2/1044185.html


The other notable item: Two schools (OSU and ND) in the entire Top 25 are east of the Mississippi AND north of the Mason-Dixon. If that ain't a trend, I don't know what is.


I think it is notable that of their Top 100 players, only 15 reside in states with Big Ten schools.

Now, it might be that population shifts have caused an immediate and inordinate number of high school football players from states that historically produce a shit load (technical term) of players like Ohio, Pennsylvania and to a lesser degree Illinois, to all move to California, Texas and SEC states...

Or it might be that Scout isn't run by idiots...and they see that the SEC Brand is on a roll...and people who are on a roll like to hear really good things about themselves, and perhaps might even be willing to pay for it in the form of subscriptions to things like, I don't know, Scout Football Recruiting services...where they will, low and behold, have their views validated...

And the vicious cycle continues.

You know, like the old Lemming way of increasing the number of stars for a player once he committed to ND...except in this case, they beat the rush by making sure an inordinate number of players from the south are ranked high before they have to go through the embarrassing exercise of changing rankings after a commit.

I'm just sayin.
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Re: Updated Scout.com Recruiting Rankings

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:10 pm

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Re: Updated Scout.com Recruiting Rankings

Unread postby JCoz » Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:08 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2011/01/a-look-at-star-power-in-columbus


Very good stuff Eo, thanks for bringing it.

Just wets the appetite though on the subject.....the analysis is about as bare bones as can be (Chris Browns)....11 Warriors thankfully takes it a tiny step past his.

I have theories on rankings vs results, but I have no time to do full on analysis.

Iif I ever had time to compile the numbers, they would incorporate regional and positional tags for these recruits.

I would like to see how the odds vary from region to region and by position. I have theories on what the data might show.

Maybe in the summer I'll start on it.
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Re: Updated Scout.com Recruiting Rankings

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:53 pm

So as of now it looks like no Story, no Walker and no Jennings. Meh.
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Re: Updated Scout.com Recruiting Rankings

Unread postby jclvd_23 » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:54 am

I'm not losing hope in Walker just yet, even though things are pointing to USC. I'm still thinking this will be like Marcus Hall and his "infatuation" with Miami a couple of years ago.

Looks like we won't have to wait long to find out, he's supposed to be announcing tonight per this premium article on ESPN. http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/blog?nam ... id=6076284
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Re: Updated Scout.com Recruiting Rankings

Unread postby Mr. X » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:22 pm

Walker is playing the game IMO. He's the "man" of the house and has a little sister at home. I'm not buying him going out to Cali. Grant is pretty much a done deal too which is fantastic.
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Re: Updated Scout.com Recruiting Rankings

Unread postby danwismar » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:21 pm

Walker told some people the other day he was going to USC, possibly with fellow-Tarblooder Shane Wynn....and none of the recruiting analysts believed him.

Tonight it looks like that's exactly what he'll be doing tomorrow morning on signing day. It's a big loss for Tressel, especially for a Glenville kid, who everyone thought was just doing the usual Glenville shuffle...taking the visits, maintaining the suspense, and eventually going down I-71 to Columbus.

I read what the experts were saying, and called him a "mortal lock" for OSU.

As Bill Greene said tonight...sometimes you swing and miss.
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Re: Updated Scout.com Recruiting Rankings

Unread postby peeker643 » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:08 pm

danwismar wrote:Walker told some people the other day he was going to USC, possibly with fellow-Tarblooder Shane Wynn....and none of the recruiting analysts believed him.

Tonight it looks like that's exactly what he'll be doing tomorrow morning on signing day. It's a big loss for Tressel, especially for a Glenville kid, who everyone thought was just doing the usual Glenville shuffle...taking the visits, maintaining the suspense, and eventually going down I-71 to Columbus.

I read what the experts were saying, and called him a "mortal lock" for OSU.

As Bill Greene said tonight...sometimes you swing and miss.


What does a dude like that see in a cat like Kiffin or is it really almost much more a position coach and recruiter that gets him with a pen in his hand. Because when I see Lane Kiffin's face all i can think of is punching it unless I'm kicking it. That dude is six tones of shady and he's never won dick.

I don't get it. And look, I understand palm trees and southern california girls. But there are dozens of programs with good weather, great looking girls and who are without Lane Kiffin and NCAA sanctions out there.

That place is just toxic at this point all the way around (except the weather and chicks thing).
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Re: Updated Scout.com Recruiting Rankings

Unread postby jb » Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:41 am

The USC South Central hood remind him of home, except with different style houses and palm trees?

Oh my god they shot Ricky! RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIICKYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!

Great news on C Grant. They really need that quality of LBer back in the program.
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Re: Updated Scout.com Recruiting Rankings

Unread postby danwismar » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:33 pm

The above link to Scout's rankings has been updated today (Wed) and has Iowa sneaking in at #25, with Nebraska at #23.
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Re: Updated Scout.com Recruiting Rankings

Unread postby peeker643 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:37 pm

jb wrote:The USC South Central hood remind him of home, except with different style houses and palm trees?

Oh my god they shot Ricky! RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIICKYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!

Great news on C Grant. They really need that quality of LBer back in the program.


I thought C Grant knocked down the Dorsey pass on the goal line years ago for the title?

Dudes, I'm watching this shit on ESPN while I work and it's simply disgusting. Now, Randy Shannon is a better analyst than coach but Urban Meyer is stiffer than a honeymoon prick.

This is such maturbatory television for ESPN and these 17 yr old kids that I'm both sickened and unable to not watch.

Clemson getting some serious LB help today (prospects anyway)
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Unread postby jb » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:59 pm

This is such maturbatory television for ESPN and these 17 yr old kids that I'm both sickened and unable to not watch.



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Re: Updated Scout.com Recruiting Rankings

Unread postby peeker643 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:01 pm

jb wrote:
This is such maturbatory television for ESPN and these 17 yr old kids that I'm both sickened and unable to not watch.



Today is a microcasm everything that's wrong with America.



It's pretty damn close to that man. That Under Armour Game or whatever is a close second.

Hard to see where these kids get an inflated self-worth and a sense of entitlement ;-) ;) :wink:
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Re: Updated Scout.com Recruiting Rankings

Unread postby jb » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:04 pm

peeker643 wrote:
jb wrote:
This is such maturbatory television for ESPN and these 17 yr old kids that I'm both sickened and unable to not watch.



Today is a microcasm everything that's wrong with America.



It's pretty damn close to that man. That Under Armour Game or whatever is a close second.

Hard to see where these kids get an inflated self-worth and a sense of entitlement ;-) ;) :wink:



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Re: Updated Scout.com Recruiting Rankings

Unread postby Ziner » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:05 pm

Jim Gray interview any of them on their choices?
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Re: Updated Scout.com Recruiting Rankings

Unread postby jb » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:34 pm

Ziner wrote:Jim Gray interview any of them on their choices?



No. He couldn't get past the Mooney coaches.
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Re: Updated Scout.com Recruiting Rankings

Unread postby peeker643 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:41 pm

A new level of ridiculous has been reached.

Isaiah Crowley just brought out a bulldog puppy to announce his GA commitment.
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Re: Updated Scout.com Recruiting Rankings

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:44 pm

peeker643 wrote:A new level of ridiculous has been reached.

Isaiah Crowley just brought out a bulldog puppy to announce his GA commitment.



o rlly?

what a dildo. When i finally get recruited i'm just gonna bring a whole Buckeye tree.... roots and all.
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Re: Updated Scout.com Recruiting Rankings

Unread postby noles1 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:37 pm

Agree on the somewhat pathetic spectacle this has become. Still if you look at the history, those that Top 10 year over year are typically in the hunt. Still have to develop the kids and hope you hit paydirt with the Cam Newton's of the world.

That said, the winners today were Auburn, Georgia and Clemson clearly.

FSU, USC and OSU held their position but also lost some expected. (Steward & Walker respectively)

Bama had a difficult day today, along with LSU. Both felt really good about where they were headed and now Bama could use the boost in the arm of Clowney. Although there are some whisperings that he might be backing into Clemson to complete a huge close for them.
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Re: Updated Scout.com Recruiting Rankings

Unread postby peeker643 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:17 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
peeker643 wrote:A new level of ridiculous has been reached.

Isaiah Crowley just brought out a bulldog puppy to announce his GA commitment.



o rlly?

what a dildo. When i finally get recruited i'm just gonna bring a whole Buckeye tree.... roots and all.



Excellent. There will be a better chance of something falling on you. I wish a Buckeye was really a pit viper. That'd be cool to see you show up with that.

:lmfao:

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Re: Updated Scout.com Recruiting Rankings

Unread postby peeker643 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:56 pm

Chris Peterson, on ESPN right now, just lamented there's no early signing period because the recruiting process "isn't as clean as it used to be."

Holy shit.

They must just pull up to recruits homes with the whores actually carrying the bags of money in cars they just leave there.
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Unread postby bucknutz94 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:14 pm

peeker643 wrote:Chris Peterson, on ESPN right now, just lamented there's no early signing period because the recruiting process "isn't as clean as it used to be."

Holy shit.

They must just pull up to recruits homes with the whores actually carrying the bags of money in cars they just leave there.


Any changes will need to be driven by coaches like Peterson and those that can't/won't try to compete with the SEC's shady ways. Just look at how many kids flip flopped between Bama and Auburn today. I can just imagine boosters pulling up to these kids' houses with bags of cash.

On a side not I watched waaay too much ESPNU today. I feel dirty after watching them blow the SEC all day.
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Re: Updated Scout.com Recruiting Rankings

Unread postby peeker643 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:19 pm

bucknutz94 wrote:
peeker643 wrote:Chris Peterson, on ESPN right now, just lamented there's no early signing period because the recruiting process "isn't as clean as it used to be."

Holy shit.

They must just pull up to recruits homes with the whores actually carrying the bags of money in cars they just leave there.


Any changes will need to be driven by coaches like Peterson and those that can't/won't try to compete with the SEC's shady ways. Just look at how many kids flip flopped between Bama and Auburn today. I can just imagine boosters pulling up to these kids' houses with bags of cash.

On a side not I watched waaay too much ESPNU today. I feel dirty after watching them blow the SEC all day.


Me too. Had it on wire to wire while I worked.

The host did a full ten hour shift which was impressive. Not impressive enough for me to remember his name though.
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Re: Updated Scout.com Recruiting Rankings

Unread postby bucknutz94 » Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:28 pm

Lowel Lindo or something like that. All I know is he has the narrowist shoulders I've ever seen. Dude can't weigh 140#.
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Re: Updated Scout.com Recruiting Rankings

Unread postby jb » Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:34 am

bucknutz94 wrote:
peeker643 wrote:Chris Peterson, on ESPN right now, just lamented there's no early signing period because the recruiting process "isn't as clean as it used to be."

Holy shit.

They must just pull up to recruits homes with the whores actually carrying the bags of money in cars they just leave there.


Any changes will need to be driven by coaches like Peterson and those that can't/won't try to compete with the SEC's shady ways. Just look at how many kids flip flopped between Bama and Auburn today. I can just imagine boosters pulling up to these kids' houses with bags of cash.

On a side not I watched waaay too much ESPNU today. I feel dirty after watching them blow the SEC all day.



And here I thought they just did drive by chucks, like paper boys?

And the mediot coverage tends to lend credence to Gnati's theory.
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Re: Updated Scout.com Recruiting Rankings

Unread postby leadpipe » Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:31 am

bucknutz94 wrote:
peeker643 wrote:Chris Peterson, on ESPN right now, just lamented there's no early signing period because the recruiting process "isn't as clean as it used to be."

Holy shit.

They must just pull up to recruits homes with the whores actually carrying the bags of money in cars they just leave there.


Any changes will need to be driven by coaches like Peterson and those that can't/won't try to compete with the SEC's shady ways. Just look at how many kids flip flopped between Bama and Auburn today. I can just imagine boosters pulling up to these kids' houses with bags of cash.

On a side not I watched waaay too much ESPNU today. I feel dirty after watching them blow the SEC all day.


The SEC's ways are not much more shady then the rest of the country. Just under a bigger spotlight because it's been the best conference for years.

For example, Phil Knight..errr.....Oregon stealing away Thomas from USC.

I'd like to predict that the University of Maryland's athletic programs will start to pull big time recruits in the near future, once the head of UnderArmour starts sinking his millions into that university.

It'll be all according to the "rules" though, so it should be fair.
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