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Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby mattvan1 » Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:19 pm

As much as I would like to crow about power football bitch slapping the Big 12, not sure how well the rest of the conference fares against the SEC/TCU.

But, so far so good.
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Re: Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby pup » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:23 am

Hey French XII,

Tell me how my ass tastes.

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Re: Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby mattvan1 » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:33 am

^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Not afriad to crow
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Re: Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby JoJo White » Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:23 pm

pup wrote:Hey French XII,

Tell me how my ass tastes.

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lololololol...getting over once every 5 years or so is certainly reason for little brother to celebrate.
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Re: Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill » Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:31 pm

I think conference smack is silly but, just to be one of the guys, the Big 10 is 29-32 vs the Pac 10 in the Rose Bowl

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Re: Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby mattvan1 » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:07 pm

JoJo White wrote:
pup wrote:Hey French XII,

Tell me how my ass tastes.

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lololololol...getting over once every 5 years or so is certainly reason for little brother to celebrate.


The Big 12 was "conceived" in 1996, and since then, as near as I can figure, the series is tied at 11-11 in all head to head bowl games. In head to head BCS games, the conferences are also split, this time at 2-2. The conference record in in all BCS games is:

Big 10 10 -11
Big 12 7-10

Kinda like the two bastard step kids arguing over the SEC leftovers.
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Re: Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby furls » Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:59 am

I am doing very well on my bowl pools based on a few assumptions:

-B10 is much better than people think
-B12 is not
-Big East and ACC are nearly equally as crappy with the ACC slightly>ACC.
-As usual the service academies are underrated.
-SEC is down but not bad, use the coaching match ups to determine the winners here
-Stanford and Oregon are good the rest of the PAC-10 is about as good as the rest of the Big-12.

If I were to rank them right now I would say:

1a) SEC
1b) Big Ten
3) PAC 10
4) Big 12
5) ACC
6) MWC
7) WAC
8) Service Academies
9) Big East
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Re: Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby FUDU » Fri Dec 31, 2010 1:42 pm

IMO Wiscy has a chance to show people they are probably the hardest team to beat on any given day.
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Re: Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby furls » Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:11 pm

Towards the end of the season, Wisco looked like the best team in the country to me. I am not sure that anyone can match up with that running attack and they have a nice defense too. They have looked as good as anyone late this year.
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Re: Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby furls » Sat Jan 01, 2011 10:30 am

I guess I was wrong on the SEC and it destroyed nearly all of my bowl pools. I now have to rethink all of my later choices. I have a feeling that the SEC may be down more than I thought, bear with me a second.

-Florida has not been good.
-USC (East) was supposed to be some of the quality depth in the conference, a viable #3 or 4 and they looked like crap against FSU.
-GA couldn't beat a very pedestrian UCF team, they just couldn't move the ball.
-Tennessee was beaten in one of the most competitive bowl games I have seen recently by a depleted UNC team.
-LSU has been suspect all year (I have never been a believer in the Tigers this year, not since the early season UNC game).

How down is the SEC? We shall see today. This year's edition of the Big Ten is about as good as any I can remember in the last 8-10 years.

scUM vs. MSU
MSU vs. Bama
PSU vs. FL
OSU vs. Ark

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Re: Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby motherscratcher » Sat Jan 01, 2011 12:17 pm

Hey Furls, how do you think the impending departure of Urban will affect UF in this bowl?
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Re: Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby skatingtripods » Sat Jan 01, 2011 12:48 pm

motherscratcher wrote:Hey Furls, how do you think the impending departure of Urban will affect UF in this bowl?


Some Vegas wiseguys think that the Florida players view Meyer leaving as him abandoning the team. They're backing Penn St., and that's evident because the line has moved down this morning.

I think it's a pretty reasonable answer. I also think that, with all the Charlie Weis talk, they're worried about their roles because they aren't really built to run a Charlie Weis offense with John Brantley. Plenty of distractions. If Penn St. takes care of the football, they could win this game.

Edit: I know the question wasn't to me, but I chimed in anyway.
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Re: Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby Bayou Tribe » Sat Jan 01, 2011 3:27 pm

Michigan / Miss State is looking like a nice game so far. If Robinson can continue to throw the ball like he is so far it's going to be tight all day. Florida/Penn St also started sloppy but it's straightening out. Penn State can gain alot of momentum if they can put points up here before half.

Bama/Michigan State was over when they announced it on the selection show. If Saban wasn't so conservative this thing could get real ugly.
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Re: Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill » Sat Jan 01, 2011 3:52 pm

Colt to Julio makes my mouth water

I try so hard to hate JoePa but JFC do I hope I am as spry if I live to be that age

Love ya Joe....please win today and retire

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Unread postby skatingtripods » Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:03 pm

Alabama is a machine.

Good to see Greg Robinson not disappointing in the Gator Bowl.
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Re: Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby Bayou Tribe » Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:12 pm

Yeah, you'd figure it was a matter of time before Michigan's offense would just say fuck it. Surprised it didn't happen a long time ago.

And yeah, Saban is balls-deep in Michigan St right now. Didn't think it would be that bad.
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Re: Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby fairvis » Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:24 pm

Northwestern's making a game of it... ESPNU if you have it. Was down 31-9, now only down 45-38.
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Re: Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby skatingtripods » Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:26 pm

fairvis wrote:Northwestern's making a game of it... ESPNU if you have it. Was down 31-9, now only down 45-38.


Because Tommy Tuberville's a fucking dumbass. Onside kicks up 21. NW scores easily and they get right back in it.
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Re: Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby FUDU » Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:43 pm

How is Penn State able to keep up with that speed? I can hardly tell who they are playing the guys run so fast.

I agree Ron, hope Joe wins today and hangs em up.

...and is Georgia the most disappointing SEC program or what, I mean if one was a fan of theirs, GD are they over rated, perpetually.
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Re: Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby Bayou Tribe » Sat Jan 01, 2011 5:15 pm

FUDU wrote:and is Georgia the most disappointing SEC program or what, I mean if one was a fan of theirs, GD are they over rated, perpetually.




Has to be. Year in and year out, they are just a team built for mediocrity.

Really the Eastern Division overall has been lackluster this year and it's manifesting itself in bowl games. Should have seen this coming with Florida also. Penn State has been good in bowl games for the past 5 or 6 years and Florida has been a house divided between younger and older players with Urban announcing his "retirement".
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Re: Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby furls » Sat Jan 01, 2011 5:19 pm

hmmm.... eating crow isn't that bad.
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Re: Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby Bayou Tribe » Sat Jan 01, 2011 5:23 pm

furls wrote:hmmm.... eating crow isn't that bad.



Still time on the clock. LSU should beat a&m, but you can't ever be positive when you roll into gameday without a real QB, Arkansas/Ohio St and Auburn/Oregon are tossups, and the Florida game is far from over. Huge variance with how this could play out for the SEC.
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Unread postby furls » Sat Jan 01, 2011 5:28 pm

It is hard to get a take on how the Meyer quitting is affecting the Gators. They have been so "Jekyl and Hyde" from play to play this year that it is hard to tell if they are playing up or down as the norm changes with every play.

I knew MSU had no shot. They don't have the horses to play with 'Bama. Wisco vs. 'Bama would have been interesting.

scUM is fucking terrible just in case you forgot. We all knew that they don't play ANY D and it was just proven yet again that DickRods tricky "OMFG SPREAD PWNS U" offense doesn't work against good teams.

NW could've won that game (pbly would have) with their starting QB.

PSU can never be discounted in a bowl game.
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Re: Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill » Sat Jan 01, 2011 5:31 pm

FUDU wrote:How is Penn State able to keep up with that speed? I can hardly tell who they are playing the guys run so fast.

I agree Ron, hope Joe wins today and hangs em up.



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Re: Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby BruceK » Sat Jan 01, 2011 5:36 pm

I'd say Harbaugh can back the Brinks truck up to the door in Ann Arbor and say "Fill 'er up"
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Re: Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby skatingtripods » Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:15 pm

Love Wisconsin punching TCU in the mouth right out of the gate. Making a statement.
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Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill » Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:27 pm

Personally I'm not wrapped up about Wisky making the Big 10 look good.

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Unread postby skatingtripods » Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:29 pm

Wisconsin's secondary is brutal so far.
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Unread postby Erie Warrior » Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:44 pm

furls wrote:
PSU can never be discounted in a bowl game.


Awful play calling. Both Paterno's should be fired. 3rd and 3, 4 down territory, Royster is running like a man, and the dumb asses throw. With ol Pat MyGroin having a poor day behind center.

Run on 3rd and 4th (if necessary), then go to the PA pass. The announcers were talking about McGloin not being offered a scholly to a D1 school, now we see why.
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Re: Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby motherscratcher » Sat Jan 01, 2011 6:58 pm

Erie Warrior wrote:
furls wrote:
PSU can never be discounted in a bowl game.


Awful play calling. Both Paterno's should be fired. 3rd and 3, 4 down territory, Royster is running like a man, and the dumb asses throw. With ol Pat MyGroin having a poor day behind center.

Run on 3rd and 4th (if necessary), then go to the PA pass. The announcers were talking about McGloin not being offered a scholly to a D1 school, now we see why.

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Re: Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby FUDU » Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:05 pm

It sounds crazy, but even with Wiscy down 14-10 after missing the FG it feels like TCU is the team lucky to be in this. Biggest play of the game so far is the first pass of the game for the Badgers that was dropped inside the 8 of TCU.

If Wiscy stays the course, with their basic plan of using the huge Oline, they just might wind up pulling away and winning by double digits.
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Re: Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby FUDU » Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:09 pm

Fire Marshall Bill wrote:Personally I'm not wrapped up about Wisky making the Big 10 look good.

I'm rooting for TCU
You're an anti-dentite.
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Unread postby FUDU » Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:18 pm

Fire Marshall Bill wrote:Kirk Herbstreit has turned into a goofball fuking idiot
He was right, as usual, and is hands down the best college football analyst.
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Unread postby skatingtripods » Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:23 pm

FUDU wrote:He was right, as usual, and is hands down the best college football analyst.


This.
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Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill » Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:31 pm

FUDU wrote:
Fire Marshall Bill wrote:Kirk Herbstreit has turned into a goofball fuking idiot
He was right, as usual, and is hands down the best college football analyst.


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Unread postby skatingtripods » Sat Jan 01, 2011 7:51 pm

Christ Wisconsin's secondary is killing them. Too much cushion, bad tackling. Getting burned. TCU should be up more.
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Unread postby Bayou Tribe » Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:04 pm

BruceK wrote:I'd say Harbaugh can back the Brinks truck up to the door in Ann Arbor and say "Fill 'er up"



They may be competing with the 49'ers in that regard, which will be interesting. He wants to coach in the NFL anyways, and the 49'ers gig in the NFC West is almost perfect.
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Unread postby FUDU » Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:06 pm

In a rare occurrence Herbie was off in saying TCU was blowing up the running game of the Badgers. Far from it, one focal ball carrier has 19 carries for over a 100 in 35 minutes of play, the Badgers as a team have 150 yards on the ground. Wiscy's problem is giving up 3rd downs and giving up too many 10 yard passes on D, if they turn that around they are in total control.
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Unread postby skatingtripods » Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:12 pm

As much as I've harped on the secondary, Wisconsin's D coordinator is getting severely outcoached. TCU's coordinator might be getting himself a head coaching job tonight. Unless Paterson calls the plays.
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Unread postby FUDU » Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:14 pm

skatingtripods wrote:As much as I've harped on the secondary, Wisconsin's D coordinator is getting severely outcoached. TCU's coordinator might be getting himself a head coaching job tonight. Unless Paterson calls the plays.
Agreed, he is getting schooled tonight. Way too few Badgers in the picture when Frogs catch passes.
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Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill » Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:20 pm

C'mon...intellectual honesty dictates you admit that Wisky is getting beat by a better team
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Unread postby skatingtripods » Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:22 pm

Fire Marshall Bill wrote:C'mon...intellectual honesty dictates you admit that Wisky is getting beat by a better team


In no way do I think TCU is a better team. Today they are. Tomorrow they might not be.

I think TCU's better prepared and their coaching staff is taking Wisky's to the woodshed.

IMO, these teams are very very even.
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Re: Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby FUDU » Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:24 pm

Fire Marshall Bill wrote:C'mon...intellectual honesty dictates you admit that Wisky is getting beat by a better team
They are getting beat, no doubt, but it doesn't make much sense in that Wiscy is doing everything to their strength, and has a huge advantage in TOP, yet is just not getting anything out of it. Let's face it TCU hasn't done anything special what so ever really.

60 minutes is what it takes though, right now, Wiscy's biggest hope is that they are wearing TCU down and it will bear fruit in the 4th.

Wiscy's D is the disappointment tonight.
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Re: Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby skatingtripods » Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:29 pm

What's with all this soft coverage? I wonder what Dalton is on throws of 25+ this year. He's picking them apart underneath. Start playing bump & run and let the safeties spy.
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Re: Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby FUDU » Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:39 pm

IMO what this game proves regardless of the outcome isn't so much the equality of a TCU or the few non AQs but the parity in the ranks of college coaching. There are a lot of very good to great game day coaches that can utilize their talents well enough or better than the opposing coaches of the giant programs in this David v Goliath context of college match ups the past few years.

Not that these mid level or smaller programs do not have talent, but they usually lack enough of it that the HC's have needed to go different routes in figuring out how to create a make up for their teams, b/c they don't have the base talent to sit back with a clip board and just allow their kids to block and run in the traditional straight forward fashion the world of college ball has become so used to.
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Re: Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby FUDU » Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:46 pm

IINM the Badgers have gained less than 20 yards on the ground this half, and have really kind of given up on that running game, with their main ball carrier averaging 7ypc and only down 8 you have to wonder why they've gone this route.
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Unread postby skatingtripods » Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:48 pm

FUDU wrote:IINM the Badgers have gained less than 20 yards on the ground this half, and have really kind of given up on that running game, with their main ball carrier averaging 7ypc and only down 8 you have to wonder why they've gone this route.


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Re: Big 10 Bowl Games

Unread postby FUDU » Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:52 pm

Maybe panic, but damn if they didn't just prove my point (not trying to pat my back), I mean seriously they have been able to get yards all night even right up the gut. I'm starting to wonder if TSV didn't take a part time job with Wiscy for this game.
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Unread postby FUDU » Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:58 pm

Time becoming a big factor seeing as they need 8, so if they don't get the 2pc they are screwed most likely, not urgent enough IMO in getting this thing in the end zone.
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