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by danwismar » Sun May 30, 2010 1:39 pm
by furls » Sun May 30, 2010 7:28 pm
by JCoz » Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:22 am
furls wrote:I had read/heard that the Bucks have strong shot at Vaughters too. I was a little surprised to see that Greene is so confident that Vaughters is on his way to Stanford. The fact that he is reporting a time table makes it seem pretty solid. I guess a class of DePriest and Vaughters would be too ridiculous. I like both better than Hicks, I see them as Dorian Bell types.
by JCoz » Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:12 am
by JCoz » Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:07 pm
by jb » Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:56 pm
by JCoz » Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:00 pm
jb wrote:Sweet. Milla time in da hizzy.Let the dynasty continue.Suck it Dick Rod
by tired » Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:43 pm
by JCoz » Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:51 pm
tired wrote:Anyone think Cardale Jones gets an offer ? I've read where he has grade issue's and is a Penn. St. lean.
by jb » Tue Jun 01, 2010 2:59 pm
by JCoz » Tue Jun 01, 2010 3:21 pm
jb wrote:tired wrote:Anyone think Cardale Jones gets an offer ? I've read where he has grade issue's and is a Penn. St. lean.Grades or ACTs?
by jb » Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:16 am
JCoz wrote:jb wrote:tired wrote:Anyone think Cardale Jones gets an offer ? I've read where he has grade issue's and is a Penn. St. lean.Grades or ACTs?ACT but we are talking about a junior grade. How common has it been that Juniors need to have a college qualifying ACT score?The recruiting game is really moving faster and faster, this is something caught in between right now.Not having a qualifying ACT at this point is not a huge point of concern IMO.
by peeker643 » Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:22 am
jb wrote:JCoz wrote:jb wrote:tired wrote:Anyone think Cardale Jones gets an offer ? I've read where he has grade issue's and is a Penn. St. lean.Grades or ACTs?ACT but we are talking about a junior grade. How common has it been that Juniors need to have a college qualifying ACT score?The recruiting game is really moving faster and faster, this is something caught in between right now.Not having a qualifying ACT at this point is not a huge point of concern IMO.Can easliy be tutored up if he's not a dooshbag.Were it bad grades at freaking Glenville? I'd have him pencilled in for Marshall.
by furls » Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:42 am
by JCoz » Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:29 pm
furls wrote:Cardale does NOT get an offer this year. Miller will commit to OSU on Thursday and that will end Jones' shot at an offer. The Bucks put all their eggs in the miller basket 2 years ago and are sticking with it. The team is really not interested in a second scholarship QB this year as Miller gives them the depth they need. I expect (barring a ridiculous season) that Pryor will come back for his senior season in 2011; he just isn't there yet as a passer and Kenny Guiton has really come on, to the point that I think there will be some very serious competition between him and Miller in 2012. Add Taylor Graham into the mix and you can see how crowded it really is. The below average 2010 class has opened a lot of holes that need to be filled in this talent rich 2011 class, so I don't really think the Bucks even have the schollie to offer. There are needs in the defensive backfield at least 2 safeties and CBs (high bust rate), they could use 1-2 LBs (thinking ahead to 2013-2014), 2 TEs, 5+ OL (based on only getting 1 in 2010), they need 2+ DEs, 2DTs, and they still haven't found a returner (wynn?). Taking a second QB really doesn't make a lot of sense. Now that said, I am praying that Cardale Jones blows up and ends up at USC or Texas or some other major program outside of the B10. I really don't want to play a kid that is that talented (and scorned).
by danwismar » Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:45 pm
by pup » Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:02 pm
by JCoz » Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:49 pm
pup wrote:Someone hook me up. I thought Miller was a top 5 player nationally. Is he just a top 5 QB? And why on Rivals list does it seem to be such a stinker year for QB's? Any chance Miller is simply at the top of a marginal field and not really Big Man on Campus material?Thanks in advance.
by Cerebral_DownTime » Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:51 pm
by JCoz » Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:53 pm
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Braxton Miller's arm better than Troy Smith's?
by furls » Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:09 pm
by pup » Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:23 pm
by danwismar » Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:43 pm
by mattvan1 » Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:17 pm
furls wrote: There are several things at play in early rankings. Generally, Rivals/Scout/ESPN rankings are based on team interest in a guy (who has offered him), whether or not he is committed (remember they are trying to sell premium subscriptions to people that are interested in recruiting rumors), camps and highlight films. Very little of their assessments/rankings come from any real tangible analysis. Highlight films show you exactly what you would expect, a guys best plays in which he is faster and stronger than everyone else, but what about the rest of the plays? Is he a high motor guy? Does he gamble to much? Is he a guy that runs East-West for losses and occassionally breaks the 72 yarder for the highlight film? How good is the competition?
by jclvd_23 » Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:58 pm
by furls » Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:41 pm
by JCoz » Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:46 pm
by furls » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:08 pm
by JCoz » Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:25 pm
furls wrote:Grant is by far the best athlete in the state. I like Michael Bennett a little better just because of the effect of dominant D-Linemen and the higher bust rate on DBs. Don't get me wrong, Grant definitely could be the next Gamble/Jenkins lockdown CB, and those guys can have a serious effect on a game, but dominant D-linemen can just take over games (Suh, or the Gators in 06, etc.). I really think this 11 class is going to be something special. I loved the 08 class, I thought the 09 class was a solid sequel, but the 11 class is lining up to be extraordinary. FWIW, don't count on it being #1 (or even top 5) because it is chocked full of OH players and they don't tend to be ranked as high.
by furls » Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:59 pm
by JCoz » Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:03 pm
furls wrote:Miller and Hayes are excellent players and they are not getting the play they should because they committed so early.
by furls » Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:07 am
by JCoz » Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:02 am
furls wrote:It won't change the fact that they are committed. Committed kids just aren't that interesting to the services because people don't buy premium subscriptions to see how Miller and Hayes' senior years are going. They buy them to figure out what hat Latwan Anderson will pick up at the Under Armour game and to keep up with the latest rumors and drama. It is not in Rivals' best interest to start pushing long and solidly committed kids up the rankings, if anything the opposite is true; Rivals, scout and ESPN tend to forget about kids that are committed regardless of their performance.
by furls » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:33 pm
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