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by motherscratcher » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:11 am
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Pryor's stiff #### is amazing.
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:And now I have to smoke a victory ####.
by FUDU » Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:30 am
by dmiles » Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:40 am
by StewieG » Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:24 am
by tired » Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:35 am
FUDU wrote:I thought I remember hearing a rumor last week that TSV was going to have no part of LeBron being on the sidelines? (which I thought was the right thing for TSV to do)
by tired » Sun Sep 12, 2010 2:40 am
StewieG wrote:Got back from the game not too long ago. Some thoughs:- Ohio Stadium is amazing. It's my second trip there, and my first "Big Game". The place was LOUD. Much louder than the first time I was there. The crowd really showed up today. The U represented well...they had a section in the lower northeast section of the stadium, and a section just above it completely orange and green, plus some scattered throughout the stadium. I loved how the stadium crew kept bringing up old national championship game memories though. They did it the entire first half...trivia, they brought in Will Smith for a nice ovation, all sorts of stuff.- Chekwa had a GREAT game. Harris didn't look to his side of the field often, and when he did Chekwa picked it off. The non-call on what probably should have been PI in the end zone though looked suspect to us in the stands. We thought maybe they ruled the ball uncatchable, or that maybe it had hit him before he hit the receiver. He certainly didn't try to make a play on the ball though. Still, mad props to him today.- Saine was awful. Boom wasn't great, but he got the job done. I just feel like we're biding our time til Berry gets in there. He really has a knack for making people whiff.- Heyward and Simon were getting held all game. They were beasts, but their stats won't show it.- Torrence got picked on all game. Harris was really looking to throw to that side of the field.- With the exception of when we played vanilla defense in the 4th and special teams, OSU dominated the game in just about every way, including the mental part. You could see Miami getting frustrated, which led to a string of dumb false-start penalties. It killed drives and forced Harris to make risky throws, which we of course took advantage of.- Good lord. The lanes on the punt return and kick return for TD's were huge. Either our guys weren't getting to their spots, or they were and were simply manhandled out of them. Neither way bodes well. At some point special teams will cost us a game unless it gets addressed big time.
by SoulDawg74 » Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:33 am
dmiles wrote:I am fine with Saine on the wheel route, and it's true if there is a pretty wide hole he explodes through it better than Boom and has a better shot of taking a long run to the house. You have give some carries to Saine, though I like him better as a receiver... if nothing else to keep the defense honest and as a guy who stretches the field he needs to play. I just think you keep the carries down maybe 10 or under?
by peeker643 » Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:47 am
by JCoz » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:11 pm
JCoz wrote:Ok so I did ok last week, lets see if I can come close in this one.This one is infinitley harder to predict, but here goes....OSU 31-23 Actual 36-24Pryor - 230 passing 2TD's 1INT, 65 yds rushing and 1TD Actual - 233 passing, 1 TD 0 picks, 110 yards rushing 1tdSaine and Boom - 115yds, 1TD, 35 yds recActual 73yds 1TD, 83yds 1td recPosey and Sanz - 110yds rec 1TDActual - 142yds rec 0TDStoney - 70yds 1TDActual 8ydsOffense puts up 400 total yards. Actual 414Defense holds them to less than 70 yds rushing. Actual 121Defense holds them to less than 300 total yards. Actual 352OSU wins TO's - 2-1 (Willaims and Hines)Actual 4-0 (Williams, Heyward, Chekwa)OSU O player of game - Pryor CorrectOSU D player of game - The Dline, particularly in the middle Though this mightbe Chekwa, the inside Dline was very good in this gameThats what I am going with. Score in my mind is closer than the game will show.
by tired » Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:04 pm
by danwismar » Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:38 pm
by JCoz » Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:12 pm
by hermanfontenot » Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:20 pm
by JCoz » Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:34 pm
hermanfontenot wrote:In the last four quote-unquote "big" non-conference games (2009 Fiesta Bowl, 2009 vs. USC, 2010 Rose Bowl & last Saturday vs. Miami), the Buckeyes have scored eight touchdowns to 14 field goals (seven of those from inside the opponents' ten-yard line.)This team HAS to finish more drives with touchdowns instead of field goals.
by hermanfontenot » Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:47 pm
JCoz wrote:For inside the ten, I don't know they need to develop some kind of specific package for that, and Pryor needs to understand that his best weapon there is his legs + the THREAT of passing. He's too big and fast to not be looking to take advantage on the ground.
by JCoz » Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:52 pm
hermanfontenot wrote:JCoz wrote:For inside the ten, I don't know they need to develop some kind of specific package for that, and Pryor needs to understand that his best weapon there is his legs + the THREAT of passing. He's too big and fast to not be looking to take advantage on the ground.I think part of the problem is the fact that we don't have that MoC/Beanie-type bell-cow runner who we can lean on in the red zone. Pryor, for all his size, speed and strength, is not that guy. He spends too much time running laterally. It is nitpicking somewhat, considering we just beat the 12th ranked team in the country easily, but my expectations for this team are through the roof. The Buckeyes have every opportunity to make this a vintage kind of season. I'd hate to see the opportunity lost because they don't finish drives well enough.
by danwismar » Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:20 pm
by OldDawg » Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:20 pm
by JCoz » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:19 pm
OldDawg wrote:I have not read this whole thread, so apologies. I just kept hearing in the preseason about how awesome our run game was gonna be, consequently freeing up TP and the passing game. I was disappointed in our inability to play Tressel ball seemingly at all and move the ball on the ground with the lead. Smash mouth running game? Muscle vs Speed. We depended solely on the legs of TP. That is not Tressel ball. Seems 'Bama has themselves a running game even without their Heisman back.
by JCoz » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:22 pm
wiz1001 wrote:I guess I'm not as concerned about TP threading the needle from down close as Coz is. I love the quick flip out to Boren in the flat that they tried and missed on, for example. He has also shown the ability to hit quick slants to Dane or Posey inside the 10-yard line. The rollout and drag pattern to Stoney was there for a TD...and not especially risky, and was a TD with a better throw from Pryor. Clearly he has had MUCH better days with his accuracy on short-to-intermediate throws...I don't think it will be an ongoing issue.I think the threat of the pass needs to be there...as long as it's low-risk, high-percentage type throws. That opens up the playbook for draws, options, etc. I'd love to see more option running in the red zone. (Of course, they did do it on the Herron TD from the 4.)With the possible exception of Iowa, no other team on the schedule will be playing as tight in coverage as this Miami team did. They went with some zone early, but quickly moved to a tight man to man, apparently unconcerned about the big play (which only burned them once) It turned out to be a good strategy on balance, I thought, especially since they were putting pressure on TP. The windows for TP to throw into were pretty tight. That said, there were way too many dumb and/or inaccurate passes in the game by TP. The down side of the strategy was getting toasted by Pryor on running plays when the pass play broke down....the same dilemma every single team we face will have to deal with.I think Miami will crush most teams on their schedule, and I can see them winning ten games, counting a bowl game. (10-3....maybe better)I was very glad to see Pryor get out of this game without injury. I had real concerns about the Canes cheap-shotting him (which I do think they did on a couple late hits) as some sort of Willis McGahee revenge deal. There was a lot of talk about this pre-game on Miami message boards. ("how confident are the Buckeyes in their backup QB?" -type of stuff...not from players of course, but disturbing talk nonetheless.)Agree with Herm that the Bucks have lots of good backs but no great ones. I have mixed feelings after rewatching the game about whether the problem with the run-blocking was more predictable play-calling once JT got the double-digit lead, and a determination by Miami to shut down the run game at all costs...(which also means OSU had not made them respect the downfield passing near enough)or if it was just the OSU O-linemen getting handled by what was a very good Miami D-line.Some of both I guess. Agree with Coz that the OSU tackles played very well. Bailey was a force early in the game stuffing a couple of running plays, but I don't think he laid a hand on Pryor in the backfield...seemed like most of the time he was working against Shugarts...but on the other side, I don't think I heard Olivier Vernon's name called more than once all day long working against Mike Adams. For all the talk about the Hurricane pass rush, Pryor was sacked once for a six yard loss....which (I think) was on a designed run play where he got tackled for a loss going to the sidelines.
by danwismar » Tue Sep 14, 2010 4:04 pm
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