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by tired » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:08 pm
by British_Pharaoh » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:10 pm
. Also in the interview, James noted that he has no regrets about "The Decision" special on ESPN and added that he could even see himself playing in Cleveland again if the opportunity arose.

by tired » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:16 pm
by OldDawg » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:36 pm
“That’s what keeps me humble, because I know my background, know what my mother went through,” said James. ”I never get too high on my stardom or what I can do. My mom always says, and my friends say, ‘You’re just a very low-maintenance guy.’”
You know, because all “low-maintenance” guys require two lockers in the corner of the locker room right by the trainers, request that their friends have full-time paying jobs and travel amenities with the team, and schedule their own media requests with the networks of their choosing.

by tired » Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:39 pm
by statmasta » Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:00 pm
tired wrote:"I love our fans. Cleveland fans are awesome," he told GQ. "But I mean, even my family gets spoiled at times watching me doing things that I do, on and off the court."
Dude. Check yourself. For real.
by Triple-S » Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:03 pm
Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

by Ziner » Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:24 pm
by StewieG » Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:35 pm
"I don't think he ever cared about LeBron. My mother always told me: 'You will see the light of people when they hit adversity. You'll get a good sense of their character.' Me and my family have seen the character of that man."
by OldDawg » Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:01 pm

by motherscratcher » Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:07 pm
OldDawg wrote:I am a little tired of the "my mother always told me" crap. Like this is some tight-knit loving family.
Momma was AWOL in your life until you became her meal ticket. Momma didn't always tell you anything, cause she wasn't around.
by motherscratcher » Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:11 pm
Ziner wrote:Different day, same delusion. Yawn. Still slightly amazing he can be that out of touch with reality, growing less amazing as the days go by though.
by peeker643 » Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:27 pm
by Ziner » Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:36 pm
by Larvell Blanks » Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:40 pm
by peeker643 » Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:51 pm
Ziner wrote:Nah, it is ramped up a lot. Most people knew he always had a little d-bag in him, there is certainly no reason to pretend we should have known he was this much of a narssistic d-bag. If it had always been known the media outside of Skip Bayless would have been crushing him for years. The bs he pulled before was childs play compared to this. What was the most ridiculous/arrogant thing he did previous? Not shaking hands with the magic? Taking fake pictures on the sidelines? Stiffing a waitress on a tip (in a non-Tiger way)? Speeding? He never gave indications that he was this oblivious, I dont feel as if I should have known it was this bad.
by Ziner » Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:03 pm
by peeker643 » Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:15 pm
Ziner wrote:The stuff in high school is something a high school kid does. The stuff he pulled lately is not something a 25 y/o "man" pulls. I dont think it is crazy to be surprised at the level of it.
by Larvell Blanks » Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:19 pm
Talk a little bit about LeBron's inner circle—not just family and publicists, but the old teammates and coaches you met in Cleveland.
Well, he was surrounded by a layer of family, then a layer of old friends, and then a layer of Nike people—so Cleveland was where I really got the sense that he is possibly, really insulated from the outside world. All famous people have entourages and inner circles, but this struck me as something larger, even more protective, and harder to break through. I got the sense also that it might've been what kept him from gauging the mood in the real world as people waited for his decision. He really did seem to be at the center of an enormous group of handlers, helpers, and managers—and I'm sure that makes him feel good on a day-to-day basis, but there's a downside to that, too.
I think that's hard to know from a distance, but I do think that he draws obvious comfort from being surrounded by people who love him—and I don't see anything wrong with that. But as with anything, all that comfort comes at a cost, and I think that his fear of being alone keeps him at times from walking through the fire that we all have to walk through. Maybe sitting alone in a room and thinking might have helped him realize that an hour-long special devoted to his decision was ill advised. My suspicion from watching him surrounded by people wherever he goes is that he's not spending a lot of time alone in a room thinking through things.
by Triple-S » Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:22 pm
Larvell Blanks wrote:I'm just amazed that there's been a line drawn in the sand all this time between Cleveland and Akron and I'm just now hearing about it.
Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

by Toxicadam » Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:32 pm

by British_Pharaoh » Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:38 pm

by peeker643 » Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:39 pm
Larvell Blanks wrote:He's been so sheltered his whole life that he has no clue how anyone else thinks or feels.
by Larvell Blanks » Tue Aug 17, 2010 4:41 pm
peeker643 wrote:Ziner wrote:The stuff in high school is something a high school kid does. The stuff he pulled lately is not something a 25 y/o "man" pulls. I dont think it is crazy to be surprised at the level of it.
Disagree. The stuff he's pulled as a 25yr old is exactly the stuff a 25 yr old who was a giant a-hole at 18 and never had to grow up would pull.
It was there. From the Hummer to the remote controlled Hummer disrupting games, to the fact he gets suspended for taking free jerseys and did every single thing with the self awareness he displayed about 'The Decision'?
Fuck. The prima donna shit, Silas hating his friends, flopping to the floor and taking fifteen minutes to get off the floor when a PG glanced off him, Yankee shit at Tribe games, etc.
Call me Andy Baskin. But there's a shit load of truth to all of it when you look back. It was funny then, it was tough shit to the detractors because they were jealous.
No dude. He was a giant d-bag. Enormous. This ain't out of character. This is his lack of character.
And it was always lacking.
Not realizing it is on me.
YMMV
by YahooFanChicago » Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:06 pm
by Ziner » Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:40 pm
by waborat » Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:02 pm
Ziner wrote:You guy can keep arguing about when or if we should have known. I will wait to make up my mind until I read SouthFLASports's take on it.
by hermanfontenot » Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:18 pm
The real shame about all this is that he didn't go to the Knicks. It would have made it so much easier to watch and cheer for that all to fail. But, he will probably find success in Miami and Cleveland fans will be left eating a bag of shit.
It's pretty apparent that Lebron grew up hating Cleveland fans. Imagine the type of shit he got in school by being a Cowboys/Bulls/Yankees fan. He probably detests the whole loser mentality of the area and couldn't wait to get the hell away (once he couldn't change it).

by hermanfontenot » Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:51 pm
peeker643 wrote:Ziner wrote:Fuck. The prima donna shit, Silas hating his friends, flopping to the floor and taking fifteen minutes to get off the floor when a PG glanced off him, Yankee shit at Tribe games, etc.
Call me Andy Baskin. But there's a shit load of truth to all of it when you look back. It was funny then, it was tough shit to the detractors because they were jealous.
No dude. He was a giant d-bag. Enormous. This ain't out of character. This is his lack of character.
And it was always lacking.
Not realizing it is on me.
YMMV

by Orenthal » Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:13 pm
Toxicadam wrote:Imagine the type of shit he got in school by being a Cowboys/Bulls/Yankees fan.
by peeker643 » Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:16 pm
hermanfontenot wrote:Don't expect to see this kind of angst out of you, Peek. And IMO it's unwarranted. He was our guy, we should have had his back while he gave us any reason to. And his play on the floor gave us that reason. Just like Albert Belle.
He's the asshole, not you, not us. Just roll with it, broham.
by bucknutz94 » Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:29 pm
by leadpipe » Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:30 pm
peeker643 wrote:hermanfontenot wrote:Don't expect to see this kind of angst out of you, Peek. And IMO it's unwarranted. He was our guy, we should have had his back while he gave us any reason to. And his play on the floor gave us that reason. Just like Albert Belle.
He's the asshole, not you, not us. Just roll with it, broham.
For the defense of him on the floor I'll lean toward agreement. I still think he's at or near the most gifted athlete I've ever seen.
But being completely blind to everything else? No excuses. You had it right, others had it close. It's just not in him to be a leader. Not when it requires putting your interests behind the common goal. The guy is/was incapable of doing that. His unselfishness on the floor is part basketball IQ, part "Look how unselfish I am". HE is his only goal. No one else, nothing else matters. And he still can't see it because he's so wrapped inside himself.
To be completely oblivious to how pathetic and loathsome a guy like that is for that long is simply beyond me.
Hard for me to throw stones at a guy I sheltered and harbored for close to ten years. Not because I don't dislike him intensely but because I'm afraid of getting hit with one of 'em myself.
by peeker643 » Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:36 pm
leadpipe wrote:While I tend to agree here - it might be for a different reason. Mine, well, I was apathetic to all the bullshit because it's 2010 and I see this from athletes on a regular basis.
To be quite honest, any of the bullshit that comes out now, not really suprising - from Lebron or any other pro athlete. Sure LBJ's level of entitlement is inflated by his status, but none of it makes me hate the guy anymore than I already do. And I'm certainly waaay past the point of beating myself up over it.
I've said before all this went down that it was shocking that LBJ came off as well as he did considering his background, in that respect I was wrong, or like Peek insinuates - duped. But, again, oh well. Another modern athlete on the list.
by OldDawg » Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:56 pm
Toxicadam wrote:Imagine the type of shit he got in school by being a Cowboys/Bulls/Yankees fan.

by idoctribefan » Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:11 am
bucknutz94 wrote:Anybody hear Simmons and Klosterman discuss The Queen leaving? Pretty interesting as Klosterman's take was somewhat original.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnradio/pod ... id=2864045

by StewieG » Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:23 am
OldDawg wrote:Toxicadam wrote:Imagine the type of shit he got in school by being a Cowboys/Bulls/Yankees fan.
But doesn't this fit what you see from him now.
It is safe to be a fan of Cowboys/Bulls/Yankees. They are/were the best. There is no risk involved. No effort needed. Hey, its easy to pull for those teams.
Isn't that what he just did with his career? It would be tough to stay and make a champion out of the Cavs. It is safe to make your own all-star team. No risk.
The guy really isn't a competitor. He doesn't really like a challenge.
Wus.
idoctribefan wrote:bucknutz94 wrote:Anybody hear Simmons and Klosterman discuss The Queen leaving? Pretty interesting as Klosterman's take was somewhat original.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnradio/pod ... id=2864045
Why can't Simmons or any of the people at ESPN mention the Gloria/Delonte rumor? Ordered by ESPN to not talk about it so that their access to LeBron isn't taken away?
by aoxo1 » Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:24 am
by FUDU » Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:20 am
by Fire Marshall Bill » Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:48 am
peeker643 wrote:I can't start talking about LBJ's lack of awareness again until I'm no longer amazed by my own.
Anything I could continue to say about him reflects just as poorly on me for not wanting to see it all before when he was 'ours'.
Personally, I'm too old to fall for that shit like I did. I'm nearly as ashamed of myself as I am of him to be perfectly honest.
by JCoz » Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:16 pm
by TouchEmAllTime » Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:06 pm
idoctribefan wrote:bucknutz94 wrote:Anybody hear Simmons and Klosterman discuss The Queen leaving? Pretty interesting as Klosterman's take was somewhat original.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnradio/pod ... id=2864045
by Love child of shawn kemp » Thu Aug 19, 2010 1:07 pm
by Orenthal » Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:38 pm
by Rat_Tail » Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:16 pm
by pod2dawg » Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:52 pm

by tired » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:20 pm
by peeker643 » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:34 pm
tired wrote:Now the SOB will be on the sidelines of TOSU-Cryami game !!! Hates Cleveland but, loves Columbus ???
by motherscratcher » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:03 pm
peeker643 wrote:tired wrote:Now the SOB will be on the sidelines of TOSU-Cryami game !!! Hates Cleveland but, loves Columbus ???
Meh...every time he gets on a plane there's that glimmer of hope that it will fail to reach its destination intact.
Other than that....emptiness in regard to where he goes or what he does.
by Larvell Blanks » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:43 pm
Motherscratcher wrote:![]()
Do we even know which sideline he's standing on?
Not that I care which one. I can only hope that it's not the one where Zach Boren makes an over the shoulder catch while running toward the sideline an stumbles into and lands on LBJ's knee. Because that would break my fucking heart.
Tune in to ESPN2 tonight for a half hour special where they reveal which sideline he will stand on.
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