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Unread postby JoJo White » Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:55 pm

Chipotle, probably one of the top 5 chains in the USA IMO, gets targeted and screwed.

Effin' lawyers.

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July 28, 2010

Antoninetti v. Chipotle

Walter Olson calls our attention to this week's Ninth Circuit decision Antoninetti v. Chipotle, where a panel including Judge Reinhardt ruled that Chipotle's business model of allowing customers watch their burritos being made at 45-inch-high counters violated the ADA because the counters were too high for those in wheelchairs to watch. (Chipotle instead would take ingredients to a customer's table, and even let the wheelchair-bound taste them from serving cups.)

Objectionable enough (it's far from clear how Chipotle can accommodate the wheelchair-bound to the Ninth's satisfaction while both observing health and OSHA codes and permitting customers to view their food being made), but the appellate court was especially activist in overruling the finding of fact of the district court that there was no need for an injunction because there was no irreparable injury to the plaintiff, who specialized in bringing ADA suits:

The [district] court found that Antoninetti had failed to show irreparable injury because he had not revisited either restaurant after Chipotle adopted its written policy and because his "purported desire to return to the [r]estaurants is neither concrete nor sincere or supported by the facts." It also stated that Antoninetti's "history as a plaintiff in accessibility litigation supports this Court's finding that his purported desire to return to the [r]estaurants is not sincere. Since immigrating to the United States in 1991, Plaintiff has sued over twenty business entities for alleged accessibility violations, and, in all (but one) of those cases, he never returned to the establishment he sued after settling the case and obtaining a cash payment."
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Unread postby mattvan1 » Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:27 pm

JoJo White wrote:Chipotle, probably one of the top 5 chains in the USA IMO, gets targeted and screwed.

Effin' lawyers.


Lawyers? Seems as if the plantiff is the bigger doosh.
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Unread postby Ziner » Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:33 pm

Well it looks as if at one point the lawyer got 136,537.83 and the plantiff got $5,000. Yeah and health insurance companies and oil companies make too much in profits.

I'd love to hear from someone how exactly the court comes up with such an exact number.

Concerning the story, it is the ninth circuit, I'd expect nothing different.
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Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill » Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:57 pm

Yeah and health insurance companies and oil companies make too much in profits.


Seriously. Its not the insurance companies that are the enemy, its the hospitals.

...and the pond scum sucking lawyers.

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Unread postby rebelwithoutaclue » Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:53 am

I'd love to hear from someone how exactly the court comes up with such an exact number.



I'm sure the lawyer gave them the number as they were his fees. The guy thought that by suing for such a small amount that Chipotle would just acquiesce and give it to him, thinking the fight wasn't worth the time.
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Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:04 pm

Chipotle isn't very good anyways.

Baja Fresh is where it's at for those in the know.
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Re: Lawyers

Unread postby Ziner » Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:14 pm

Obviously your pizza knowledge does not transition well to Burritos.

Illegal Pete's > Chipotle > Qdoba > Baja Fresh
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Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:21 pm

Baja Fresh is much better than Chipotlecoli. That's obvious to anyone with a working brain.

And now you're a mod..... Ohhhhhhhh Good.

Lemme guess, your perfect day would be eating a Chipotle burrito while pissing in a trough and voting for Sarah Palin.
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Unread postby Ziner » Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:39 pm

It is now clear. You are a woman. You can't handle burritos made for men and you need a pretty little urinal to piss in. I bet you are the same type of person who has to hurry home after dinner because you wont shit in the icky public bathroom.

You're perfect day would be eating a vegetarian burrito with wussy mild sauce and no cheese or sour cream because you are watching your weight while taking a dump on a gold toilet watching Countdown with Keith Olbermann.
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Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:41 pm

WTF are you talking about? I shit in a Speedway today.
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Unread postby peeker643 » Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:47 pm

You two need to settle up with a good 'ol slap fight we can turn into YouTube gold. :hide:

Winner gets to wear pants for a day.

:lmfao:

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Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:52 pm

peeker643 wrote:You two need to settle up with a good 'ol slap fight we can turn into YouTube gold. :hide:

Winner gets to wear pants for a day.

:lmfao:

BTW, the perfect day is waking up at noon to sip hot sauce out of the bottle and chasing it with Makers Mark while watching 16 straight hours of football and war movies. Then throwing down two valium or percocets to get to sleep and waking the next day (which would be Wednesday) to do it all again.



That scenario is gay because it doesn't involve shooting guns.
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Unread postby Ziner » Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:52 pm

No guns, pizza or beer? Can't be the perfect day with out 2 of the 3
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Unread postby Ziner » Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:52 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
That scenario is gay because it doesn't involve shooting guns.


I should use my new cool mod powers to delete this because I thought of it before you anyway. Figures a girl like you would leave out the beer and pizza.

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Unread postby peeker643 » Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:43 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
peeker643 wrote:You two need to settle up with a good 'ol slap fight we can turn into YouTube gold. :hide:

Winner gets to wear pants for a day.

:lmfao:

BTW, the perfect day is waking up at noon to sip hot sauce out of the bottle and chasing it with Makers Mark while watching 16 straight hours of football and war movies. Then throwing down two valium or percocets to get to sleep and waking the next day (which would be Wednesday) to do it all again.



That scenario is gay because it doesn't involve shooting guns.



Hmm...I'm gay for no guns while Laverne & Shirley come up with the exact scenario at the same time. I bet you two giggled across the breakfast nook at each other when you saw what you did. :lmfao:
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Unread postby waborat » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:32 pm

peeker643 wrote:the breakfast nook


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Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Sun Aug 01, 2010 3:17 pm

peeker643 wrote:
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
peeker643 wrote:You two need to settle up with a good 'ol slap fight we can turn into YouTube gold. :hide:

Winner gets to wear pants for a day.

:lmfao:

BTW, the perfect day is waking up at noon to sip hot sauce out of the bottle and chasing it with Makers Mark while watching 16 straight hours of football and war movies. Then throwing down two valium or percocets to get to sleep and waking the next day (which would be Wednesday) to do it all again.



That scenario is gay because it doesn't involve shooting guns.



Hmm...I'm gay for no guns while Laverne & Shirley come up with the exact scenario at the same time. I bet you two giggled across the breakfast nook at each other when you saw what you did. :lmfao:


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Unread postby peeker643 » Sun Aug 01, 2010 3:35 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
peeker643 wrote:
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
peeker643 wrote:You two need to settle up with a good 'ol slap fight we can turn into YouTube gold. :hide:

Winner gets to wear pants for a day.

:lmfao:

BTW, the perfect day is waking up at noon to sip hot sauce out of the bottle and chasing it with Makers Mark while watching 16 straight hours of football and war movies. Then throwing down two valium or percocets to get to sleep and waking the next day (which would be Wednesday) to do it all again.



That scenario is gay because it doesn't involve shooting guns.



Hmm...I'm gay for no guns while Laverne & Shirley come up with the exact scenario at the same time. I bet you two giggled across the breakfast nook at each other when you saw what you did. :lmfao:


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Unread postby skatingtripods » Sun Aug 01, 2010 3:46 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:WTF are you talking about? I shit in a Speedway today.


Do you get Speedy Rewards points for that?
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Unread postby jb » Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:26 pm

You're all idiots.

Everyone hates "lawyers" until they need a "lawyer". Then they are your best F'n friend money can buy, an dthat even counts for fraternity boys.

I plan on sending my divorce lawyer Xmas cards for the rest of my life, and he's probably jewish I think. Dude was MONEY. When my ex's dip shit lawyer was asking him career advice before the hearing, seeing the look on her face was worth every penny.
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Unread postby Ziner » Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:05 pm

Yes, because we should all strive for a society where whoever has the best lawyer gets the most. ::doh::

And we should also strive for a society where companies get sued for completely frivolous things and get awarded money for ridiculous complaints. Then that only breeds more frivolous complaints by people who get paid off because the cost of those lawyers to defend yourself is more than just paying the person to go away. ::doh:: ::doh::

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Unread postby jb » Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:17 pm

Ziner wrote:Yes, because we should all strive for a society where whoever has the best lawyer gets the most. ::doh::

And we should also strive for a society where companies get sued for completely frivolous things and get awarded money for ridiculous complaints.



The latter is called "acountability". Without the ability to kick corps in the nuts where it hurts most, they have no check or balance whatsoever. Oh, "the free market". I forgot.

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Unread postby Ziner » Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:32 pm

jb wrote:
Ziner wrote:Yes, because we should all strive for a society where whoever has the best lawyer gets the most. ::doh::

And we should also strive for a society where companies get sued for completely frivolous things and get awarded money for ridiculous complaints.



The latter is called "acountability". Without the ability to kick corps in the nuts where it hurts most, they have no check or balance whatsoever. Oh, "the free market". I forgot.

Chortle.

Tellin' yah and I hope you never find out, but if you are ever in a pinch, and you get yourself a good lawyer, your tune will change faster than a cheesy post-Beatles Paul McCartney single.


So accountability now is getting paid for having your counter too high and someone can't get the "Chipotle Experience"? That is called a frivolous lawsuit. I have no problem with kicking corporations in the nuts when they deserve it. If there is every a company that tries to do the right thing and doesn't need an external kick in the nuts, it is Chipotle. It isn't about the free market, it is about being ridiculous and lawyers chasing this bullshit all the way to the banks. There are good lawyers out there and many whose profession would never put them near this type of lawsuit, however that doesn't mean we cant call out the small minority of lawyers involved in this garbage.

Glad to see you back up the lawyers on this one to really take Chipotle to the bank and pay them back for them being bankrupt of morals. Come on.

Certainly I will use a lawyer if I ever need one. I have no choice, what are my other options? Going it alone? The whole premise is that we can't hate one (or set of) lawyers because we may need a lawyer one day to defend us from another person who has a lawyer is lazy. I know one thing you can be damn sure I wont be needing a lawyer for... suing Chipotle over counter height, after suing multiple other establishments.
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Unread postby jb » Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:50 pm

Ziner wrote:
jb wrote:
Ziner wrote:Yes, because we should all strive for a society where whoever has the best lawyer gets the most. ::doh::

And we should also strive for a society where companies get sued for completely frivolous things and get awarded money for ridiculous complaints.



The latter is called "acountability". Without the ability to kick corps in the nuts where it hurts most, they have no check or balance whatsoever. Oh, "the free market". I forgot.

Chortle.

Tellin' yah and I hope you never find out, but if you are ever in a pinch, and you get yourself a good lawyer, your tune will change faster than a cheesy post-Beatles Paul McCartney single.


So accountability now is getting paid for having your counter too high and someone can't get the "Chipotle Experience"? That is called a frivolous lawsuit. I have no problem with kicking corporations in the nuts when they deserve it. If there is every a company that tries to do the right thing and doesn't need an external kick in the nuts, it is Chipotle. It isn't about the free market, it is about being ridiculous and lawyers chasing this bullshit all the way to the banks. There are good lawyers out there and many whose profession would never put them near this type of lawsuit, however that doesn't mean we cant call out the small minority of lawyers involved in this garbage.

Glad to see you back up the lawyers on this one to really take Chipotle to the bank and pay them back for them being bankrupt of morals. Come on.

Certainly I will use a lawyer if I ever need one. I have no choice, what are my other options? Going it alone? The whole premise is that we can't hate one (or set of) lawyers because we may need a lawyer one day to defend us from another person who has a lawyer is lazy. I know one thing you can be damn sure I wont be needing a lawyer for... suing Chipotle over counter height, after suing multiple other establishments.


Correct. My takes defended this lawsuit. ::doh::

Isn't Chipotle welcome to counter-sue for frivilous suit after they swat this gnat away?

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Unread postby Ziner » Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:00 pm

jb wrote:
jb wrote:
Ziner wrote:Yes, because we should all strive for a society where whoever has the best lawyer gets the most. ::doh::

And we should also strive for a society where companies get sued for completely frivolous things and get awarded money for ridiculous complaints.



The latter is called "acountability". Without the ability to kick corps in the nuts where it hurts most, they have no check or balance whatsoever. Oh, "the free market". I forgot.


Correct. My takes defended this lawsuit. ::doh::



Then what did you mean about accountability? No one in their right mind would want to protect companies from all lawsuits, but everyone should want to protect them from the bullshit like this. To me this isn't even close. Should have been thrown out.

Wont be happy if I have to pay an extra nickle for my steak burrito because the doosh and his ambulance chaser friend wanted paid.
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Unread postby jb » Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:21 pm

Then what did you mean about accountability?


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Re: Lawyers

Unread postby exiledbuckeye » Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:17 pm

Ziner wrote:Yes, because we should all strive for a society where whoever has the best lawyer gets the most. ::doh::


You need to get the hell out of Boulder; this is an awfully liberal position.
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Unread postby Ziner » Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:22 pm

exiledbuckeye wrote:
Ziner wrote:Yes, because we should all strive for a society where whoever has the best lawyer gets the most. ::doh::


You need to get the hell out of Boulder; this is an awfully liberal position.


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