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by aoxo1 » Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:55 am
by Larvell Blanks » Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:04 pm
scott wrote:Larvell Blanks wrote:
Or is this more of a the truth hurts response?
So you're saying it was Paul Pierce's defense?
by CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07! » Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:07 pm
Larvell Blanks wrote:scott wrote:Larvell Blanks wrote:
Or is this more of a the truth hurts response?
So you're saying it was Paul Pierce's defense?
Just putting both sides out there. Mo has heard plenty the past 2 post seasons about not showing up when asked. I believe it's a gloves are off response as he defended Gilbert after The Decision was made.

by peeker643 » Fri Jul 16, 2010 5:28 pm
Larvell Blanks wrote:I don't see where you can get where he quit," Wade said. "He just had one bad game. It happens. Kobe had a bad game in the Finals. They won. It didn't matter. LeBron's teammates didn't help him out that game and it made the way he played even worse. But he's not a quitter. He didn't quit."
by aoxo1 » Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:08 pm
by dmiles » Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:16 pm

by peeker643 » Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:53 pm
dmiles wrote:Still nice to see Mo snap back on a tweet no matter how truthful or whether or not Kobe had help that Bron didn't.
by e0y2e3 » Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:05 pm

by swerb » Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:22 pm
e0y2e3 wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AoElTeUz7rnHELkRnZOt8Cq8vLYF?slug=aw-heatfreeagency071610
by peeker643 » Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:42 pm
by aoxo1 » Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:48 pm
by swerb » Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:55 pm
aoxo1 wrote:The "your own kid" thing is right, Peek. Most of us were like the parents of the little shit who thinks the problem is with everyone else, not our perfect angel.
Shit, I was as bad or worse than everyone. Life lesson, if I ever procreate.
by leadpipe » Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:57 pm
dmiles wrote:Still nice to see Mo snap back on a tweet no matter how truthful or whether or not Kobe had help that Bron didn't.
by Orenthal » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:03 pm
by Orenthal » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:08 pm
by leadpipe » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:10 pm
swerb wrote:aoxo1 wrote:The "your own kid" thing is right, Peek. Most of us were like the parents of the little shit who thinks the problem is with everyone else, not our perfect angel.
Shit, I was as bad or worse than everyone. Life lesson, if I ever procreate.
Yep.
It's like the effin steroids in baseball thing. All the warning signs were there. Right out there in front of all of us. I was watching the 2000 Home Run Derby on MLB Network at some point this week, and sitting there watching it, I was literally laughing out loud and talking to myself about how I couldn't have pegged what was going on in baseball at the time with the steroids.
This is the same thing.
I feel embarrassed. I also feel a little relieved this asshole no longer wears Cleveland across his chest. I'm all about cheering for the uniform and lord knows we all pull hard for guys that are just horrible human beings that do heinous things ... but Jesus H ... with this asshole LeBron? If I'm living and dying over whether pricks like this stay or leave Cleveland ... it may be time to start developing some other hobbies.
by Orenthal » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:38 pm
by Madre Hill, Superstar » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:46 pm
Orenthal wrote:It just keeps coming...
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/07/16/somebody-needs-to-come-clean-in-lebrongate/

by jerryroche » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:50 pm
by Cease » Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:31 pm
aoxo1 wrote:I also could have sworn that I saw LeBron refusing to foul as time ran out on the season, down by only single digits.

by diminishingskills » Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:48 pm
by FUDU » Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:55 pm
by FUDU » Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:59 pm
by e0y2e3 » Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:13 pm
DiminishingSkills wrote:Meh. I'm always suspicious of any trove of information that was supposedly known ahead of time, but only comes out after the fact. In my mind, Woj was simply covering his ass, saying "see Cleveland, I told you all along that he was gone" ... when in fact he was throwing darts at a board the whole time ("Bron's going to Chicago ... Detroit ... Portland ... the Clippers ... New York ... New Jersey ... Miami ... Miami! See, I told you so!"). And notice how carefully he preserves the reputation of WWWes (gotta protect those sources!).
Believe this word for word as the unbiased truth if you want. But after being gullible for seven years in thinking that Bron would spend his career in Cleveland, maybe we shouldn't be so quick to latch unquestioningly on this guy.

by Prosecutor » Sat Jul 17, 2010 9:28 am
by e0y2e3 » Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:49 am

by leadpipe » Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:36 am
e0y2e3 wrote:DiminishingSkills wrote:Meh. I'm always suspicious of any trove of information that was supposedly known ahead of time, but only comes out after the fact. In my mind, Woj was simply covering his ass, saying "see Cleveland, I told you all along that he was gone" ... when in fact he was throwing darts at a board the whole time ("Bron's going to Chicago ... Detroit ... Portland ... the Clippers ... New York ... New Jersey ... Miami ... Miami! See, I told you so!"). And notice how carefully he preserves the reputation of WWWes (gotta protect those sources!).
Believe this word for word as the unbiased truth if you want. But after being gullible for seven years in thinking that Bron would spend his career in Cleveland, maybe we shouldn't be so quick to latch unquestioningly on this guy.
Wes got off LBJ's plane when they landed in Miami holding hands and laughing w/ him and laughing. Your theory that Wes was spurned by LBJ and Woj lost his source was, well, wrong. Wes was along for the whole ride, just wasn't front and center.
And no clue if all of this is true, but if you've been reading and listening to Windy it all jives, all the way down to Windy saying point blank he now believes Cleveland wasn't even in LBJ's top two on NBATV.
by Prosecutor » Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:19 pm
by Rat_Tail » Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:22 pm
by Fire Marshall Bill » Sat Jul 17, 2010 5:56 pm
... it may be time to start developing some other hobbies.
by SoulDawg74 » Sat Jul 17, 2010 6:14 pm
Rat_Tail wrote:Even though LBJ is a complete douche, I still blame Bosh for not wanting to come to Cleveland.
Because LBJ would've stayed had Bosh wanted to come.
So fuck that weasel look-alike.
by tired » Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:01 pm
I've read and heard (Drennon) that was not true. All rumor. don't know what is true tho when it surrounds LeCunt !!!Rat_Tail wrote:Even though LBJ is a complete douche, I still blame Bosh for not wanting to come to Cleveland.
Because LBJ would've stayed had Bosh wanted to come.
So fuck that weasel look-alike.
by Prosecutor » Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:54 am
Rat_Tail wrote:Even though LBJ is a complete douche, I still blame Bosh for not wanting to come to Cleveland.
Because LBJ would've stayed had Bosh wanted to come.
So fuck that weasel look-alike.
by mattvan1 » Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:34 am
Prosecutor wrote: By the way, does anybody really believe that LeBron tanked against Boston so it would be easier for him to leave Cleveland? (snip)If LeBron quit against Boston, I don't think it had anything to do with his free agency. YMMV.
by furls » Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:42 am
by Rat_Tail » Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:09 pm
Prosecutor wrote:Rat_Tail wrote:Even though LBJ is a complete douche, I still blame Bosh for not wanting to come to Cleveland.
Because LBJ would've stayed had Bosh wanted to come.
So fuck that weasel look-alike.
Why should Bosh want to come to Cleveland when he could play with Wade and LBJ in Miami?
by SoulDawg74 » Sun Jul 18, 2010 12:16 pm
Rat_Tail wrote:Prosecutor wrote:Rat_Tail wrote:Even though LBJ is a complete douche, I still blame Bosh for not wanting to come to Cleveland.
Because LBJ would've stayed had Bosh wanted to come.
So fuck that weasel look-alike.
Why should Bosh want to come to Cleveland when he could play with Wade and LBJ in Miami?
Honestly, I think Bosh picked Miami more for the glitz and glam than for winning.
Because he could've won in Cleveland just as easily.
by e0y2e3 » Sun Jul 18, 2010 7:40 pm

by waborat » Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:16 pm
Prosecutor wrote:If LeBron quit against Boston, I don't think it had anything to do with his free agency. YMMV.
by dem425 » Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:29 pm
Here's what Dwyane Wade told FanHouse at a charity basketball event in Miami today, with emphasis ours:
"We're going to be wearing a bullseye,'' Wade said. "But that's what you play for. If we lose a couple in a row this season, it will be like the World Trade (Center) is coming down again. When the schedule comes out, people will be looking for the Lakers and Heat, to see when they play us. I feel like I'm a new player in Miami. That's how excited I am.''
by e0y2e3 » Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:33 pm

by hermanfontenot » Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:49 pm


by dem425 » Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:57 pm
"We're going to be wearing a bullseye. But that's what you play for," Wade said. "We enjoy the bullseye. Plus, there's going to be times when we lose 2-3 games in a row, and it seems like the world has crashed down. You all are going to make it seem like the World Trade is coming down again, but it's not going to be nothing but a couple basketball games.
by Cease » Sun Jul 18, 2010 9:22 pm
e0y2e3 wrote:Hold up dem, that quote was wrong.
Wade was wrongly quoted by the same fuck that led the Howard for NBA MVP bullshit last year.
Here is the real transcript, and my apologies for linking Tim of Orlando:
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/07/18/heat ... -expected/
My bad on giving Fanhouse the acceptance I usually do and not looking at the fuck that broke the story. Potvak is a joke.
That said, he (Wade) still had the audacity to mention it.

by CP » Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:31 pm
by Prosecutor » Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:41 pm
furls wrote:Prosecutor,
You assume much about LeBron's ability to do and say the right thing. His atrocious decision regarding "The Decision" clearly indicates that he would not have been savy enough to say something like that. After watching the Boston series I came to the conclusion that either the elbow injury was MUCH more serious than LBJ was letting on, or that he was gone and he knew it and just didn't care enough to put the effort into it. With my blinders still on, I thought it was the former. I thought LBJ was the kind of guy that wouldn't allow there to be any excuses, that he was committed to this team.
After learning more about this situation, I tend to think that he knew he was gone. If you read the comments he has since made about his teammates, his supporting cast and his own level of play (spoiling the fans with seven years of blah, blah). The picture becomes much more clear. He just didn't care enough to really try; whether he threw the games on purpose or not is something that only LBJ and his innermost circle will ever know, but I do know that his effort was nowhere near what it was when he single-handedly beat the Pissedons in the playoffs a several years ago. Paint it however you like, but it is what it is, less effort than was required to win.
by hermanfontenot » Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:53 pm
Did he have an elbow injury? According to the MRI, he had two.
So why didn't he try to win it all and walk away victorious, having accomplished something truly exceptional?

by FUDU » Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:02 am
Look the LeBron was injured excuse is complete garbage, as stated by Herm most recently (for the 1500th time). Nothing in his shooting suggested he had an injury, he was not throwing up bricks, his shot wasn't unreasonably short on a consistent basis, all the things that would have shown up if he did in fact have an injury. The elbow might not be the most significant part of the mechanics of a shot but none the less he was physically as good as one is at that time of year. He mentally checked out long before the series and that helped him physically check out as well. The guy tanked, the quicker you get that through your head the quicker others in here will stop giving you shit.I agree, that wasn't the LeBron we saw against the Pistons. Did he have an elbow injury? According to the MRI, he had two. After everything that has come out, I agree that he knew he was leaving Cleveland. So why didn't he try to win it all and walk away victorious, having accomplished something truly exceptional? His elbow was killing him to the point that he shot a free throw left-handed against Chicago, and he didn't see any way he was going to be able to carry his team past Boston, Orlando, and LA with a bum elbow. So he quit. I think that's as plausible an explanation as any, but like you said, only LBJ and his circle will ever really know. It doesn't matter anyway. Time to move on. It's going to be tough watching Miami win 4-5 titles, though. And they will. Like DWade said, players from all over the league were calling to see if they fit in with the Heat. They pretty much got their pick of role players to choose from, starting with Z.
by aoxo1 » Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:42 am
Prosecutor wrote:They pretty much got their pick of role players to choose from, starting with Z.
Prosecutor wrote:They pretty much got their pick of role players to choose from, starting with Z.
Prosecutor wrote:They pretty much got their pick of role players to choose from, starting with Z.
Prosecutor wrote:They pretty much got their pick of role players to choose from, starting with Z.
Prosecutor wrote:They pretty much got their pick of role players to choose from, starting with Z.
Prosecutor wrote:They pretty much got their pick of role players to choose from, starting with Z.
Prosecutor wrote:They pretty much got their pick of role players to choose from, starting with Z.
Prosecutor wrote:They pretty much got their pick of role players to choose from, starting with Z.
Prosecutor wrote:They pretty much got their pick of role players to choose from, starting with Z.
Prosecutor wrote:They pretty much got their pick of role players to choose from, starting with Z.
by Larvell Blanks » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:57 am
aoxo1 wrote:Prosecutor wrote:They pretty much got their pick of role players to choose from, starting with Z.
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