Nets go with Billy King instead of Ferry as GM

[swerb]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-netsgm

[e0y2e3]

Everything I have seen says this was done because Avery wanted to have complete control and King is just a moronic pawn living in Avery's world.

[SoulDawg74]

Everything I have seen says this was done because Avery wanted to have complete control and King is just a moronic pawn living in Avery's world.

SD:

Pays the same , if your running King or getting run by Ferry.

Avery was scapegoated for Dirks deficiencies and Cuban's quirks,
sucker could become a real monster with all that KGB cash

If he gets some bass in his voice.


SoulDawg

[e0y2e3]

Yeup, Avery is a great coach that got scapegoated, you go SD.

Bet you watched him coach less then 1 game total too.

Fucking idiot.

[Orenthal]

I don't know eye. Guy always seemed very enlightened on the ESPN studio show. A regular Jeremy Bentham.

[SoulDawg74]

Yeup, Avery is a great coach that got scapegoated, you go SD.

Bet you watched him coach less then 1 game total too.

Fucking idiot.

SD:

Unlike so many who spurned the Nets as a graveyard , Averies positive assessment was Smart .

Vocally supporting the Nets gig as one of the hidden gems in the NBA when he had a public
platform to politic for a job,was something obviously not lost on Krushev.

With their draft and returning roster a Lebron James would have made them serious contenders.


SoulDawg

[SoulDawg74]

Yeup, Avery is a great coach that got scapegoated, you go SD.

Bet you watched him coach less then 1 game total too.

Fucking idiot.

SD:

Unlike so many who spurned the Nets as a graveyard , Averies positive assessment was Smart .

Vocally supporting the Nets gig as one of the hidden gems in the NBA when he had a public
platform to politic for a job,was something obviously not lost on Krushev.

With their draft and returning roster a Lebron James would have made them serious contenders.


SoulDawg

[SoulDawg74]

I don't know eye. Guy always seemed very enlightened on the ESPN studio show. A regular Jeremy Bentham.

SD:

In all of Sports the only owner who meddles more is Al Davis , now that George Steinbrenner is dead.

When the soft as Charmin Mavs got bounced repeatedly because they foolishly thought Dirk was a standalone Alpha dog leader, adding Jason Kid and blaming Avery for that gaffe didn't solve that mystery.

SoulDawg

[Orenthal]

^You do know that I think Avery Johnson is a goof, horrible coach, and one that will do an acceptable job in spite of himself, due to having a team with talent.

The guy was clueless on how to stop that vaunted Golden State attack.

[SoulDawg74]

I don't know eye. Guy always seemed very enlightened on the ESPN studio show. A regular Jeremy Bentham.

SD:

In all of Sports the only owner who meddles more is Al Davis , now that George Steinbrenner is dead.

When the soft as Charmin Mavs got bounced repeatedly because they foolishly thought Dirk was a standalone Alpha dog leader, adding Jason Kid and blaming Avery for that gaffe didn't solve that mystery.

SoulDawg

[SoulDawg74]

I don't know eye. Guy always seemed very enlightened on the ESPN studio show. A regular Jeremy Bentham.

SD:

In all of Sports the only owner who meddles more is Al Davis , now that George Steinbrenner is dead.

When the soft as Charmin Mavs got bounced repeatedly because they foolishly thought Dirk was a standalone Alpha dog leader, adding Jason Kid and blaming Avery for that gaffe didn't solve that mystery.

SoulDawg

[SoulDawg74]

I don't know eye. Guy always seemed very enlightened on the ESPN studio show. A regular Jeremy Bentham.

SD:

In all of Sports the only owner who meddles more is Al Davis , now that George Steinbrenner is dead.

When the soft as Charmin Mavs got bounced repeatedly because they foolishly thought Dirk was a standalone Alpha dog leader, adding Jason Kid and blaming Avery for that gaffe didn't solve that mystery.

SoulDawg

[SoulDawg74]

^You do know that I think Avery Johnson is a goof, horrible coach, and one that will do an acceptable job in spite of himself, due to having a team with talent.

The guy was clueless on how to stop that vaunted Golden State attack.

SD:

Yeup they're the SanDiego Chargers, great regular season record , butt playoff choke artists.

Dirk didn't quit ala Lebitch in that series , he just didn't show up.

He was as centric to their offense as our one man four bystanding support offense.

Avery squeaky voice and mouse like features notwithstanding, we still ain't talking Mike Brown Clueless.

SoulDawg

[CP]

So 12 replies in this thread, 8 of which are SD. This is a neat new schtick you have going, SD. I can't tell if the replies are drivel, accidental double-posts, or streams of consciousness interrupted only by the Submit button.

That said, Avery wasn't that good in Dallas. He knows the game, but a lot of guys know the game and can't translate that into coaching. By all accounts, his tenure in Dallas was overly authoritarian, he constantly clashed with his star players and was generally stubborn and couldn't relate to his players when it mattered.

Look at that Hornets series, hard to blame on Nowitzki. They lose game one where he gets to the FT line (12-13), scores 31, and rest of team shoots under 30%. They lose game two but Dirk against gets to the FT line (12-15), scores 27 and the team can't shoot (no other starter made more than 4 buckets). Avery also famously liked to change starting lineups in playoff series.

[SoulDawg74]

So 12 replies in this thread, 8 of which are SD. This is a neat new schtick you have going, SD. I can't tell if the replies are drivel, accidental double-posts, or streams of consciousness interrupted only by the Submit button.

That said, Avery wasn't that good in Dallas. He knows the game, but a lot of guys know the game and can't translate that into coaching. By all accounts, his tenure in Dallas was overly authoritarian, he constantly clashed with his star players and was generally stubborn and couldn't relate to his players when it mattered.

Look at that Hornets series, hard to blame on Nowitzki. They lose game one where he gets to the FT line (12-13), scores 31, and rest of team shoots under 30%. They lose game two but Dirk against gets to the FT line (12-15), scores 27 and the team can't shoot (no other starter made more than 4 buckets). Avery also famously liked to change starting lineups in playoff series.

SD:

The double posts are unintentional.

Dirk getting his points isn't news considering the entire offense and team went thru him ,
the lack of assists and rebounds and overall impactful dominance for a big in that series
and throughout his career is what separates him from great to merely good.

Some teams simply give you matchup fits , which made mere actually fear getting the eighth seed Charlotte
Bobcats in the playoffs this year , because of their successful play against us despite their record with everybody else.

Agreed Averyies performance was curiously more Marty Shottenheimer than Jimmay , but IMO
it was more finding out you can't win with one bell cow and some sheep , than Roker redux.

However there are parallels to the Cavs blitzkreiging the season and then shitting the bed when
they couldn't sucka punch ya in hit and run season formats and had to stand and deliver and make adjustments to your adjustments in series play.

Cuban forced players mid season with the Kid trade , and while Jason is an All Star in his own right
recent history and a coaching change have proven he was hardly the answer or necessarily the right piece to add to that puzzle .


SoulDawg

[CP]

Avery got killed, and rightfully so, in changing around his lineup before the GS series even started. Here you have the #1 seed altering what it did just to try to stop the #8 seed. Comparing that to the Marty stereotype isn't as accurate as watching a guy outthink himself for no reason. Panicked in Hornets series too. Guy just wasn't ready for prime time. He can rebuild that Nets team just enough to get canned when they need to make a run at a title.

[e0y2e3]

Avery got killed, and rightfully so, in changing around his lineup before the GS series even started. Here you have the #1 seed altering what it did just to try to stop the #8 seed. Comparing that to the Marty stereotype isn't as accurate as watching a guy outthink himself for no reason. Panicked in Hornets series too. Guy just wasn't ready for prime time. He can rebuild that Nets team just enough to get canned when they need to make a run at a title.

He's also a sniveling little troll man that is an arrogant cocksucker and has no idea how to handle NBA egos.

He also has a tendency to come off (as an announcer) as the dumbest guy in the room every single day. This isn't like Van Gundy, who says crazy s h i t because he is crazy and then drops a random golden nugget of brilliance, this is a guy that never once said anything interesting or intelligent.

He also is venturing into the waters of being in charge of personnel and coaching, which is about as good an idea for an NBA coach as it was for SD to hit that eight-ball this morning and attack this board.

[SoulDawg74]

Avery got killed, and rightfully so, in changing around his lineup before the GS series even started. Here you have the #1 seed altering what it did just to try to stop the #8 seed. Comparing that to the Marty stereotype isn't as accurate as watching a guy outthink himself for no reason. Panicked in Hornets series too. Guy just wasn't ready for prime time. He can rebuild that Nets team just enough to get canned when they need to make a run at a title.

He's also a sniveling little troll man that is an arrogant cocksucker and has no idea how to handle NBA egos.

He also has a tendency to come off (as an announcer) as the dumbest guy in the room every single day. This isn't like Van Gundy, who says crazy s h i t because he is crazy and then drops a random golden nugget of brilliance, this is a guy that never once said anything interesting or intelligent.

He also is venturing into the waters of being in charge of personnel and coaching, which is about as good an idea for an NBA coach as it was for SD to hit that eight-ball this morning and attack this board.

SD:

A difference of Opinion is not an attack , although cheap attacks can be construed as a difference of opinion or an atypical eyesore reply.

Johnson was smart enough to sway a KGB Billionaire into handing him the keys ,
I doubt he's worried anynore than myself that he's still not yet a legion in your little mind.

SoulDawg

[e0y2e3]

Yeup, and David Kahn was smart enough to convince a franchise w/ a great rebuild opportunity to hand him the keys.

Means he's got the skills to pay the bills, rest assured.

You're just defending Avery because he's black. Admit it.

[SoulDawg74]

Yeup, and David Kahn was smart enough to convince a franchise w/ a great rebuild opportunity to hand him the keys.

Means he's got the skills to pay the bills, rest assured.

You're just defending Avery because he's black. Admit it.

SD:

Not at all , my memories of the Mavs debacle were based on them having the faith Dirk was Patton instead
of Montgomery .

They were wrong which has been amply validated .

Johnson was a man embattled from within an organization in full deenile of that fact being possible.

Sure he compounded some issues , butt if you think working with Cuban is like rowing a dinghy in your bathtub you ain't been paying attention.

and for the record

I thought Van Gundy would have made an excellent choice to deal with the Lebron Circus
even moreso than Scott because of the Black white dynamic Riles is playing to great effect.


SoulDawg

[RickNashEquilibrium]

SD, just read this and get a clue about the situation. I don't step on your toes in the Browns board, but you really need to school yourself on all things NBA. Just sayin'.

FTR - this piece was written shortly after the Mavs debacle and pretty much sums up Johnson's big game repertoire.

http://theassociation.blogs.com/the_association/2007/04/is_avery_johnso.html

[hermanfontenot]

He's also a sniveling little troll man that is an arrogant cocksucker and has no idea how to handle NBA egos.

Which explains why he lost the team in Dallas near the end.

We're talking about a guy who a.) blew a 2-0 lead in the Finals and b.) lost in the first round as a one-seed while being completely owned, body and soul, by the opposing coach. And Cavaliers fans actually prop up the guy (here and on RCF.) Mike Brown got hung out to dry for lot less.

[SoulDawg74]

SD, just read this and get a clue about the situation. I don't step on your toes in the Browns board, but you really need to school yourself on all things NBA. Just sayin'.

FTR - this piece was written shortly after the Mavs debacle and pretty much sums up Johnson's big game repertoire.

http://theassociation.blogs.com/the_association/2007/04/is_avery_johnso.html

SD:

Nice read butt you forget it substantiates my point about his Marty rep and certain teams just
having your number (Denver and the Browns ) ring a memory .

The Mavs got handled in the regular season by this team same as the Cavs got handled by Jordans
Bobcats , which would somehow answer some of the complaints about Avery
curiously and unnecessarily changing , on what worked on other teams what during the regular season

BTW this seems to back up my take on Dirk not exactly being all that and a bag of chips when
it really counted, not as bad as Lebitches indifferent tank job in Boston 6, but a crises of command nonetheless


"""""Dallas seemed to play best with Dirk on the bench and Diop in the game, a lineup which, now I'm just guessing here, will not take you very far in the playoffs."""""

What do ya do when your so called (cough cough ) best player plays in his wifes panties
when its sac time.

SoulDawg

[e0y2e3]

SD, just read this and get a clue about the situation. I don't step on your toes in the Browns board, but you really need to school yourself on all things NBA. Just sayin'.

FTR - this piece was written shortly after the Mavs debacle and pretty much sums up Johnson's big game repertoire.

http://theassociation.blogs.com/the_association/2007/04/is_avery_johnso.html

""""Dallas seemed to play best with Dirk on the bench and Diop in the game, a lineup which, now I'm just guessing here, will not take you very far in the playoffs."""""

Diop didn't take Dirk's minutes, he played his ass off that playoffs on the court at Center.

[e0y2e3]

He's also a sniveling little troll man that is an arrogant cocksucker and has no idea how to handle NBA egos.

Which explains why he lost the team in Dallas near the end.

We're talking about a guy who a.) blew a 2-0 lead in the Finals and b.) lost in the first round as a one-seed while being completely owned, body and soul, by the opposing coach. And Cavaliers fans actually prop up the guy (here and on RCF.) Mike Brown got hung out to dry for lot less.

Yep.

[SoulDawg74]

He's also a sniveling little troll man that is an arrogant cocksucker and has no idea how to handle NBA egos.

Which explains why he lost the team in Dallas near the end.

We're talking about a guy who a.) blew a 2-0 lead in the Finals and b.) lost in the first round as a one-seed while being completely owned, body and soul, by the opposing coach. And Cavaliers fans actually prop up the guy (here and on RCF.) Mike Brown got hung out to dry for lot less.

Yep.

SD:

How so , in seven years with the so called star of the league Mike Brown got worse in the playoffs not
better.

I'd of fired his ass when we blew that first series in Boston let alone the 4-0 shutout by San Antone
or the back to back swoons after winning back to back 60 game seasons and Home Court.


SoulDawg

[Orenthal]

^Really? 7 years... Really?

Why even answer this guy? Get caught in hrrible take, tangent yourself into another horrible take, tangent that into a Mike Brown take that isn't any more accurate then the previous two.

[waborat]

^Really? 7 years... Really?

Why even answer this guy? Get caught in hrrible take, tangent yourself into another horrible take, tangent that into a Mike Brown take that isn't any more accurate then the previous two.

Heard a guy call into Triv today and tell him he sent a letter to Danny Ferry the day LeScottie was drafted and how DF better look out for him and help him grow

[Orenthal]

Of course getting onto 480 from the State Road on-ramp I encountered white trash that thought they had complete right of way, to the point they were willing to ram their dodge POS into my car to make the point. Long story short we should be able to kill random retarded people just for the good of society.

I understand that encountering white trash in that part of Cleveland/Parma is about 100%, however that is where I grew up, and I would like to remember it differently...

Again until SD can demonstrate even a fundemental knowledge of what he is talking about, I'd ignore his posts. No need to reply SD, we've seen that post 10,000 times.

[SoulDawg74]

Of course getting onto 480 from the State Road on-ramp I encountered white trash that thought they had complete right of way, to the point they were willing to ram their dodge POS into my car to make the point. Long story short we should be able to kill random retarded people just for the good of society.

I understand that encountering white trash in that part of Cleveland/Parma is about 100%, however that is where I grew up, and I would like to remember it differently...

Again until SD can demonstrate even a fundemental knowledge of what he is talking about, I'd ignore his posts. No need to reply SD, we've seen that post 10,000 times.

SD:

Orenthal , i get you don't like AJ , you don't get that I like Brown even less than your worst
loathing of Johnson.

I wanted him fired when they blew that lead and let Boston off the hook in game seven,
That was our Champiuonship they won.

Johnson was Cuckled by Cuban , thats my take , yes he lost the team but after
Cuban denutted him , just the way Models meddling wrung control from Paul Brown,and orchestrated
with every coach he hired thereafter.

Jason kid was as welcome as Andre Rison and the timing couldn't have been worse at the time,
but Cuban was enamored with shiny objects to adorn his star , How'd that work out.
t have been worse when they made that deal,

With the short attention span of these stars you can't have two voices.

The KGB money hired a coach who played in a tougher division than the Cavs played , with a lesser
star who amassed consistant winning seasons ala the Shottenheimer model choking on their chicken come
the playoffs.

Brown got blitzed against San Antone , we didn't win a game while he stood
on the sidelines with his finger up his ass and played deaf Mute to the refs while Bron got double
fucked and gang banged and couldn't buy a foul.

We had guys on the bench at Orlando who could have played the Kurt Rambis six foul game , but he
wouldn't play Smith or let Howard trip over Darnell but was content to let "Z" get butt Fucked
without nairy an adjustment , allowing the rein of threes from guys so wide open you could park a semi
trailer between them and the Nearest Cav defender.

Add two back to back 60 game seasons and still nada.

Yeah Johnson is a whinny voiced ugly looking little Mofo , but he's Mona Lisa next to Brown
when it comes to offense common sense and getting respect from the refs.

Wonder how Brown would have faired with the Cuban circus behind the bench
and in Lequeens ear , it did wonders for Dirky dearest.

OOOOps my bad , firing Avery is gonna net them Fucks a ring any minute

Not.

Bet the Russian gets his first.



SoulDawg

[CP]

[SoulDawg74]

SD:

nice try ,

Does your husband post .

[CP]

The certainties in life... death, taxes, and SD immediately reverting to the "you're a woman" or "you're gay" retort when someone responds to his inane, incomprehensible ramblings. Never before have I seen a post so befitting of that YouTube clip; well, at least not since the last SD post I tried to read.

Great schtick there. Make shit up, misspell such difficult words in the English language like "it", type in your made-up space language, and then when called out, just challenge the masculinity of the other guy. I get it.

That said, I'll give this to you, your lame "homo" retorts at least get your misguided point across better than a page of key-mashing.

[SoulDawg74]

The certainties in life... death, taxes, and SD immediately reverting to the "you're a woman" or "you're gay" retort when someone responds to his inane, incomprehensible ramblings. Never before have I seen a post so befitting of that YouTube clip; well, at least not since the last SD post I tried to read.

Great schtick there. Make shit up, misspell such difficult words in the English language like "it", type in your made-up space language, and then when called out, just challenge the masculinity of the other guy. I get it.

That said, I'll give this to you, your lame "homo" retorts at least get your misguided point across better than a page of key-mashing.

SD:

This is supposed to be a Discussion board .

Not a bitch forum ,where when one Jackass is menstruating everybody else is
supposed to act like a Cunt.

YMMV




SoulDawg

[SoulDawg74]

The certainties in life... death, taxes, and SD immediately reverting to the "you're a woman" or "you're gay" retort when someone responds to his inane, incomprehensible ramblings. Never before have I seen a post so befitting of that YouTube clip; well, at least not since the last SD post I tried to read.

Great schtick there. Make shit up, misspell such difficult words in the English language like "it", type in your made-up space language, and then when called out, just challenge the masculinity of the other guy. I get it.

That said, I'll give this to you, your lame "homo" retorts at least get your misguided point across better than a page of key-mashing.

SD:

This is supposed to be a Discussion board .

Not a bitch forum ,where when one Jackass is menstruating everybody else is
supposed to act like a Cunt.

YMMV




SoulDawg

[Ziner]

The certainties in life... death, taxes, and SD immediately reverting to the "you're a woman" or "you're gay" retort and double posting that retort when someone responds to his inane, incomprehensible ramblings.

Had to fix that

[CP]

SD:

This is supposed to be a Discussion board .

Not a bitch forum ,where when one Jackass is menstruating everybody else is
supposed to act like a Cunt.

YMMV




SoulDawg

My apologies to you, I figured you were in menopause by now.

Do you even know what YMMV means? Either you don't or you just admitted you had a vagina, which since you mentioned someone is menstruating, I suppose that would be you, given then everyone is responding to your ramblings. All while calling yourself a jackass.

(BTW, how the hell did you spell menstruating correctly? You misspell words like "it" and "but" regularly and then slip up and spell menstruating?)

[SoulDawg74]

SD:

This is supposed to be a Discussion board .

Not a bitch forum ,where when one Jackass is menstruating everybody else is
supposed to act like a Cunt.

YMMV




SoulDawg

My apologies to you, I figured you were in menopause by now.

Do you even know what YMMV means? Either you don't or you just admitted you had a vagina, which since you mentioned someone is menstruating, I suppose that would be you, given then everyone is responding to your ramblings. All while calling yourself a jackass.

(BTW, how the hell did you spell menstruating correctly? You misspell words like "it" and "but" regularly and then slip up and spell menstruating?)

SD:

Shhhhh, don't tell nobody , lets keep it between us girls.


SoulDawg