Bosh & Wade Sign With Miami

[e0y2e3]

Peeks, you are echoing.

[British_Pharaoh]

I don't know where Bosh will end up but it pretty much sounds like Miami is a lock.

What I DO know is that Bosh is an insecure, attention craving little bitch on the level of Lebron James.

LeBron just tweets less.

That's actually what I was thinking, but Lindsey Lohan made me laugh and Lebron made me sad.

Lohan just makes me horny

[peeker643]

Peeks, you are echoing.

Makes it no less true Lee.

The whole thing makes me a bit ill. Not ill enough to go without lunch, but look at it and tell me it ain't pathetic what these guys have reduced themselves to.

And they'll call these NBA kids attention whores and sellouts while they do the same thing 140 words at a time.

[e0y2e3]

Well, they are writing full reports on all of this stuff.

Factually, I cannot blame reporters for reporting what executives and agents are telling them. They stop they risk missing the story and/or losing the source.

Gotta report what you hear and gotta trust your sources.

LBJ, Wade and Bosh set out to create this mess and they did, onus is on them.

I'd still rather my reporters show up to work and tell me what executives from teams are saying to them.

[SoulDawg74]

so the decision pretty much boils to down to something as shallow as "I like south beach, the girls and the club scene", over say, going to Chicago which has an NBA finals ready roster, or Cleveland in the fact that he could have made 30 more million, playing with LeBron, on a team that has Byron Scott, and has had the NBA's best record the past two years?

SD:

When its all said and done All Miami has done so far is add a Pussy who doesn't have
the Moxy and guts to play center to pair with Dwayne Wade and a very poor roster .

Cleveland really only needs a legit big guy who can move to add with Bron and to move Delonte (because of offield issues) and dump cap space with Mo or Jamison to eclipse all
other offseason deals so far and remain a viable contender.

Its there own fault the powers to be elected to pay Z and go cheap with Boozer in the past
Not sure if we;ll ever recapture that opportunity lost.


SoulDawg

[jb]

Well, they are writing full reports on all of this stuff.

Factually, I cannot blame reporters for reporting what executives and agents are telling them. They stop they risk missing the story and/or losing the source.

Gotta report what you hear and gotta trust your sources.

LBJ, Wade and Bosh set out to create this mess and they did, onus is on them.

I'd still rather my reporters show up to work and tell me what executives from teams are saying to them.

They are confirming nada and have completely bailed on all they should have learned in J School. Accuracy has been offed to be first.

And I love it.

[peeker643]

Well, they are writing full reports on all of this stuff.

Factually, I cannot blame reporters for reporting what executives and agents are telling them. They stop they risk missing the story and/or losing the source.

Gotta report what you hear and gotta trust your sources.

LBJ, Wade and Bosh set out to create this mess and they did, onus is on them.

I'd still rather my reporters show up to work and tell me what executives from teams are saying to them.

Simple questions (and not trying to be a dick bu t the media's role interests me):

1) How accurate were any of them?
2) How far you willing to run with 'sources say'?
3) What did anyone learn from it that they didn't already know?
4) You willing to accept this way with 'hard news' as opposed to candy store stuff because it's gone well down that road too?
5) If these 'executive' sources were full of crap how much credibility do they have going forward?

To me it's just lazy and disappointing. That's all.

No arguing there are people eating it all up though.

[peeker643]

Well, they are writing full reports on all of this stuff.

Factually, I cannot blame reporters for reporting what executives and agents are telling them. They stop they risk missing the story and/or losing the source.

Gotta report what you hear and gotta trust your sources.

LBJ, Wade and Bosh set out to create this mess and they did, onus is on them.

I'd still rather my reporters show up to work and tell me what executives from teams are saying to them.

They are confirming nada and have completely bailed on all they should have learned in J School. Accuracy has been offed to be first.

And I love it.

I've read plenty of it myself and ttitillation sells and is fine. But call a spade a spade, no?

[jb]

Well, they are writing full reports on all of this stuff.

Factually, I cannot blame reporters for reporting what executives and agents are telling them. They stop they risk missing the story and/or losing the source.

Gotta report what you hear and gotta trust your sources.

LBJ, Wade and Bosh set out to create this mess and they did, onus is on them.

I'd still rather my reporters show up to work and tell me what executives from teams are saying to them.

They are confirming nada and have completely bailed on all they should have learned in J School. Accuracy has been offed to be first.

And I love it.

I've read plenty of it myself and ttitillation sells and is fine. But call a spade a spade, no?

Yeah. Journalistic integrity as you knew it is dead. Technology killed it.

[e0y2e3]

Accuracy has been fairly good when it has mattered. EOD: we knew Wade played up Chicago to make his doc more interesting, Bosh is a bitch and we knew about the phone call this AM.

That's all that really matters.

CB is the one who went apeshit here and shouldn't have, beyond him (and Ford) the Woj's, Buchs, etc... all kept fairly even keeled.

And I don't think the sources were actually fully of crap, I think you had misinformation being dropped left and right by the players and that is the crux issue on the information pipeline here. Some of it, no doubt, was Execs and agents playing PR as well, but I think the masterstrokes of miseducation came straight from the sources (and Wes).

[Calis32]

Its there own fault the powers to be elected to pay Z and go cheap with Boozer in the past
Not sure if we'll ever recapture that opportunity lost.

Got to agree there. What a difference Boozer would have made over the last few years. And don't forget the Welsh deal and others that cost us draft picks with nothing to show for it now.

Seriously, what the fuck is this franchise going to do if LBJ books it?

[peeker643]

Accuracy has been fairly good when it has mattered. EOD: we knew Wade played up Chicago to make his doc more interesting, Bosh is a bitch and we knew about the phone call this AM.

That's all that really matters.

Again, with all the tweets and all the bytes dedicated to this three-ring circus over the past few weeks, tell me which part of that we didn't already know. It's not an EOD issue. It was at the beginning of the day we already knew this or had a very, very good idea.

We learned nothing.

If it's a paradigm shift where sports reporting is concerned I'll adjust. But that's just what it is IMO. These guys can't pass themselves off as being any better than TMZ or The National Enquirer.

It's fine as long as we and they own that.

[rk]

Says more about D Wade leaving his kids in Chicago.

Nonsense. He has to worry about putting food on their tables. 30 mil more might be enough to do that.

His kids are going to want the 30mil more than seeing their dad 50-70 more days out of the year. Wade is single so he was going to spend half the year in South Beach anyway.

As for Bosh I still don't think he was a good fit with Lebron. Would rather have him then not have him but I don't have confidence that his game would improve with Lebron and I can certainly see his level of frustration if it didn't going up enough to impact his relationship with Everyone Pay Attention To ME Because I am LEBRON.

Thinking the same pieces to get Bosh in a S&T could be used to get Paul from the Hornets midseason. He would be a much, much better fit with Lebron who would defer to him for ball handling but still have the inside open to go to the hoop.

[Ziner]

These two on espn are great. "It's all about winning". If it were they would be in Chicago. Wade said it isnt about money and he is willing to take less.

Excuse me...

These two are hilarious. I can only imagine LeBron will up the ante even more.

Edit: only laughing assuming Lebron doesnt come. If Lebron comes perhaps he would take less because he would likely need to. However, if Lebron isnt there, there is no way he signs for less than max

[pup]

These two on espn are great. "It's all about winning". If it were they would be in Chicago. Wade said it isnt about money and he is willing to take less.

Excuse me...

These two are hilarious. I can only imagine LeBron will up the ante even more.

If he is willing to take less.

And it is all about winning.

7/8/2010 = A very bad day in C-Town

[rk]

Windhorst's latest twitter is far more disturbing.

I think Brian is just starting to realize something that some of the rest of us are already taking for granted. The kid who came out of high school with a team first, basketball first mentality who respected and honored the traditions and history of the game is gone.

In his place is someone out of touch with his fans, out of touch with what he's doing to the league, and no longer focused on just being happy playing ball.

I doubt Windy took very seriously the complaints people had from Akron in a restaurant who have waited on Lebron or been a clerk when he was shopping in a local mall but this is the guy he's always been. Just never to someone as loyal and reliable as Brian.

Sucks. Hope it isn't a sign that he's gone but I'm with Brian that this is not boding well. Lebron is fast becoming the Brett Favre of the NBA.

[rk]

These two on espn are great. "It's all about winning". If it were they would be in Chicago. Wade said it isnt about money and he is willing to take less.

Excuse me...

Has anyone mentioned dollar amounts yet?

If Lebron is going there and announcing tomorrow it might include that he, Wade, and Bosh are all taking less than max to be able to play together.

Not so funny then.

[Ziner]

That is why I added the edit. If Lebron goes they will be taking less and it certainly wont be funny. But really if it wasnt about the money all 3 would be going to join Rose. It's always about the money.

[e0y2e3]

I just posted the money options elsewhere:

http://www.nba.com/2010/news/features/j ... index.html

[e0y2e3]

chadfordinsider: Wade says that they made the decision on Tuesday. Still haven't worked out contract details.

[JCoz]

These two on espn are great. "It's all about winning". If it were they would be in Chicago. Wade said it isnt about money and he is willing to take less.

Excuse me...

Has anyone mentioned dollar amounts yet?

If Lebron is going there and announcing tomorrow it might include that he, Wade, and Bosh are all taking less than max to be able to play together.

Not so funny then.

I'm not saying it isn't POSSIBLE, but the numbers you are talking about make sense for approximately one year bro.

What happens 2 years down the line in that highly unlikely situation, when those three players alone put you into the luxury tax?

They will spend the years only being able to use the MLE/BAE to improve their team along with the draft, not inconceivable that even should they take less than what Miami could even give them as a trio (highly unlikely), that the team be in the luxury tax by 10-15 million in the short term, let alone say in year 4 of their deals....

[British_Pharaoh]

That is why I added the edit. If Lebron goes they will be taking less and it certainly wont be funny. But really if it wasnt about the money all 3 would be going to join Rose. It's always about the money.

This is still my comforting thought


if they were planning to play together then surely it would be in Chicago.

[rk]

Chicago as their best chance is simply not true. Yes they'd get Rose however in Miami they get Pat Riley. And these three are absolutely arrogant enough to believe that they don't need anyone else.

[e0y2e3]

Riley will not coach the team, per Bosh interview w/ Miami Herald.

[Spin]

Bron's not going to Miami. I could never figure out how him and Wade were going to be on the same team. They're too much alike. They're both #1 men. They're both the show.

Bosh wanted to go to Chicago with Bron, the fact he didn't go to Chicago tells me Bron isn't either.

I think it's down to the Amare Knicks, and the Cavs.

[e0y2e3]

Bosh wanted to go to Chicago with Bron, the fact he didn't go to Chicago tells me Bron isn't either.

That is not true at all, Bosh decided on Miami for Wade.

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/20 ... -heat.html

[peeker643]

Breaking News:

sportspickle Chris Duhon to confirm he's signing with the Magic on Fox Sports Southeast tape delay.

You guys are right: this ridiculous shit can be fun.

[Spin]

Wouldn't it be fun to watch the entire NBA shit down their leg...

[Spin]

Bosh says he turned down a S&T to Cleveland because of LeBron's indecision.

What he couldn't wait 36 more hours? He's full of shit. This tells me he knows where Bron is going.

It sure looks like Bron is going to the Knicks now, Bosh could have tagged along anywhere LeBron went, except for the Knicks. Who signed Amare.

Freakin' New York Knicks.

[British_Pharaoh]

Bosh says he turned down a S&T to Cleveland because of LeBron's indecision.

What he couldn't wait 36 more hours? He's full of shit. This tells me he knows where Bron is going.

It sure looks like Bron is going to the Knicks now, Bosh could have tagged along anywhere LeBron went, except for the Knicks. Who signed Amare.

Freakin' New York Knicks.

Why on earth would he go to the Knicks???

It's a step backwards


shit team, incompetent organisation, $30m less guaranteed money

It'd be taking a step backwards


sure it's NY, the biggest market but come one LeBron cannot be stupid enough to be enticed by Bright lights, Big city

[rk]

Bosh says he turned down a S&T to Cleveland because of LeBron's indecision.

What he couldn't wait 36 more hours? He's full of shit.

He is full of shit if you believe what Wade said and Bosh chose first. I believe they are all full of shit.

This tells me he knows where Bron is going.

Not sure why you draw that conclusion.

It could just be true that Bosh, in the end, really didn't want to deal with Lebron for the next 5 to 6 years. He could go to a place with nice beaches, make max money, and maybe get to play with Wade but would certainly be living a better life then he was in Canada.

[peeker643]

So, if I may, this is what we know after weeks of intensive analysis from the best professional NBA writers and their high level sources:

LeBron is going to play to his ego and there will be a decision broadcast on national televison; and

He may go to New York, Miami or stay in Cleveland, but don't count out Chicago.

Keep me informed fellas.



Thanks

[Spin]

What else is there to talk about in Cleveland in early July?

The Tribe is 12.5 out with their best player on the DL. The Browns don't start camp for a few more weeks. Hell even the Gladiators suck this year...

Nuttin else goin on...

[British_Pharaoh]

What else is there to talk about in Cleveland in early July?

The Tribe is 12.5 out with their best player on the DL. The Browns don't start camp for a few more weeks. Hell even the Gladiators suck this year...

Nuttin else goin on...

Germany - Spain ?

[Spin]

Why on earth would he go to the Knicks???

It's a step backwards

shit team, incompetent organisation, $30m less guaranteed money

It'd be taking a step backwards

If he were going to Chicago, Bosh would have gone with him. If he were going to stay in Cleveland Bosh would have agreed to the S&T. He's not going to Miami with DWade, in my eyes. So that leaves NY and Stoud. NY can still build, especially after this year.

Another scenario, Bosh reportedly wanted to go to Chicago with LeBron. But doesn't like Cleveland. Bron is staying, Bosh knows it and says screw you, I'm going with Wade.

[British_Pharaoh]

LeBron doesn't want building for a future Championship

he wants Championship calibre now

Knicks are nowhere near delivering that

Amar'e couldn't help deliver in Phoenix and they have Nash and J-Rich

Knicks right now have Amar'e and Eddy Curry bwahahahaha

[peeker643]

What else is there to talk about in Cleveland in early July?

The Tribe is 12.5 out with their best player on the DL. The Browns don't start camp for a few more weeks. Hell even the Gladiators suck this year...

Nuttin else goin on...

Not talking to you or the people on this board who come here for a diversion and conversation. I'm talking about the assholes whose livelihood is reporting and gathering information. The bottom line being they know nothing more today than they did 4 weeks ago despite the horseshit they threw at the fan for that entire two week period.

[Madre Hill, Superstar]

So that leaves NY and Stoud. NY can still build, especially after this year.

Build with what? The Knicks lost their pick to the Jazz this year, and next year's (and last year's) are owned by the Rockets.

[Spin]

Not through the draft.

On the other hand, a contender like Cleveland can hardly use the draft to build, picking 25-30th every year.

I hope I'm wrong. Thinking worst case scenario here...

[Spin]

I have a strange feeling about this.

The press conference errrrrr LeBronfest is a few miles from the Knicks practice facility.

He scrimmaged against his Cavs friends today at the JAR. One more time, with a happier ending?

The Bosh thing.

Hope I'm just being my pessimistic 44 year old Cleveland fan self...

[Gradysmanldy]

LeBron doesn't want building for a future Championship

he wants Championship calibre now

Knicks are nowhere near delivering that

Amar'e couldn't help deliver in Phoenix and they have Nash and J-Rich

Knicks right now have Amar'e and Eddy Curry bwahahahaha

....and Phoenix had Dragic, Frye, and Grant Hill. Essentially, useful role players.

The big 3 in Boston had Posey, a breakout from Rondo, Perkins, Baby....a bunch of other useful vets and quality bench guys.

The knicks (and heat) have diddly. They will attempt to sign guys at the minimum to fill more than 4-5 spots.

[Larvell Blanks]

....and Phoenix had Dragic, Frye, and Grant Hill. Essentially, useful role players.

The big 3 in Boston had Posey, a breakout from Rondo, Perkins, Baby....a bunch of other useful vets and quality bench guys.

The knicks (and heat) have diddly. They will attempt to sign guys at the minimum to fill more than 4-5 spots.

This is what the media is forgetting. Screamin' A this morning was debating acaller when the caller said the Heat would struggle because they have no one on their roster. SAS just says that the Heat will just sign the other players they need. With what money? They need to fill up 10 roster spots. So players are going to just sign for the league min for the privilege of playing w/ Bosh/Wade?

It's funny how shitty the Cleveland roster suddenly is, when going into the playoffs these same media types were telling us how deep the Cavs roster was and built for a long playoff run. Now, they couldn't lure a Kwame Brown to come play with them.

[jb]

....and Phoenix had Dragic, Frye, and Grant Hill. Essentially, useful role players.

The big 3 in Boston had Posey, a breakout from Rondo, Perkins, Baby....a bunch of other useful vets and quality bench guys.

The knicks (and heat) have diddly. They will attempt to sign guys at the minimum to fill more than 4-5 spots.

This is what the media is forgetting. Screamin' A this morning was debating acaller when the caller said the Heat would struggle because they have no one on their roster. SAS just says that the Heat will just sign the other players they need. With what money? They need to fill up 10 roster spots. So players are going to just sign for the league min for the privilege of playing w/ Bosh/Wade?

It's funny how shitty the Cleveland roster suddenly is, when going into the playoffs these same media types were telling us how deep the Cavs roster was and built for a long playoff run. Now, they couldn't lure a Kwame Brown to come play with them.

First off, I'm sure Kwame woul dlike Las vegas in 3 seasons, so there's that. But more importantly, I am trying to recall this. Ahh, yeas.

Does anyone else wonder what to make of Stern sitting back? Or does he think this player collusion -- call it what it is -- is good for the game?

Or could there be an even more set of stunning developments yet to occur?

“I spent the weekend at my proctologist’s trying to remove the NBA’s 17-foot pole out of my ass.”
-- Pat Riley, after attempts to sign Juwan Howard failed when the NBA rejected the contract offer
(“SportsCenter,” ESPN, 8/12/96)."

[jb]

HanKKKing myself: Dan lebatard was just on TRBS. Says a hailstorm of tampering charges / investigations will be forthecoming. says Riley is Gekko behind Wade's Bud Fox and this has been in the works for weeks if not months. All else has been subtrefuge.

Now given that Stern has a documented history of nailing Riley for whatever reason, I believe that we are just getting warm on the drama.

Stern has never been a milquetoast toward the players. I am surprised at how quiet he has been. Not saying he'd go to bat for Cleveland as we are the Siberia of the NBA no one gives a shit about, but clearly the players are now runnig the Association. The question is will Stern address conrol now or wait until next off seson with the CBA? Will the other owners be happy that the Association is now MLB where only a handful of big market franchises need apply, or will they try to take back the nature of the Association where teams like the Jazz can contend?

[FUDU]

HanKKKing myself: Dan lebatard was just on TRBS. Says a hailstorm of tampering charges / investigations will be forthecoming. says Riley is Gekko behind Wade's Bud Fox and this has been in the works for weeks if not months. All else has been subtrefuge.

Now given that Stern has a documented history of nailing Riley for whatever reason, I believe that we are just getting warm on the drama.

Stern has never been a milquetoast toward the players. I am surprised at how quiet he has been. Not saying he'd go to bat for Cleveland as we are the Siberia of the NBA no one gives a shit about, but clearly the players are now runnig the Association. The question is will Stern address conrol now or wait until next off seson with the CBA? Will the other owners be happy that the Association is now MLB where only a handful of big market franchises need apply, or will they try to take back the nature of the Association where teams like the Jazz can contend?

A tampering scandal will make us look like bitches even more so, not saying I would blame Gilbert for such a claim if he brought it up. Either way regardless of Stern's involvement, this year or next, we would not get LeBron back.

[jb]

HanKKKing myself: Dan lebatard was just on TRBS. Says a hailstorm of tampering charges / investigations will be forthecoming. says Riley is Gekko behind Wade's Bud Fox and this has been in the works for weeks if not months. All else has been subtrefuge.

Now given that Stern has a documented history of nailing Riley for whatever reason, I believe that we are just getting warm on the drama.

Stern has never been a milquetoast toward the players. I am surprised at how quiet he has been. Not saying he'd go to bat for Cleveland as we are the Siberia of the NBA no one gives a shit about, but clearly the players are now runnig the Association. The question is will Stern address conrol now or wait until next off seson with the CBA? Will the other owners be happy that the Association is now MLB where only a handful of big market franchises need apply, or will they try to take back the nature of the Association where teams like the Jazz can contend?

A tampering scandal will make us look like bitches even more so, not saying I would blame Gilbert for such a claim if he brought it up. Either way regardless of Stern's involvement, this year or next, we would not get LeBron back.

I don't think this will be Cleveland-centric, FUDU.

This whole thing is such an unbelieveably shitty precident for the long-term health of the Association IMO. All depends if a) Stern wants to take it on, and B ) if now is the time an dthis is the issue. AFAIC if Sterm is still into it, what better way for the commish and owners to re-assert control over player/agents, agents, and these shady characters colluding thir asses off while the owners can't do likewise that smak-down LeBron James, Dwayne Wade and Pat Riley in one king-hell zeus like lightening bolt.

Keep in mind that no one has submitted a contract to the league office yet.

If this is the same guy who came down on the Howard and Joe Smith chicanery, which is clearely a black cat firecracker to this daisey cutter nuke in comparison, I can't imagine this being the end.

It is an owner / player/aganet power play, not a Clevland issue. And don't forget, NY was dissed in all of this. The horror.

Would be the ultamte power play stage.

[FUDU]

I agree on all counts, was just stating that no matter how much truth you speak and how much it might need to be done, Cleveland somehow or another would come out smelling like a Titan Arum.

[TouchEmAllTime]

Even if they get Bron too, I'm still not sure they beat the Lakers.

[p.b. fan]

As sleazy as the NBA is, the "Lebron Show" on the whore ESPN was the most disgusting, slimey, scumbag thing i ever saw in sports. If james left cause of Delonte, Gilbert, realizing he's Pippen, not Jordan, better coke/sluts in littler havana, or whatever...his behavior is worthy only of contemp. He should ata least given cavs a year's notice so arrangements could have been made. No, he f*****-up this teams for years to come. Caves fans...support the team now or we may lose them in a few years. Lebron--you're sposs'd the win and then wear the crown...you is ass[hole]backwards. Gilbert would have got you the piece you need to win, obviously you know you are not the Guy to win at crunch time...unless you threw the Boston series[which i believe]..Gilbert would have done what it took. Have fun in little havana with your posse,better coke/sluts and hopefully time in jail....you traded your soul for a Ring that only players of Character can wear with pride. no Jordan, Bird, Kobe respect for you,ever, and not only in N.E.Ohio. you fucked up.

[Orenthal]

^Try a rough draft next time.