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Re: The Bucks

Unread postby ajunior148 » Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:46 pm

I disagree with a lot of what you said, but like I said I'm done with it.

One last question though, and I'll give my answer as well. Where do you see him projected out as then?

I'm going to stay with the Felton comp, but a little more PPG because he takes more shots. I will say I'm not as impressed as you that he was calling the sets for his team. That's not a skill that will add very much value over time, and I can't recall any PG's in the league that didn't make it because they couldn't figure out what set to call.

I mean, it's better to be able to learn it now than not, but it's not like it's a benefit for the future.
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Re: The Bucks

Unread postby ajunior148 » Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:54 pm

RickNashEquilibrium wrote:
ajunior148 wrote:This is why discussing stuff with you is pointless. You're like a child. You're completely dishonest when it suits you, and it's pointless.

You use the excuse that the low fg% is because he had to do it all himself, yet you don't consider what having the ball in his hands often did to his assists totals. Why is that?



Its late, and I just got done working on the laptap at the home office so I might be mistaken, but didn't EO pinpoint the fact that his low FG% was more due to the TYPE of shots taken and not being able to finish at the rim rather than "doing it all himself." Smaller cats in the league need to learn HOW to use their bodies more, especially when undersized. Call it "veteran craftiness". Just sayin'.....



They're related anyway, even if he didn't mention it, but he did upthread:

And again, Shooting 38-40% for a rookie w/ no ability to finish and no other scoring options on the team beyond Bogut isn't that big of a deal. Spending two months shooting 30% is.
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Re: The Bucks

Unread postby OldDawg » Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:33 am

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Re: The Bucks

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:24 am

Sweet, so your take breaks down to: his numbers putting him in elite company doesn't matter, Felton was in elite company and didn't workout (again, he was considered a huge prospect after his rookie year and most all of his issues have been mental/being a pussy or injury related), you watching him play the Cavs lets you declare he will never be a good defender even though pretty much every analyst, stat, coach and person out there says differently, and intangibles (read leadership, swag and on the court intelligence) don't matter for PGs (and his intangibles for a 20 year old are what blows most everyone away, being able to command the respect to run the O and D while demonstrating the intelligence to do it in a very complex system in your first year in the league is impressive to everyone that writes, watches or follows hoops, but you).

Sweet take.

Mo Gotti and Felton definitely demonstrated that intangibles don't matter in May of this year.

Your worst take ever, hands down and I've got nothing left to throw at you. You just don't give a fuck because you watched him play the Cavs, he's small and he shot better from three then the field.

Unreal man. Just unreal and you're better than that.

Don't make up takes based off of bullshit you haven't seen or researched, it makes you read like Pros and clearly is an example of you defending an off the cuff take then actually developing an informed opinion.
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Re: The Bucks

Unread postby ajunior148 » Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:26 am

So I take it you aren't going to go on record with what kind of player he is going to end up being?
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Re: The Bucks

Unread postby OldDawg » Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:19 am

UGH! I can't take it any more!
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I keep checking in here to catch any up-to-the-minute scoops and I keep finding you guys carrying on the same argument.
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Re: The Bucks

Unread postby Orenthal » Fri Jul 02, 2010 5:52 pm

It is a thread about the Bucks? An arguement between two people that won't let it go, about a player on the Bucks? What do you really think you will find here that would be an up to the minute scoop that wasn't about the Bucks? They aren't a player in anything remotely related to Cavaliers off season moves...
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Re: The Bucks

Unread postby jb » Fri Jul 02, 2010 6:17 pm

"Hey Pete, whaddaya think about da Bucks?"
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Re: The Bucks

Unread postby ajunior148 » Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:55 pm

Don't look now, but things aren't going to well for the Bucks.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18113
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