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It's Shaw

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:47 am

Closing deal per Sam Amick on Twitter (of Fanhouse).
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Re: It's Shaw

Unread postby Larvell Blanks » Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:09 pm

Not so fast...

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Could be the Cavs organization with holding info for the time being, who knows.
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Re: It's Shaw

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:13 pm

Amick doesn't botch reports and now another report is out there that Shaws agent is confirming.
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Re: It's Shaw

Unread postby Larvell Blanks » Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:51 pm

Windhorst again

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2010/06/brian_shaw_poised_to_be_clevel.html

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Brian Shaw may be close to becoming the Cavaliers next head coach but it is not done yet.

According to sources, Shaw had a positive interview with the team Monday and early Tuesday and he emerged as the frontrunner to replace Mike Brown. Shaw has impressed the Cavs with not only his focus on defense and knowledge of how the triangle offense would work with LeBron James, but also his confidence in dealing with players because of his 14-year history in the league.

But Cavs sources said Tuesday morning that Shaw had not been formally offered the job and was not close to finalizing a contract with the team.

AOL Fanhouse and the Los Angeles Times reported that Shaw was close to accepting the job. The Times quoted Shaw's agent, L.A.-based attorney Jerome Stanley, as saying Shaw was close to an agreement.

The Cavs do want to have a coach in place by Thursday, the start of free agency, and it is likely they want to make the decision today. The signs point to Shaw being that man.


With all the crap that's being put out there, I wanted to wait for someone close to the Cavs to mention it. Like I said earlier, I think it was the Cavs FO trying to keep it quiet so they wouldn't have another Izzo situation.

Good news if this does indeed get done today.
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Re: It's Shaw

Unread postby peeker643 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:51 pm

Shaw a proponent/likely user of the triangle offense? What about Scott? Any info to be gleaned from that?
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Re: It's Shaw

Unread postby Larvell Blanks » Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:53 pm

peeker643 wrote:Shaw a proponent/likely user of the triangle offense?



You betcha! :thumb up:
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Re: It's Shaw

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:53 pm

Yeup, although at this stage in the game defining what exactly the triangle offense is is very difficult.
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Re: It's Shaw

Unread postby motherscratcher » Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:54 pm

I'm not sure this dude's a fit

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Re: It's Shaw

Unread postby peeker643 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:58 pm

A bit aged but....

"In Cleveland's situation, in my mind, the personnel would be ideal," Tex Winter said. Contrary to popular opinion, Winter didn't invent the triangle - or triple-post - offense. He learned it while playing for Sam Barry at USC and perfected it during more than 60 years of coaching in college and as an assistant to Jackson in Chicago and Los Angeles.

Winter is not alone is his assessment. Former Cav Ira Newble, now learning the system with the Lakers, and former Chicago Bull Brad Sellers agree with him.

"If you take LeBron [James] off the ball, he's going to be unstoppable because he's cutting, he's slashing, he's running off curls," Newble said. "He's too big to be guarded. It would take him off the ball and make it tough to double team him ... and if he's not double teamed, he's going to score every time. He can score with a double team. Without a double team, there's nobody on the floor who could guard him. I think that offense would definitely help him."


Fly in the soup alert....

"...the center is sort of the apex in the triangle," Winter said. "That's really our priority pass, our first pass, in the offense in order to penetrate the defense."


Whotf is that center? ;-) ;) :wink:
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Re: It's Shaw

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:58 pm

To be fair the Izzo situation was pushed by the giant hack that is Sam Amico and the WFNY blog.
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Re: It's Shaw

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:00 pm

An alive Z would have been very good in the center of the triangle.

Right now I think we just have to hope Sasha Kaun is the passing big that said O relies on.
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Re: It's Shaw

Unread postby CP » Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:19 pm

I feel better about Shaw than I did about Scott or any of the others (Casey, Woodson, etc). Could Brad Miller with the MLE (or some part of it) be a guy that plays well in the triangle?
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Re: It's Shaw

Unread postby tired » Tue Jun 29, 2010 2:02 pm

CP wrote:I feel better about Shaw than I did about Scott or any of the others (Casey, Woodson, etc). and Brown !
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Re: It's Shaw

Unread postby rk » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:03 pm

PDcavsinsider Sources: the #Cavs will not name a coach today, are not in contract talks with a coach and have not offically offered job to anyone as yet.
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Re: It's Shaw

Unread postby scott » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:32 pm

"In an interview with The Miami Herald in 2007, O'Neal claimed that the teammate he had most respected in his career was Shaw."

Just sayin'. I'd rather see this team not bring back Shaq or Z.
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Re: It's Shaw

Unread postby JCoz » Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:01 pm

I like the few things I have heard about Shaw. In fact it's the only coach that I really liked the idea of getting, save for a Jackson or Brown, but if you thought they were options you might as well have added Poppovich or Wooden.

No idea why some are wanting Scott. The guys burnt out at every stop from what I've read.

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Re: It's Shaw

Unread postby fairvis » Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:38 pm

Shaw is the former player that everyone's been wanting so that the players have respect for him. He's been Phil Jackson's assistant coach for the past 6 seasons (which probably isn't easy). Triangle offense? Better then LeISO, IMHO. Was part of the 2000-2002 Laker three-peat, so he's got the hardware as a player as well as the Kobe back-to-backs this past two years. Was probably waiting for the job with the Lake Show to open up- if he comes here, Phil's going to be around for a bit longer.

Sounds like a winner to me- and someone who wouldn't come over to the Cavs if he hadn't heard some stuff about LeBron sticking around. Why move to Cleveland and coach scrubs when you can stay in LA and coach Kobe in a year or two on the outside? (Sure, Kobe will be nearly done by then, but it's still LA).
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Re: It's Shaw

Unread postby Prosecutor » Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:40 pm

I just hope when they asked him how he would use LeBron in a triangle offense it turns out to be a relevant question.
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Re: It's Shaw

Unread postby peeker643 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:45 pm

Prosecutor wrote:I just hope when they asked him how he would use LeBron in a triangle offense it turns out to be a relevant question.



I'm thinking if they had to ask him how he'd use LeBron in a triangle offense then they got the wrong guy by miles or that he'd walk out of the interview amazed at their stupidity. :thud:
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Re: It's Shaw

Unread postby Orenthal » Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:51 pm

peeker643 wrote:
Prosecutor wrote:I just hope when they asked him how he would use LeBron in a triangle offense it turns out to be a relevant question.



I'm thinking if they had to ask him how he'd use LeBron in a triangle offense then they got the wrong guy by miles or that he'd walk out of the interview amazed at their stupidity. :thud:


I'm sure the question was asked. Don't outsmart the interview process. Answer = See Kobe and Michael. Next question.

How would the triangle work without LeBron? Is the question I would like to hear. During its life in the NBA, or at least while Jackson has used it, he usually had the best or second best player in the league. Early Lakers runs had best center in the league. How does the triangle make the team better, elevate individual players of debatable skill level, to team success? How does it hide weaknesses?

To everything else, :shoulder shrug:. Tired of trying to analyze potential moves, and am ready to move on to rationalizing real ones...
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Re: It's Shaw

Unread postby FUDU » Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:03 pm

For those looking for some info on the triangle offense: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_offense & http://coachingbetterbball.blogspot.com/2008/01/lakers-triangle-offense-re-visited.html aren't bad places to get read up on it.
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Re: It's Shaw

Unread postby jb » Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:28 pm

peeker643 wrote:Shaw a proponent/likely user of the triangle offense? What about Scott? Any info to be gleaned from that?



And ready to feature Jamario Moon in it.

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Re: It's Shaw

Unread postby Orenthal » Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:51 pm

Think of all the feel good features that can be done when Moon becomes the next Stacey Augmon...
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Re: It's Shaw

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:53 pm

Orenthal wrote:Think of all the feel good features that can be done when Moon becomes the next Stacey Augmon...


Are you mentally prepared for Shaq to go to Boston and hold down the starting center spot until Perk is back in Dec/Jan?

It's gonna happen.
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Re: It's Shaw

Unread postby Orenthal » Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:00 pm

I'm ready to to live in Boston...

Cavaliers should feature Shaq when LeBron leaves.

Then get him involved in the casino when he retire. What better attraction.
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Re: It's Shaw

Unread postby Orenthal » Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:19 pm

"When a man with money meets a man with experience, the man with experience leaves with money and the man with money leaves with experience."
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Re: It's Shaw

Unread postby metalhead9x9 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:48 pm

Roda just read a report from Broussard that it's BYRON SCOTT who's in contract negotiations with the Cavs.

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