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by Rat_Tail » Mon Jun 14, 2010 5:35 pm
by aoxo1 » Mon Jun 14, 2010 5:39 pm
by Ziner » Mon Jun 14, 2010 5:45 pm
aoxo1 wrote:That guy is an unfunny turd and he ruined a great concept with his terrible show.
by Cerebral_DownTime » Mon Jun 14, 2010 6:02 pm
by Ziner » Mon Jun 14, 2010 6:08 pm
by aoxo1 » Mon Jun 14, 2010 6:47 pm
Ziner wrote:aoxo1 wrote:That guy is an unfunny turd and he ruined a great concept with his terrible show.
Such a hater. What was the great concept he ruined? Gorging yourself on Food contests? I like the show. If you ever make it to Denver I will be sure to treat you to the 7lb burrito from Jack and Grill.
I finished over half, but I only ordered it to entertain my dad and uncle who were in town and wanted to see it. If I was in the right state of mind I could demolish it.
by aoxo1 » Mon Jun 14, 2010 6:48 pm
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I'd need about 40 bong hits to eat half that burrito.
MvF guy isn't that bad. That DD&D guy is a giant douche of epic proportions.
I'm really really starting to hate the foodie culture sweeping the US right now.
by mattvan1 » Mon Jun 14, 2010 6:52 pm
Cerebral_DownTime wrote: I'm really really starting to hate the foodie culture sweeping the US right now.
by Ziner » Mon Jun 14, 2010 7:03 pm
mattvan1 wrote:Cerebral_DownTime wrote: I'm really really starting to hate the foodie culture sweeping the US right now.
Not a hata yet, but things are getting a bit out of whack - the focus should be on the ingredients and the preparation, not on the brand or celebrity behind it. Rachael Ray can't cook any better than 50% of the people on this board, but she's a vivacious little tart who has stepped out of a Pittsburgh kitchen and into stardom. Some shows I can tolerate, like Top Chef. Man vs. Food is not one, however. Gluttony is not something I want to watch on TV. Teach me how to smoke a salmon fillet, not how to consume 5 pounds of it at a single seating. Food Network pimps it's new channel for weeks - and it turns out to be ESPN Classic - re-runs of shows already off the air. No wonder my sat company provides it for free.
by mattvan1 » Mon Jun 14, 2010 7:10 pm
Ziner wrote:mattvan1 wrote:Cerebral_DownTime wrote: I'm really really starting to hate the foodie culture sweeping the US right now.
Not a hata yet, but things are getting a bit out of whack - the focus should be on the ingredients and the preparation, not on the brand or celebrity behind it. Rachael Ray can't cook any better than 50% of the people on this board, but she's a vivacious little tart who has stepped out of a Pittsburgh kitchen and into stardom. Some shows I can tolerate, like Top Chef. Man vs. Food is not one, however. Gluttony is not something I want to watch on TV. Teach me how to smoke a salmon fillet, not how to consume 5 pounds of it at a single seating. Food Network pimps it's new channel for weeks - and it turns out to be ESPN Classic - re-runs of shows already off the air. No wonder my sat company provides it for free.
I really like Top Chef, but I also like MvF and DDD. I guess I just like to see unique restaurants small time restaurants that they feature on those shows. The personalities of neither show bother that much. Although I think I like Guy Fieri better. Were there shows like those previously? Rachel Ray had some dumb travel show, but it sucked. Oh one other I have gotten in to recently is "The best thing I ever ate". Perhaps I am in the minority though. There is only so many technical cooking shows I can take. Top Chef and Iron Chefs give me all I need.
by Cerebral_DownTime » Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:09 pm
by waborat » Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:36 pm
mattvan1 wrote:
Good call on Best Thing I Ever Ate, especially when Giada practically orgasms when describing hot chocolate. That's something I can always watch.
by swerb » Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:56 pm
by aoxo1 » Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:44 am
by swerb » Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:14 am
aoxo1 wrote:Best show on FN is Good Eats. Very corny humor, best tips on general cooking, and lots of interesting facts.
by waborat » Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:36 am
aoxo1 wrote:Best show on FN is Good Eats. Very corny humor, best tips on general cooking, and lots of interesting facts.

by Spin » Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:21 am
by Larvell Blanks » Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:34 am
by jb » Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:39 pm
by Love child of shawn kemp » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:18 am
jb wrote:All you need is his rib recipe and you're better than any rib joint anywhere. No shit.
by Lubber » Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:06 pm
Love child of shawn kemp wrote:jb wrote:All you need is his rib recipe and you're better than any rib joint anywhere. No shit.
I use Alton Browns rib recipe myself. It is good stuff. I do like to impress others by telling them how I make my own dry rub and braising liquid for the slow cooking. Alton Brown of Good eats almost killed himself in a motorcycle crash filming some crossing europe show for travel channel. They got it on film and showed it of course.
by swerb » Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:38 pm
Love child of shawn kemp wrote:jb wrote:All you need is his rib recipe and you're better than any rib joint anywhere. No shit.
I use Alton Browns rib recipe myself. It is good stuff. I do like to impress others by telling them how I make my own dry rub and braising liquid for the slow cooking. Alton Brown of Good eats almost killed himself in a motorcycle crash filming some crossing europe show for travel channel. They got it on film and showed it of course.
by waborat » Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:08 pm
swerb wrote:Love child of shawn kemp wrote:jb wrote:All you need is his rib recipe and you're better than any rib joint anywhere. No shit.
I use Alton Browns rib recipe myself. It is good stuff. I do like to impress others by telling them how I make my own dry rub and braising liquid for the slow cooking. Alton Brown of Good eats almost killed himself in a motorcycle crash filming some crossing europe show for travel channel. They got it on film and showed it of course.
Only rib recipe I've ever used.
by mattvan1 » Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:29 pm
waborat wrote:Unless you own one of those locomotive size smokies from Texas then AB's is the easiest way for tender baby backs

by Cerebral_DownTime » Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:05 pm
mattvan1 wrote:waborat wrote:Unless you own one of those locomotive size smokies from Texas then AB's is the easiest way for tender baby backs
This is how it's done down here..........
by BruceK » Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:37 pm

by aoxo1 » Thu Jun 17, 2010 10:44 pm

by Boston_butt » Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:09 am
by Cease » Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:15 am

by waborat » Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:45 am
Cease wrote:Boston butt for the win!
Nice throwdown.
by Ziner » Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:33 am
Boston_butt wrote: She is like a big ugly sausage without boobs
by aoxo1 » Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:51 am
by Boston_butt » Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:37 pm
aoxo1 wrote:wabo, I was skeptical too. But as long as it is finished with grilling to give it that nice flavor, the boiling makes the ribs extremely tender. Very similar to sous vide, though obviously not as extreme.
by jb » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:24 pm
mattvan1 wrote:waborat wrote:Unless you own one of those locomotive size smokies from Texas then AB's is the easiest way for tender baby backs
This is how it's done down here..........
by aoxo1 » Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:35 pm
by skatingtripods » Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:06 pm
For the extremely hungry, or extremely daring, the "Chubby Challenge" features a $25 sandwich made up of a full loaf of Italian bread, 2 pounds of meat, a half of a head of lettuce, two full tomatoes, surrounded by a full pound of hand cut fries.
Hungry yet? That's not all.
If you finish the sandwich in under an hour, you get it for free, a free t-shirt and your picture on the "Chubby Challenge" wall of fame.
by waborat » Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:14 pm
skatingtripods wrote:In case any of you want to try a food challenge, this one was posted today on Ch. 5's website.
http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_ ... -challengeFor the extremely hungry, or extremely daring, the "Chubby Challenge" features a $25 sandwich made up of a full loaf of Italian bread, 2 pounds of meat, a half of a head of lettuce, two full tomatoes, surrounded by a full pound of hand cut fries.
Hungry yet? That's not all.
If you finish the sandwich in under an hour, you get it for free, a free t-shirt and your picture on the "Chubby Challenge" wall of fame.
Mackenzie's Grill on W. 150th inside the Holiday Inn.
by Orenthal » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:04 pm
Boston_butt wrote:aoxo1 wrote:wabo, I was skeptical too. But as long as it is finished with grilling to give it that nice flavor, the boiling makes the ribs extremely tender. Very similar to sous vide, though obviously not as extreme.
boiling takes flavor out of the ribs and leaves it in the water. Some of the delicious fats and proteins leech out never to be tasted again. A poor pig gave his life for those ribs, and you're going to boil them? Bah.
Low and slow smoke melts the fats perfectly and keeps them tender while leaving all the flavor in them. Getting rid of some of the water concentrates the flavor, making them more delicious. That is why it is the preferred method
Sous vide is like boiling without ruining the food. Each slab (half a slab) is in it's own bag, and gets to the proper temperature to melt the fat properly to make them tender. But the rub then gets to draw some of the water out of them, concentrating the flavor, and injects all that rub goodness deep into the rib. If you use some smoked salt (never use liquid smoke) you can almost replicate that smoky flavor. And how hard is it to throw some plastic bags in a cooler, and stick a thermometer in there every so often?
In conclusion, never boil ribs, and Giada is not hot. Her over-pronunciation of words out of her giant jack-o-lantern head kills any semblance of hotness for me. It's "ricotta" bitch, if you're going to bring the faux Italian accent to the party, have it stick around for more than a token appearance or two so we can at least pretend to believe it is culturally rooted. And does it scare you when her eyes open up and her smile gets huge when she over-enunciates something? Last time I saw that move was in Jurassic Park, just before Newman got eaten by a dinosaur. One of these days she's going to unhinge that lower jaw and swallow the cameraman like an anaconda. It frightens the s*t out of me.
I do think her horrid cooking keeps her skinny - it encourages her to go puke everything up that she makes after the show to maintain her scrawny body.
by Orenthal » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:10 pm
Boston_butt wrote:Okay, I've lurked here for a while but I feel compelled to post here to set some of this s*t straight. A couple of points:
1) MvF: He does an incredible job of finding the local food legends in a town. Sure, the last piece is often gluttonous, but if you watch it you may actually learn something about the culture of a town. And there is some amazing food he tries before the final challenge. Normal food that normal people eat.
2) Giada: She is not hot. She looks like a Charms Blow Pop with a giant head and a skinny little midget body. Oh, she's annoying and can't cook Italian food to save her life. Mario Batali can cook Italian. Watch his show you'll learn about the different regions of Italy, their cuisine, and the techniques that real Italians use to cook real Italian food. Giada will teach you how to open a f*ing jar of Ragu and grate some surplus government cheese on it.
3) Rachel Ray is an annoying hack. You guys nailed that one. You forgot to mention how ridiculous her body is. She is like a big ugly sausage without boobs and with a FUPA that could smother a man. And she's annoying, in case I didn't mention that already.
4) Guy Fieri is a ridiculous individual, and he is a pathetic poseur of a host. He can cook if you can stomach his fake personality and watch his show. But he'd do the world a favor if he wound up passing out on a train track after one of his nightly benders of smack and man juice.
5) Alton Brown is the man. His show isn't boring, it is educational. Most mouth-breathers in the world can't stomach a little education and therefore mock the nerds and call him boring. Haven't we got past that point in life? For some, apparently not. He is spot on with his techniques, if they do happen to be a little more complicated than necessary.
6) If you ever really want to know how to BBQ and make ribs, turn on PBS and watch Steven Raichlen. He looks like the love child of Bob Ross (the stoned TV painter for those of you under 30 years old) and Phil Jackson, and still insists on grooming himself like a 70s porn star. But his made-for-radio appearance in no way diminishes the fact that he can turn any piece of meat this side of Greg Oden's penis into the tastiest thing you've ever eaten.
Anyway, here's how you make truly great ribs:
Method 1: Go buy a Big Green Egg. 5 hours on a low wood-scented smoke at 200 degrees with a mustard-attached dry rub makes the best ribs ever. Make your own rub by the way - a pinch of cardamom adds a great flavor to a pork rub. In order the ingredients may be salt, brown sugar, pepper, paprika, onion powder, garlic powder, ancho chili, cayenne pepper, and/or dried chipotle pepper.
Method 2: Okay, so you're too cheap to buy a BGE. Some day you'll realize how much you suck and go buy one. Until that day, however, you're still going to need to make ribs. So rub the ribs exactly as above and put them in giant ziploc bags, sealing them in a way to push all the air out of them. Get your beer cooler out of the garage and fill it with hot water so that the temperature in the cooler is about 150 degrees. Use a thermometer, the exact number is important. If you have a thermometer that can monitor the temperature, all the better, otherwise, check every hour. 130 degrees is when bacteria can live, so when it gets to 135, add hot water until it is 145.
Yes, you're cooking your ribs in a beer cooler. Trust me. For those that don't recognize the technique, it is called "sous vide", but we're not spending thousands of dollars here.
Anyway, after 4-10 hours, and really it doesn't matter as long as you monitor the temperature, pull the ribs out and put them on a blazing grill to get a nice crispy on them. They'll be pretty fall-apart when you do this, so take care of them.
If these aren't the best ribs you've ever eaten, then you have no idea what you're talking about.
Oh, and be sure to remove the membrane from the ribs. Don't be that guy that serves the membrane.

by Orenthal » Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:13 pm
by Larvell Blanks » Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:43 am
by Bayou Tribe » Thu Jun 24, 2010 12:38 pm
by jfiling » Thu Jun 24, 2010 4:08 pm
Bayou Tribe wrote:Watched it last night as well, thought it was pretty good. Question though...
Fries on the sandwich, what's the origin of that practice? Is it native specifically to Cleveland or is it a regional thing? Looked great, but he never really went into depth in explaining how this came about. TIA.
by waborat » Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:52 pm
Bayou Tribe wrote:
Fries on the sandwich, what's the origin of that practice? Is it native specifically to Cleveland or is it a regional thing? Looked great, but he never really went into depth in explaining how this came about. TIA.
by hebner20 » Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:52 pm
by waborat » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:04 am
hebner20 wrote:Primanti Brother's in Pittsburgh is known for the fries and cole slaw on the sandwich. They've been around since about the 1920's.
Slyman's has a good corned beef sandwich.
by Fire Marshall Bill » Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:14 am
jb wrote:mattvan1 wrote:waborat wrote:Unless you own one of those locomotive size smokies from Texas then AB's is the easiest way for tender baby backs
This is how it's done down here..........
Looks like FMB's bike.
by hebner20 » Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:22 pm
waborat wrote:hebner20 wrote:Primanti Brother's in Pittsburgh is known for the fries and cole slaw on the sandwich. They've been around since about the 1920's.
Slyman's has a good corned beef sandwich.
Primanti's, that's the one...
BTW, Slyman's has a GREAT corned beef ;-) ;) :wink:

by Larvell Blanks » Sat Jun 26, 2010 4:12 pm
Larvell Blanks wrote:Watched this episode last night. Overall it was meh. All I know is I'm headed down to the WSM and visit Steve's Gyro for sure.
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