Conference Expansion/Reshaping

[JoJo White]

That's pretty good - captured the essence of UT (arrogance) and Aggy (obsession with UT) very well.

[Bayou Tribe]

How long before OU and UT get fed up and leave A&M waiting on the train? I mean, there's way too much on the line for UT to keep dicking around with A&M.

Perry just had a press clip making it seem like he couldn't care less and that he's completely out of this whole situation. I find that hard to believe. It's Texas, it's football, he's an Aggie.

[Triple-S]

Slive: Calm down everyone. Last, but certainly not least, we've got Clemson. What is your interest level at?

Clemson: I'd be all for it. Why not make bring the Chicken Curse completely into the SEC?

South Carolina: Hey man, I beat you last season, and this is our year to win the East. You'll see.

:D. nailed it right there.

http://orangejack.blogspot.com/2004/11/ ... tball.html

Chickens need to be in the sunbelt.

[Bayou Tribe]

[Triple-S]

Will never hear me utter a bad word about A&M, ever. Nicest people in the whole world. saw Varsity's Horns off, saw Varsity's Horns off indeed.

[Larvell Blanks]

[Larvell Blanks]

[jb]

I kind of like the idea (just my speculating) of KU, K State and Mizzou joining NU in the big 10, the 2 texas schools going SEC along with OU. Just seems to maintain a semblance of regioanl flavor. I've always considered Texas as part of the extended south and Kansas and Missouri as extended midwest. i also like the idea of the Kansas schools giving us a hoops infusion. By any objective measure KU is one of the top 5 most histroric and successful basketball programs. Only Induana is close right now, and they are beyond down.

[FUDU]

This whole thing is nuts and IMO getting stupid to the point of possibly ruining part of what is great about the sport.

Just make one giant freakin pot and put all the teams in it, NCAA set the schedules etc.

[Cerebral_DownTime]

This whole thing is nuts and IMO getting stupid to the point of possibly ruining part of what is great about the sport.

Just make one giant freakin pot and put all the teams in it, NCAA set the schedules etc.

The first statement is the goddamn gospel as far as i'm concerned. Money drives people to mess with shit that doesn't need to be fucked with. College football DESTROYS the other major sports.

The second statement would make things more confusing, no?

[aoxo1]

I kind of like the idea (just my speculating) of KU, K State and Mizzou joining NU in the big 10, the 2 texas schools going SEC along with OU. Just seems to maintain a semblance of regioanl flavor. I've always considered Texas as part of the extended south and Kansas and Missouri as extended midwest. i also like the idea of the Kansas schools giving us a hoops infusion. By any objective measure KU is one of the top 5 most histroric and successful basketball programs. Only Induana is close right now, and they are beyond down.

Texas is its own culture, but certainly closer to the South than any other part of the country.

Austin, however, is like Lesotho.

[exiledbuckeye]

I kind of like the idea (just my speculating) of KU, K State and Mizzou joining NU in the big 10, the 2 texas schools going SEC along with OU. Just seems to maintain a semblance of regioanl flavor. I've always considered Texas as part of the extended south and Kansas and Missouri as extended midwest. i also like the idea of the Kansas schools giving us a hoops infusion. By any objective measure KU is one of the top 5 most histroric and successful basketball programs. Only Induana is close right now, and they are beyond down.

Texas is its own culture, but certainly closer to the South than any other part of the country.

Austin, however, is like Lesotho.

Indeed. Every time I dare venture outside of the city limits, I expect to hear banjos.

[dmiles]

We lived in Abilene for 8, and DFW area (H-E-B) for 4 years. My Sister-in-Law in "Collierville" used to always ask us in full southin' drawl, "When are y'all gonna move to the South?".

[exiledbuckeye]

Nebraska to BigTen is official: http://www.omaha.com/article/20100611/N ... he-big-ten

[exiledbuckeye]

Also, Boise State moves from the WAC to become 10th school in the MWC: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5276064

[exiledbuckeye]

Moving quick today. Looks like Texas, Texas Tech, Okie, and Okie State are joining the Pac10. A&M officially remains undecided. http://www.statesman.com/blogs/content/ ... rss_sports

[JoJo White]

I can't imagine the identity crisis that Aggy would endure if they actually bolted for SEC.

Their entire existence revolves around hating and comparing themselves to big brother and without UT, they'd be left with...what? I suppose they'd have to change their school fight song as well.

It's like the obsession Ohio St has with Michigan

[JoJo White]

This perfectly sums up Aggy mindset.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5276668

Another source with knowledge of the situation confirmed to ESPN.com's Andy Katz that Texas A&M was looking at the SEC, but the source said he is convinced the Aggies will end up in the Pac-10.

The source said the SEC consideration was fueled by "ego purposes" within Texas A&M, that the Aggies' power brokers sought distance from the Texas decision and didn't want to convey the appearance they were doing everything because of Texas.

[JCoz]

JoJo, why did you pick that JB quote? Is that hilarious to you, or weird, or what?

Seems fairly whatever to me....

[JoJo White]

JoJo, why did you pick that JB quote? Is that hilarious to you, or weird, or what?

Seems fairly whatever to me....

Mostly busting JB's balls. He's a hata of all things ND, and they're a fairly mediocre football program right now...

[JoJo White]

This MS Paint job from Shaggy Bevo is making its way around the intertubes this morning. If you haven't seen it, I thought it was hysterical and made my morning:

http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/showthr ... n-MS-Paint

[furls]

fucking amazing.

[FUDU]

Freakin awesome.

The more I think about how this is going to ruin much of college football, I'm starting to think it will lead to an official playoff format, inside of 5 years. If so, I'm all for it.

[Cerebral_DownTime]

lol.

My favorite thing about that is heading under the site name and the Colorado fan smoking a joint. Ziner knows, he's a communist dope smoker living in Boulder..

[JoJo White]

The Baylor Bear on the cross is funny on so many levels...

[JoJo White]

Now in youtube format...

[Loo]

Aces

[Ziner]

lol.

My favorite thing about that is heading under the site name and the Colorado fan smoking a joint. Ziner knows, he's a communist dope smoker living in Boulder..

Hell yeah, you missed a bad ass kegger up on the hill last night, to finish off the night we all smoked a bowl and demolished some free-range, fair trade tofurkey subs.

[Cerebral_DownTime]

Tofu doesn't range.

[Ziner]

Tofu doesn't range.

Here it does, Boulder hippies expect only the highest ethical treatment of their bean curd.

[Cerebral_DownTime]

GODDAMN HIPPIES!

[Bayou Tribe]

Here's an interesting way to put yourself in the midst of realignment....

http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/article/2010-06-12/shipping-exec-willing-pay-millions-get-memphis-bcs-conference

[Cerebral_DownTime]

Memphis a BCS team? HAHAHHAAFUCKINGHAAAAAAAAH!

This will be great if they can buy their way into a confrence.

[Bayou Tribe]

This will be great if they can buy their way into a confrence.

It's got Big East written all over it.

[Cerebral_DownTime]

Chip Brown saying Texas is staying in Big (insert number here), Joe Schad saying move to Pac whatever is imminent.

What a fucking mess. If the Big Whatever stays together, can we give Nebraska back?

[Ziner]

Wonder if the Big 10 and Big 12 could swap naming rights and trademarks.

[Cerebral_DownTime]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5284375

The departure of Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State to the Pac-10 is imminent, four sources within the Big 12 said Monday.

One source said commissioner Dan Beebe's last-minute plan to save the conference has "zero" chance to succeed. Another source said it is "very unlikely" to succeed.

Texas' interests in being aligned with the research opportunities and academic missions of Pac-10 schools is driving the decision, along with money.

Beebe's last-ditch plan included an emotional plea about preserving rivalries and maintaining the best welfare of the student-athlete, one source said

report on Orangebloods.com said that Texas is committed to discussions with the remaining 10 schools in the Big 12 about a plan put together by Beebe that would keep the league intact with its current programs.

The plan includes assurances that a TV deal could net each schools between $14 million and $17 million, Orangebloods.com reported, and schools such as Texas could still have their own TV network.

[Bayou Tribe]

If they decide to settle on a 10 team league - 9 conference games and no title game after all the grandstanding this past week, then Texas A&M comes out of this looking like they took their big brother in Austin to the woodshed.

[mattvan1]

If they decide to settle on a 10 team league - 9 conference games and no title game after all the grandstanding this past week, then Texas A&M comes out of this looking like they took their big brother in Austin to the woodshed.

Not quite sure of that. UT gets their own TV Network and the lions share of the money, and the A&M inferiority complex is exposed yet again. Not quite sure that A&M has accomplished anything, except insecurity.

[Bayou Tribe]

If they decide to settle on a 10 team league - 9 conference games and no title game after all the grandstanding this past week, then Texas A&M comes out of this looking like they took their big brother in Austin to the woodshed.

Not quite sure of that. UT gets their own TV Network and the lions share of the money, and the A&M inferiority complex is exposed yet again. Not quite sure that A&M has accomplished anything, except insecurity.

But UT was set up to launch their own network and had a majority revenue share of the Big 12 before all of this anyway, right? Is that not why Nebraska took off in the first place? So why the nod towards the Pac 10 and why haven't they made their move (either way) already? I guess I am a little confused as to why they have to wait around for A&M to make a move?

The Big 12 with 10 teams (about half being football garbage) and no title game is weak. And even though Colorado was bad, at least they brought an additional geographic market that the Big 12 no longer has in their pocket.

[JCoz]

I think the most interesting aspect of this is where this supposed new TV money is coming from, and why was it in said networks best interest to save the Big 12 lite?

[Bayou Tribe]

I think the most interesting aspect of this is where this supposed new TV money is coming from, and why was it in said networks best interest to save the Big 12 lite?

Good point indeed. You're losing a faithfull fanbase in Nebraska and an additional market in Colorado, yet Texas will make additional revenue? And what does OU think about this? Don't they deserve a larger chunk of the change? They're going to be carrying the flag with Texas now.

Either way, if the Big 12 Lite does come through and they move forward with 10 teams, Iowa State and Baylor are going to pop a bottle like it's nobody's business.

[JCoz]

I think the most interesting aspect of this is where this supposed new TV money is coming from, and why was it in said networks best interest to save the Big 12 lite?

Good point indeed. You're losing a faithfull fanbase in Nebraska and an additional market in Colorado, yet Texas will make additional revenue? And what does OU think about this? Don't they deserve a larger chunk of the change? They're going to be carrying the flag with Texas now.

Either way, if the Big 12 Lite does come through and they move forward with 10 teams, Iowa State and Baylor are going to pop a bottle like it's nobody's business.

I thought that the big player in the Pac16 was Fox, and I also thought that is who WAS paying for the B12 already, anyone confirm?

If true, WTF would they nix the Pacten move for?

I've seen speculation that ESPN/ABC was chipping in to nix the Pac16 net mostly, not sure that I buy into that yet.

It depends on where exactly you see these conference nets going in the next 10 years.

It's certainly true that ESPN/ABC bent over backwards to stop the SEC from forming a network, so there is precedence for this...

[mattvan1]

If they decide to settle on a 10 team league - 9 conference games and no title game after all the grandstanding this past week, then Texas A&M comes out of this looking like they took their big brother in Austin to the woodshed.

Not quite sure of that. UT gets their own TV Network and the lions share of the money, and the A&M inferiority complex is exposed yet again. Not quite sure that A&M has accomplished anything, except insecurity.

But UT was set up to launch their own network and had a majority revenue share of the Big 12 before all of this anyway, right? Is that not why Nebraska took off in the first place? So why the nod towards the Pac 10 and why haven't they made their move (either way) already? I guess I am a little confused as to why they have to wait around for A&M to make a move?

The Big 12 with 10 teams (about half being football garbage) and no title game is weak. And even though Colorado was bad, at least they brought an additional geographic market that the Big 12 no longer has in their pocket.

Good points. However

Texas A&M has been in deep discussions with the SEC and as of Saturday night had enough votes on its Board of Regents to join the SEC (believed to be 6-3).

But the dissenting votes on A&M's regents board are apparently passionate about keeping Texas and A&M together and not breaking up a 100-year rivalry by having the schools head to different leagues.

Sources say SEC commissioner Mike Slive was in College Station Saturday. Sources close to the situation say A&M has an invitation to the SEC if it wants it. The SEC has also been doggedly pursuing Oklahoma.

Bottom line is that the Ags had what they wanted (to get out from under the shadow of big bro) and, in the end, blinked.

[aoxo1]

How much does the supposedly crappy tv deal and the unequal revenue distribution have to do with the extended fall (until last year) of Nebraska and Colorado's complete ineptitude?

If those are problems, and Texas is going to make things worse by creating their own TV network, the Big 12 will just continue to get worse outside of Austin and maybe Norman.

[mattvan1]

How much does the supposedly crappy tv deal and the unequal revenue distribution have to do with the extended fall (until last year) of Nebraska and Colorado's complete ineptitude?

If those are problems, and Texas is going to make things worse by creating their own TV network, the Big 12 will just continue to get worse outside of Austin and maybe Norman.

Agreed. It simply delays the inevitable. No way B12 goes without a conference championship game for long - they will need to add teams and re-form or split up sometime down the road

[JoJo White]

I'm speechless, so I guess I'm physically unable to meltdown too much at today's news.

Fortunately, 99% of Horn fans are picking up my slack...

http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/forumdi ... 7-Football

[Bayou Tribe]

Found this on another message board.....

[Cerebral_DownTime]

Ahahahahaahha.... This is so fucking funny. What a waste of time.

Let Nebraska and Colorado return to the Big 12 and get some of that new TV money.

[Bayou Tribe]

Ahahahahaahha.... This is so fucking funny. What a waste of time.

Let Nebraska and Colorado return to the Big 12 and get some of that new TV money.

Why would Nebraska want to go back? So they can do this whole thing over 5 years from now?