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by Spin » Sun May 16, 2010 12:27 pm
by SoulDawg74 » Sun May 16, 2010 12:34 pm
Doc wrote:You can't not want the guy back. I mean, he's the best shot we got. I'm as pissed about what happened in the last few games as anyone, and like many above, it'd be very hard to forget him for all of that. Dogging it in a game, a playoff game, is unacceptable. But, as much as I hate what happened, he's our best shot.That being said...F the whole circus that's about to happen. I dislike Woj, but that piece from Friday was big for me. I want no part of some Coach Cal power-trip that LeBron could force. The whole idea of getting rid of Brown is to bring in someone who's got a clue how to coach. We've seen 7 years of LBJ getting just about whatever he wanted around here. Within reason, of course, because there's only so much TBO could do. And obviously adding payroll isn't an issue. I guess I'm in the fucked with him, fucked without him camp. Obviously, the team doesn't get better losing him, even in a best-case sign-and-trade scenario (and the likelihood of an S&T isn't all that high to begin with). But, after what I saw this week, I can't honestly say that I have that same belief I used to have, that he could get us to the ring. If he quit (and I'm hoping he didn't, but I saw what everyone else did), can you commit to a deal on his terms and know that kind of attitude won't show up again? Do you fellate the guy all summer and give him everything he could want just so he can bring in a coach he's already tight with?I mean, this is a legit discussion. I don't know how true the Calipari rumors are, but if they are, is it worth it to keep him? Do the Cavs play hardball with him and say No to Calipari? Do they have that kind of leverage? That's what I'm most afraid of. Cleveland's only draw in keeping him (besides a higher max deal if he wants max years) is Gilbert's bankroll and willingness to do whatever LBJ wants. That scares the piss out of me. And I think that this decision is where everything hinges. The ONLY way Cleveland keeps him now, in my humblest of opinions, is to give LBJ free reign on bringing in his guy as coach. And that's a scary proposition right now.There's a huge part of me that wants to see him in Chicago or in NY with Wade/Bosh. I want to see him with another star, and I want to see how he does. Frankly, I'm not sure what happens. He's not going to get that here unless we get really creative. I don't know, trying to stay out of the emotional aspect of a response. But how can't you get emotional on this? We watched our 1 shot at a title in this city dog it this series. That hurts. And in seeing 7 years of LeBron here, I know we're never going to get a straight answer about what happened. So, am I supposed to assume that a new coach is just going to make everything better for him? What happens when Calipari doesn't get us a title? Bron gonna throw him under the bus, too? Or what if we bring in Phillip or Larry Brown? Does LeBron run and hide if a coach finally grows a pair and doesn't deal with LBJ's shit? I think these are all very legit questions. Amazing how 2 games can change your perspective on a guy so much. But they have. The whole city feels it. It's like a fucking soap opera already. Just wait until July.
by SoulDawg74 » Sun May 16, 2010 12:48 pm
HoodooMan wrote:SoulDawg74 wrote:Then again maybe we got nothing to worry about and this was to Crucify Brown, and get his way like Kobe forced out Shack in LA.SoulDawgOK SD, but if this is the case then who do you think his top HC choices would be?!?!11!!?!?!!Calipari said he's staying at UK!!!!!11!2!!!!!
SoulDawg74 wrote:Then again maybe we got nothing to worry about and this was to Crucify Brown, and get his way like Kobe forced out Shack in LA.SoulDawg
by hermanfontenot » Sun May 16, 2010 2:10 pm
You can't not want the guy back.
I mean, he's the best shot we got.
by Triple-S » Sun May 16, 2010 2:35 pm
hermanfontenot wrote:I'm sure Magic fans thought the world was coming to an end when Shaq skipped town too. Shockingly, the sun continued to rise in the morning and eventually they put another championship-caliber team in Orlando. Which is what would happen here. Might take a few years, but it would happen.
Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.
by tired » Sun May 16, 2010 2:37 pm
by GodHatesClevelandSport » Sun May 16, 2010 2:39 pm
by FUDU » Sun May 16, 2010 2:48 pm
by hermanfontenot » Sun May 16, 2010 2:51 pm
FUDU wrote:I can respect Spin's POV more, in the sense somebody wants to at least know what happened and why before making their final judgment on wanting him to stay or go now.
by FUDU » Sun May 16, 2010 2:55 pm
hermanfontenot wrote:FUDU wrote:I can respect Spin's POV more, in the sense somebody wants to at least know what happened and why before making their final judgment on wanting him to stay or go now.Spin's POV is that anyone born and raised in Akron shits rose petals.My point is that we can survive LeBron James defecting. It can be done. It would take some bottom-feeding for a while but if we make the right decisions we'll be back, and we could be better. We can't put ourselves in a position where this guy is the be-all, end-all. He is not.
by hermanfontenot » Sun May 16, 2010 2:57 pm
FUDU wrote:Sure, I can agree with that, but your overall reaction to the situation at hand reads as way more subjective toward a very small sample size of LeBron, with little to no knowledge of what transpired.
by FUDU » Sun May 16, 2010 3:03 pm
hermanfontenot wrote:FUDU wrote:Sure, I can agree with that, but your overall reaction to the situation at hand reads as way more subjective toward a very small sample size of LeBron, with little to no knowledge of what transpired."Little to no knowledge of what transpired?" I saw what transpired, Donny, and so did you. So did all of us.
by waborat » Sun May 16, 2010 3:16 pm
by daddywags » Sun May 16, 2010 3:43 pm
by Madre Hill, Superstar » Sun May 16, 2010 4:05 pm
FUDU wrote:What happened and why? LeBron didn't show up, I've said it 30 times this week, but why? I don't buy the elbow as significant, but IDK & who does, so why did it go down that way Herm?
by motherscratcher » Sun May 16, 2010 5:00 pm
hermanfontenot wrote:Even better, we could build a team with character, one we could be proud of. Not a one-man show directed by a 25-year old punk with a passel of sleazoid advisors and a crackhead cunt of a mother.
by GodHatesClevelandSport » Sun May 16, 2010 5:20 pm
by Madre Hill, Superstar » Sun May 16, 2010 5:22 pm
GodHatesClevelandSport wrote:Well, looks like we have an explanation now.Boston is really, really good.
by Orenthal » Sun May 16, 2010 5:25 pm
by Spin » Mon May 17, 2010 4:13 pm
hermanfontenot wrote:Spin's POV is that anyone born and raised in Akron shits rose petals.
by Spin » Mon May 17, 2010 4:18 pm
by waborat » Mon May 17, 2010 6:15 pm
Spin wrote:For those who have never seen a true point guard in the Ferry regime, here's the definition: Point guard (PG), also called the play maker or "the ball-handler", is one of the standard positions in a regulation basketball game. A point guard has perhaps the most specialized role of any position – essentially, they are expected to run the team's offense by controlling the ball and making sure that it gets to the right players at the right time. Above all, the point guard must totally understand and accept his or her coach's game plan; in this way, the position can be compared to a quarterback in American football.
by Spin » Mon May 17, 2010 6:55 pm
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