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by jfiling » Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:48 pm
by Cerebral_DownTime » Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:40 pm
Bottom line? As the Web site's motto reads, "Free minds and free markets." In other words, move out of the way, government. In a town like Cleveland, with big government bureaucracies, cumbersome regulations and old-school unions, the series argues, it's no wonder times are so tough.
by Stu » Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:56 am
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Yeah times are tough in Cleveland because of Unions and Regulations.
by Toxicadam » Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:37 am
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by aoxo1 » Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:19 am
by davemanddd » Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:44 am
aoxo1 wrote:What's Drew's plan for fixing the weather?
by mattvan1 » Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:52 am
Toxicadam wrote: But history has shown that white people always move away. It's intrinisic to their DNA. They moved away from Europe when shit got tough. They moved away from the Eastern seaboard when the cities became overpopulated. They moved away from the midwestern industrial cities as they prospered and now they are totally abandoning them as the jobs are drying up.
by Ziner » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:02 pm
by Bayou Tribe » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:37 pm
Ziner wrote:Black people can't be QuarterbacksWhite people can't handle tough situations
by Spin » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:38 pm
Trying hard to follow you here and not jump to conclusions, but I'm lost. It's not a white, black, brown thing, it's a human condition thing.
by mattvan1 » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:47 pm
Spin wrote:Trying hard to follow you here and not jump to conclusions, but I'm lost. It's not a white, black, brown thing, it's a human condition thing.So the fact that the city of Cleveland is now 54% black, and the population of surrounding areas like Medina County and mushrooming is just a coincidence?
by Spin » Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:20 pm
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by jb » Thu Mar 18, 2010 3:19 pm
Spin wrote:Well I agree with you on that. It's not a matter of white people leaving when the going gets tough. There are a lot of reasons to leave Cleveland...
by jb » Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:03 pm
jfiling wrote:If any of the people who have commented without actually watching any of the videos watches just one, I hope the next is the one. It involves the West Side Market and Cleveland's municipal golf courses, among other interesting ideas.
by jfiling » Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:24 pm
JB wrote:jfiling wrote:If any of the people who have commented without actually watching any of the videos watches just one, I hope the next is the one. It involves the West Side Market and Cleveland's municipal golf courses, among other interesting ideas.Hey, I'm all for privitizing stuff like parking, golfing and the WSM. It should help those micro-issues and what was considered rogressive in 1905 can probably step aside if the city is losing menoy on these enterprises.But these are the "innovative solutions" that are going to "save Cleveland" ?I'll keep watching with an open mind becasue this is interetsing, but they need to step the game up.
by jb » Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:31 pm
jfiling wrote:OK, apparently the first one was just the introduction. Here's today's episode, fixing Cleveland's schools.
by jfiling » Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:43 pm
by Orenthal » Sat Mar 20, 2010 9:55 am
JB wrote:jfiling wrote:OK, apparently the first one was just the introduction. Here's today's episode, fixing Cleveland's schools.Good segment, but they never quite come out and makie it plain, do they?Private , praochial, good charter schools work consistently for 3 reasons, regardles of SES.1. They can kick bad students out. If you are a screw up, ur gone. End of story. Public schools have to dance around with the idiots. Privates just kick them out to public schools. problems solved.2. They can hire and fire teachers as they wish. Period. You want to mail it in as a burn out or you are a poor teacher? Buh-bye. No union.3. By virue of tuition or mandate, parents / families are involved and comitted to their kids' education. There is nothing that any school or teacher can do whatsoever to make a difference if the student is apathetic becasue the family is apathetic. Everything else is a non-starter.You can dress it up any way you want and use buzzwords like "educational entrepreneurship" or make public school kids wear uniforms, or decrease the sze of schools. You can close underperforming schools. Doesn't matter. Until those three elemnts are in place, you got nothing.It really is just that simple.
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