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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:42 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:
Which is silly and being done just because of the effing Dark Knight.


That's pretty dead on.
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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby motherscratcher » Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:43 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
I said a ton of money makes it not "fucking aweful"...


Have you seen Transformers 1 and 2?

Listen, i'm not slamming people who liked Avatar. People like different things, and that's great. I just thought the movie was an overhyped POS.


I was agreeing with the "ton of maney makes it not aweful" take.

But damn if it isn't hard to argue with that Transformers take CDT.


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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:52 pm

People went apeshit about it not getting a nomination last year and that really pushed the expansion to ten nominees, IMO.

I mean people went APESHIT (meaning the general public, as it was the pop culture hit of the year last year and the movie all the idiots were talking about being the defining movie of our generation, much like Avatar this year).

I actually thought the Dark Knight was a decent movie. Not worthy of an Oscar by any means, but very solid. 100x more interesting than most crap that people go insane about.
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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby motherscratcher » Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:57 pm

I did not know that. Makes sense, though.

I'm with you on the Dark Knight. I feel about that movie the way Vincent Vega felt about Uma Thurman's $5 milkshake.
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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby Triple-S » Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:02 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:Biggest reason it seems watered down is the ten nominees.


Really didn't consider that, but I think that you may have a point there.

Probably it's just from my perspective, in middle-america you don't exactly get stuck with some of the good movies that you probably have more of an advantage in seeing.

And part of it, maybe it's just me, from my personal. perspective it wasn't a very good year. I'm sure something like the "Up in the air" would be a great movie for someone like you, it was probably pretty well done, and I can see why it would be nominated, but to me it's not as appealing.
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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby waborat » Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:07 pm

Motherscratcher wrote:
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
I said a ton of money makes it not "fucking aweful"...


Have you seen Transformers 1 and 2?

Listen, i'm not slamming people who liked Avatar. People like different things, and that's great. I just thought the movie was an overhyped POS.


I was agreeing with the "ton of maney makes it not aweful" take.

But damn if it isn't hard to argue with that Transformers take CDT.




I was actually thinking about Transformers when I wrote my piece...

Never owned one, played with one, Never saw the films, never will...

Was kinda hoping CD wouldn't go there ;-) ;) :wink:
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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby waborat » Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:17 pm

Triple-S wrote:was not a good year for movies. let's face it.



I actually thought it wasn't too bad from what I've seen so far:

Up
Julie & Julia
Drag Me To Hell
Angels & Demons
Food, Inc.
The Taking Of Pelham 123
State Of Play
Frozen River
I Love You, Man
Gran Torino
Defiance
Taken
Watchmen
Inglorious Basterds
Avatar
The Hurt Locker
District 9
Up In The Air
Saw VI
Public Enemies
Adventureland
Harry Potter & The Half-Blood Prince
Terminator: Salvation

I wouldn't recommend em all, but Pretty solid year overall
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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby mattvan1 » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:21 am

Triple-S wrote: Probably it's just from my perspective, in middle-america you don't exactly get stuck with some of the good movies that you probably have more of an advantage in seeing.


Not sure I follow, SSS. It's two thousand and fucking ten. What film will e0y2e3 see in Boston that you can't eventually view in West Lafayette, Indiana? Unless it's the director's cut of Good Will Hunting?
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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby Triple-S » Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:22 am

mattvan1 wrote:
Triple-S wrote: Probably it's just from my perspective, in middle-america you don't exactly get stuck with some of the good movies that you probably have more of an advantage in seeing.


Not sure I follow, SSS. It's two thousand and fucking ten. What film will e0y2e3 see in Boston that you can't eventually view in West Lafayette, Indiana? Unless it's the director's cut of Good Will Hunting?


Easy example on that.

I don't recall "Big Fan" ever making it around here. I know thats just one movie, but I'm sure it's not the first movie like that has not shown up in theaters in small town usa.
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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby mattvan1 » Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:11 am

Triple-S wrote:Easy example on that.

I don't recall "Big Fan" ever making it around here. I know thats just one movie, but I'm sure it's not the first movie like that has not shown up in theaters in small town usa.


:bunny: Does the whole "I can rent or buy DVDs without getting my slack ass off my couch" thing escape you? Yes, dude. We understand that at it's "height" Big Fan never made it to theaters off either coast. It did get to DVD and your local video store/Netflix in January, however. 2010. Technology. New business models, etc.
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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby waborat » Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:32 am

mattvan1 wrote:
Triple-S wrote:Easy example on that.

I don't recall "Big Fan" ever making it around here. I know thats just one movie, but I'm sure it's not the first movie like that has not shown up in theaters in small town usa.


:bunny: Does the whole "I can rent or buy DVDs without getting my slack ass off my couch" thing escape you? Yes, dude. We understand that at it's "height" Big Fan never made it to theaters off either coast. It did get to DVD and your local video store/Netflix in January, however. 2010. Technology. New business models, etc.


Brody's got some real nice copies ;-) ;) :wink:
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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby waborat » Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:25 am

Mitch wrote:
olecowboy wrote:Don't know why anyone would consider Up In The Air; it was just Danny Ocean firing people, nothing else to see. . .

:pop:


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Finally got to see this the other night...

AWESOME!!!

I put it right there with Basterds as the best of last year...

Hey Hollywood, more movies like these 2 please
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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby mrburns » Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:22 am

waborat wrote:Brody's got some real nice copies ;-) ;) :wink:


Props for the best obscure Seinfeld reference I've read so far today.
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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby jb » Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:51 am

e0y2e3 wrote:People went apeshit about it not getting a nomination last year and that really pushed the expansion to ten nominees, IMO.

I mean people went APESHIT (meaning the general public, as it was the pop culture hit of the year last year and the movie all the idiots were talking about being the defining movie of our generation, much like Avatar this year).

I actually thought the Dark Knight was a decent movie. Not worthy of an Oscar by any means, but very solid. 100x more interesting than most crap that people go insane about.



nahh.

It was one-sided propaganda Dick Cheney would be proud of; a movie about public paranoia and the desire for some sort of deus ex mechina to be the messiah of justice that eludes the temporal world.

Plus Christain bale is aweful. Just wooden. Plus, in the end, it is about blowing crud up and a guy in a fakking rubber suit. Meaning of life in that? Really?

Up In The Air was the best picture of the year, but Clooney doesn't apparently rate as royalty yet. Little blue men and dncing CGI shit with a plot that is a mixture of DWW and Pocahontas was seriously consideered?Really Hollywood?

Hurt Locker was really good. But Up in the Air was better. YMMV.
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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby Guest » Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:13 pm

JB wrote:

nahh.

It was one-sided propaganda Dick Cheney would be proud of; a movie about public paranoia.

Plus Christain bale is aweful. Just wooden.

Up In The Air was the best picture of the year, but Clooney doesn't apparently rate as royalty yet. Little blue men and dncing CGI shit with a plot that is a mixture of DWW and Pocahontas was seriously consideered?Really Hollywood?

Hurt Locker was really good. But Up in the Air was better. YMMV.


Rewatched The Hurt Locker with Clarissa this weekend, and I'm not really sure what bug was up my ass when I gave it a 3 1/2.

By far the second best film of the year, just slightly below Up in the Air.

For Avatar...I'll still say that it was worthy of a nomination...nothing more. Same as Jaws, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Star Wars, and Jurassic Park should probably receive nominations based on how cutting edge they were and how entertaining they were...but they weren't Best Pictures of their year, or any year.

Don't get me wrong, I love being entertained, and Avatar blew me away in that regard. But Best Picture needs to be about much more than the Wow Factor. I want a great story, great characters, great chemistry, great cinematagraphy, and a great job of direction.

Up in the Air and Hurt Locker were the only two films that gave us that.
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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby e0y2e3 » Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:19 pm

You just hurt The Basterds feelings Mitch.
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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby jb » Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:53 pm

Mitch wrote:
JB wrote:

nahh.

It was one-sided propaganda Dick Cheney would be proud of; a movie about public paranoia.

Plus Christain bale is aweful. Just wooden.

Up In The Air was the best picture of the year, but Clooney doesn't apparently rate as royalty yet. Little blue men and dncing CGI shit with a plot that is a mixture of DWW and Pocahontas was seriously consideered?Really Hollywood?

Hurt Locker was really good. But Up in the Air was better. YMMV.


Rewatched The Hurt Locker with Clarissa this weekend, and I'm not really sure what bug was up my ass when I gave it a 3 1/2.

By far the second best film of the year, just slightly below Up in the Air.

For Avatar...I'll still say that it was worthy of a nomination...nothing more. Same as Jaws, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Star Wars, and Jurassic Park should probably receive nominations based on how cutting edge they were and how entertaining they were...but they weren't Best Pictures of their year, or any year.

Don't get me wrong, I love being entertained, and Avatar blew me away in that regard. But Best Picture needs to be about much more than the Wow Factor. I want a great story, great characters, great chemistry, great cinematagraphy, and a great job of direction.

Up in the Air and Hurt Locker were the only two films that gave us that.



Right with you, lock step.

Hurt Locker actually grew on me the longer I watched it. It is subjective, but I thought Up In the Air was alot more introspective and accessible for most as how many of us will blow up IED's vs being caught in the human condiation and looking back at life choices?

In the end, Hurt Locker won for politics. t was a great industry story for the ex-couple to compete and it broke the gender glass ceiling. Isn't that waht the awards are now? A way to jump-stat the sumer movie seson?
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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby Guest » Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:47 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:You just hurt The Basterds feelings Mitch.


Close third for Quentin and crew. When you list all of the "Great" items I had above, I don't think "great chemistry" was in this film, so that's why it only gets a "show", a couple of noses behind the other two.

Actually, Basterds is another movie that jumped a half-football after I watched it a second time, as it got a 3 1/2 in the original review.

Happens a lot. I fully expect Avatar to drop a notch on second viewing, same with Invictus. That's the problem with movie critics. Sometime's we're just in a shitty mood going in, and unless the film blows us away, it's going to pay hell for it (which might be relevant to my review yesterday of Alice in Wonderland...we shall see). Other times, a not-so good movie finds a little hook that suckers me in, and I rate it higher than I should. (WALL-E...for JB's sake. Watchmen is probably another). Plus if I've been gagging on shitty movies for a couple of months, I tend to overrate the first good film I see (which is why Invictus got 4 footballs).
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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby jb » Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:05 pm

Mitch wrote:
e0y2e3 wrote:You just hurt The Basterds feelings Mitch.


Close third for Quentin and crew. When you list all of the "Great" items I had above, I don't think "great chemistry" was in this film, so that's why it only gets a "show", a couple of noses behind the other two.

Actually, Basterds is another movie that jumped a half-football after I watched it a second time, as it got a 3 1/2 in the original review.

Happens a lot. I fully expect Avatar to drop a notch on second viewing, same with Invictus. That's the problem with movie critics. Sometime's we're just in a shitty mood going in, and unless the film blows us away, it's going to pay hell for it (which might be relevant to my review yesterday of Alice in Wonderland...we shall see). Other times, a not-so good movie finds a little hook that suckers me in, and I rate it higher than I should. (WALL-E...for JB's sake. Watchmen is probably another). Plus if I've been gagging on shitty movies for a couple of months, I tend to overrate the first good film I see (which is why Invictus got 4 footballs).



Again, right with you on Basterds. Really liked elements of it & it was a very good film. Just not my fav.
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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby Ziner » Sun Mar 21, 2010 11:29 pm

Just watched Hurt Locker last night (yeah I know a little late). I found it pretty damn lackluster. Can't really put my finger on it. Just very blah. Didnt hate it, but Up in the Air was MUCH more interesting.
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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby Bill the Butcher » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:43 pm

Just saw The Hurt Locker. Meh.

I'm pretty sure I even heard/read somebody say it was one of the best war films to recent date. False. I thought it was good. Very Jarhead-esque. Didn't care for that film at all either.

How did this win Best Picture in 2010 and not Saving Private Ryan (which is lightyears better) in '98? Speaking of, Shakespeare in Love winning Best Picture in '98 over SPR is one of this country's greatest tragedies. Right up there with the internment of Japanese-American citizens during WWII and "Federal" Reserve Bank.
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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby motherscratcher » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:48 pm

Agree. Saw it a few weeks ago. It's not that Hurt Locker was bad by any stretch, but Best Picture? Don't see that. Although I don't know what would have appropriately won in it's stead. I don't see many films in the theater anymore so I'm woefully behind.

Beat the crap out of Angels and Demons or Public Enema's, though. Those are the most recent 2 movies I've found the time to see.
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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby swerb » Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:34 pm

Got Hurt Locker on top my DVD player waiting to be watched ... but the feedback I've heard mirrors what I've read in here. As I see all these films, its seeming like 2009 was a weak year for movies. Some good ones to be sure, but no elite ones, and a weak class of Best Pic nominees ... kinda like the year Crash won IMO.

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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby peeker643 » Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:41 pm

swerb wrote:Got Hurt Locker on top my DVD player waiting to be watched ... but the feedback I've heard mirrors what I've read in here. As I see all these films, its seeming like 2009 was a weak year for movies. Some good ones to be sure, but no elite ones, and a weak class of Best Pic nominees ... kinda like the year Crash won IMO.

Best 09 film I've seen, by far, has been Up in the Air.


Liked Up in the Air, liked Hurt Locker a bit more. I'm a war movie junkie if the movie is well done and I thought it was.

Loved how dude could walk into a crowded street never knowing who had the magic cell phone and take apart a jury-rigged soup sandwich of a bomb yet couldn't choose (or didn't want to choose) a cereal back home in a grocery store. Just thought it was solid.

But like you said, weak year for BP nominees. Which is why I don't think you can compare winners from year to year. Not to mention it just doesn't matter to me in regard to awards. I enjoy (if that's the right word) Saving Private Ryan as much as any movie I've ever watched. Couldn't even tell ya what film won the award that year.
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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby mitch » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:10 pm

NEVER compare Best Picture winners...or worse, Best Picture nominees, from year to year.

You're right, 2009 wasn't great. Avatar will be the movie most remembered 25 years from now, while Up In the Air, Hurt Locker, and Inglourious Basterds will be viewed as very good movies. I'm not sure which will age better. Probably Hurt Locker, although if the economy keeps sucking for another 3 - 5 years, Up In the Air may be something like a "Grapes of Wrath" (OK...probably a bit of hype there). Could just be that Tarantino's latest becomes a classic in its own right, just like Pulp Fiction.

But it's probably just a pendulum swing. Look at 2007. Juno, Michael Clayton, Sweeney Todd, No Country for Old Men, There Will Be Blood. And that's not counting smaller movies that I thought kicked ass; Once, Eastern Promises and The Lives of Others.

2006? The Departed, hands down, but you also had Children of Men (sorry, Swerb), Babel, Letters from Iwo Jima, and The Queen.

2005 did see a less than great movie win. Crash was good, and was different, but it wasn't really Best Picture quality. On the other hand, it won because too many people didn't buy the hype about Brokeback Mountain. I would have been PISSED had that won, and it certainly has nothing to do with being homophobic...it was just a crappy movie made by a crappy director. I still personally think that Spielberg got robbed, and Munich should have won. I could have also dealt with Good Night and Good Luck or The History of Violence winning.

I thought 2004 was even worse, as I really just didn't get the 'greatness' of Million Dollar Baby. But frankly, there wasn't that much else that year. When "Sideways" is in my top 5 for the year, you know it's a weak year.

Then you have 2003. You got to feel sorry for GREAT movies like Mystic River and Lost in Translation, as they had no chance going up against The Return of the King.

But the biggest travesty does remain Shakespeare In Love beating Saving Private Ryan. Spielberg wouldn't campain, while Harvey Wienstein is the ultimate attention whore...which resulted in the biggest joke in Oscar history, AFAIC.

I'm right now just hoping 2010 isn't WORSE than 2009...because this year has sucked so far. Worst year I've seen since I started writing here.
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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby Erie Warrior » Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:06 am

mitch wrote:But the biggest travesty does remain Shakespeare In Love beating Saving Private Ryan.


This had not occurred to me. A tramashamockery, for certain. I was discussing with a friend the merits of SPR as the best movie ever. One could make a case.
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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby waborat » Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:51 pm

swerb wrote:Best 09 film I've seen, by far, has been Up in the Air.


2nd best for me after Basterds...

Actually got Up & State Of Play pretty close to Hurt Locker, but HL was pretty damn good
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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby swerb » Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:01 pm

After seeing Hurt Locker and Inglorious Basterds ... Im starting to come around a little on the '09 crop of films. Enjoyed both a lot.

Basterds was awesome. My movie of the year. Had it sitting on top my DVD player for like a month, wasn't motivated to see it ... knew about 20 min in it was gonna be a classic.
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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby waborat » Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:40 am

swerb wrote:
Basterds was awesome. My movie of the year.


:cheers:
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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby jerryroche » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:34 am

Two very good adult movies out in 2010 so far: "Shutter Island" and "Ghost Writer." Both good stories, great production values. Two notable directors (Scorsese and Polanski).
For Mel Gibson fans (are there any left?), "Edge of Darkness" wasn't bad.
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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby waborat » Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:36 pm

Ol' No.11 wrote:Two very good adult movies out in 2010 so far:


Two better ones are:

Add Momma To The Train

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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby hebner20 » Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:47 pm

waborat wrote:
swerb wrote:
Basterds was awesome. My movie of the year.


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i just rented basterds tonight. I cannot recommend this film. even as a farce it is unbelievable. clearly i am in the minority but it was like they were pissing on me and telling me it was raining. only problem was; I knew they were pissing on me. the last 20 -30 minutes is where it fell apart. until then it was ok.
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Re: Best Picture Oscar

Unread postby mattvan1 » Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:34 pm

waborat wrote:
Ol' No.11 wrote:Two very good adult movies out in 2010 so far:


Two better ones are:

Add Momma To The Train

&

Charlie's Anal


:cheers: I'm terrified to google those titles to see if they actually exist.
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