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by **FUDU** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:58 pm

64 best movie villains.

I did this real quick off the top of my head.

I am thinking of a few qualifications to make it less controversial and less blurry.

1. No monsters or any non humans. (with exception to characters that portray extreme human like qualities or characters that were meant to represent humans. IE: T-1000 Terminator 2, IE of a no: Alien from Alien series).

2. No human characters or human like characters that have very limited to zero dialogue. Trying to keep the integrity of real acting, IE: Michael Myers (Halloween), Jason (F13th). Obviously a great character and villain but there is no dialogue to impact the quality of the character.

Looking for some suggestions for rules or additions/subtractions. JoBu doesn't count.

Off the top of my head I got 40 I think. Some duplicate characters played by different actors, IMO both deserving mention due to remakes and the individual actor's impact on each role.

Not in any type of suggestive order what so ever.

Darth Vader (Star Wars)
Hannibal Lecter (SOTL series)
Edward the Longshanks (Braveheart)
Hans Gruber (Die Hard)
Joker (Batman) (Jack, Heath)
Lex Luther (Superman) (Hackman,Spacey)
General Zod (Superman 2)
Annie Wilkes (Misery)
Alex Forrest (Fatal Attraction)
Khan (Star Trek 2)
Commodus (Gladiator)
KGB (Rounders)
Apollo (Rocky)
Drago (Rocky 4)
Gordon Gekko (Wall Street)
Howard Payne (Speed)
Jack Torrence (Shining)
Jame Gumb (SOTL)
Magneto (X Men)
Peyton Flanders (Hand that Rocks the Cradle)
T-1000 (Terminator 2)
Witch of West (Wiz of Oz)
Dr. Evil (Austin Powers)
Agent Smith (Matrix)
John Doe (Seven)
Catherine Tramell (Basic Instinct)
Little Billy Daggett (Unforgiven)
Max Cady (Cape Fear)
Alex Delarge (Clock Work Orange)
Amon Gorth (Schinlder's List)
Nurse RAtched (Cuckoo's Nest)
Antno Chigurh (No Country For Old Men)
The Hunter (Bambi)** hard to call on whether this should be counted, considered a great villain by critics.
Will Teasle (First Blood)
Saroman (LOTR)
Eleanor Shaw (Manchurian CAndidate)
Alonzo Harris (Training Day)
Samuel Norton (Shawshank)
Gollum (LOTR)
Henry Evans (The Good Son)
Albert (The Color Purple)

Col. Nathan Jessup (Few Good Men)
Mr. Blonde (Reservoir Dogs)
Bill the Butcher (Gangs of NY)
Norman Bates (Psycho)
Sgt Barnes (platoon)
Tyler Durden (Fight Club)
Kaiser Soze (Usual Suspects)
Frank Booth (Blue Velvet)
Ash? (Alien)

by **aoxo1** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:01 pm

Wes Mantooth (Anchorman)
Bad Ash (Army of Darkness)

by **Cerebral_DownTime** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:03 pm

Captian Vidal- Pan's Labyrinth.

Dude was straight evil.

by **FUDU** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:04 pm

Dude from Saw series?

by **aoxo1** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:04 pm

Hans Landa

by **Cerebral_DownTime** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:06 pm

John Doe- Se7en. Fucking epic.

by **Doc** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:08 pm

Rachel Phelps or Haywood.

by **aoxo1** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:09 pm

Tyler Durden

by **aoxo1** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:10 pm

Michael Corleone
Tony Montana

by **Cerebral_DownTime** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:11 pm

aoxo1 wrote:Tyler Durden

aoxo1 wrote:Michael Corleone
Tony Montana

Anti heroes.

by **Cerebral_DownTime** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:13 pm

Major Konig- Enemy At The Gates.

by **aoxo1** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:15 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
aoxo1 wrote:Tyler Durden

aoxo1 wrote:Michael Corleone
Tony Montana

Anti heroes.

Anti-heroes aren't evil. They don't fit the typical hero profile, but still do good. The Man with No Name, Batman, Punisher etc.

by **FUDU** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:18 pm

aoxo1 wrote:
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
aoxo1 wrote:Tyler Durden

aoxo1 wrote:Michael Corleone
Tony Montana

Anti heroes.

Anti-heroes aren't evil. They don't fit the typical hero profile, but still do good. The Man with No Name, Batman, Punisher etc.

Montana is often considered a traditional villain, Corleone not so much.

The problem with a Batman as an anti hero is that he had a true villain as opposition, kind of makes Batman a hero by default.

by **Cerebral_DownTime** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:20 pm

But what about where Montana whacks that dude trying to blow up the guy and his kids?

by **aoxo1** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:22 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:But what about where Montana whacks that dude trying to blow up the guy and his kids?

What about when Hans Gruber gave Harry Ellis that coke?

by **Cerebral_DownTime** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:24 pm

aoxo1 wrote:
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:But what about where Montana whacks that dude trying to blow up the guy and his kids?

What about when Hans Gruber gave Harry Ellis that coke?

Dude I haven't seen that movie in 15 years. It's all broken glass and unrealistic gunplay to me now.

by **Cerebral_DownTime** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:25 pm

Sgt Barnes- Platoon.

by **aoxo1** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:25 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
aoxo1 wrote:
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:But what about where Montana whacks that dude trying to blow up the guy and his kids?

What about when Hans Gruber gave Harry Ellis that coke?

Dude I haven't seen that movie in 15 years. It's all broken glass and unrealistic gunplay to me now.

by **e0y2e3** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:26 pm

FUDU wrote:
The problem with a Batman as an anti hero is that he had a true villain as opposition, kind of makes Batman a hero by default.

Shhhh.... you'll wake Mac

by **FUDU** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:26 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Sgt Barnes- Platoon.

Good call.

by **FUDU** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:28 pm

e0y2e3 wrote:
FUDU wrote:
The problem with a Batman as an anti hero is that he had a true villain as opposition, kind of makes Batman a hero by default.

Shhhh.... you'll wake Mac

http://mayopie.files.wordpress.com/2009 ... 20kiss.jpg

by **Cerebral_DownTime** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:29 pm

Does Freddy Krueger count? Or is he considered a monster?

by **FUDU** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:30 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Does Freddy Krueger count? Or is he considered a monster?

I discount him based on monster likeness and pretty low level dialogue.

by **aoxo1** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:34 pm

Ming the Merciless (Flash Gordon)
Normal Bates (Psycho)
Mr. Blonde (Reservoir Dogs)
Little Bill (Unforgiven)

by **FUDU** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:42 pm

aoxo1 wrote:Ming the Merciless (Flash Gordon)
Normal Bates (Psycho)
Mr. Blonde (Reservoir Dogs)
Little Bill (Unforgiven)

Bill is there, so is John Doe from 7.

by **Cerebral_DownTime** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:43 pm

Oh shit...... Bill The Butcher- Gangs Of New York. Dude was a great line machine.

Colonel Nathan Jessup - A Few Good Men

Dr. Christian Szell- Marathon Man

Norman Stansfield- The Professional

by **hermanfontenot** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:49 pm

Colonel Nathan Jessup (A Few Good Men)
The Alien (Alien)
Zuul (Ghostbusters)
Sean Miller (Patriot Games)
John Kirby (Silent Rage, my favorite Chuck Norris movie)
The Duke (Escape From New York)
Scorpio (Dirty Harry)
Top Dollar (The Crow)
The Soc's (The Outsiders)

by **Cerebral_DownTime** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:57 pm

Kaiser Soze- The Usual Suspects

by **FUDU** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:59 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Kaiser Soze- The Usual Suspects

Thought about that one, it is an interesting call b/c he wasn't a villain until the last moment of the movie, right?

I mean how many people knew Verbal was Soze before the last 5 minutes?

by **hermanfontenot** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:00 am

Kaiser was the villain throughout the movie. We just didn't know his identity.

by **Cerebral_DownTime** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:02 am

Ok, I get what you're saying about Soze. What about Travis Bickle in Taxi Driver?

Frank Booth- Blue Velvet. Dude with the fucking Nitrous or Ether, whatever the hell it was. Need to see that again too.

by **motherscratcher** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:03 am

Brad Wesley - Road House
Kakihara - Ichi The Killer

I'm not sure what Tyler Durden is, but I never looked at him as a villian

by **aoxo1** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:10 am

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Frank Booth- Blue Velvet. Dude with the fucking Nitrous or Ether, whatever the hell it was. Need to see that again too.

by **motherscratcher** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:15 am

Vincenzo Coccotti (Walken) - True Romance

I'd also like to make a motion that Spacey be removed from consideration in the Lex Luthor category. Nothing against Spacey, but Gene Hackman is Lex Luthor.

by **CarolinaTribe** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:59 am

AFI's list of the top 50 heros & villains..

http://connect.afi.com/site/DocServer/h ... ?docID=246

by **Cerebral_DownTime** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:06 am

Motherscratcher wrote:Vincenzo Coccotti (Walken) - True Romance

He was only in that one scene. It's a really good underrated movie, he just wasn't in it enough.

People still list that movie in Tarantino's list, despite the fact he only wrote it.

by **Indians88** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:14 am

Col. Hans Landa - Inglourious Basterds

by **motherscratcher** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:17 am

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
Motherscratcher wrote:Vincenzo Coccotti (Walken) - True Romance

He was only in that one scene. It's a really good underrated movie, he just wasn't in it enough.

People still list that movie in Tarantino's list, despite the fact he only wrote it.

Yeah, you're right. You threw Frank Booth out there and it got me thinking about Hopper, and that got me thinking about that scene. There you go.

by **OldDawg** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:19 am

Mary Tyler Moore's mother character in the movie "Ordinary People."
You know she was a good actress if she can make you hate her as much as you do in that film.
Evil woman.

by **StewieG** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:27 am

Voldemort (Harry Potter)...or should he not count because he was a book villain first?

by **FUDU** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:54 am

Not enough people have seen Inglorious Bastards for a character from it to be included IMO.

Movie is not out on DVD yet is it?

by jb » Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:46 pm

Does Levinson's ESPN film about the band tard qualify Art Modell?

by jb » Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:49 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Frank Booth - Blue Velvet. Dude with the fucking Nitrous or Ether, whatever the hell it was. Need to see that again too.

This.

After this film came out I had a dude living in the same college house who ordered about $ 500 in magazine subscriptions under the name "Frank Booth".

by **Bill the Butcher** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:58 pm

As CDT already said... me.

Bene...

by **Larvell Blanks** » Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:06 pm

Chet Donnelly(Weird Science)

by **motherscratcher** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:28 am

Larvell Blanks wrote:Chet Donnelly(Weird Science)

Fuckin' A

by **British_Pharaoh** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:25 am

Where's your bond villains???

where's Dr No and Christopher Walken's character in a view to a kill

oh and the guy out of the Sopranos in True Romance

by **HoodooMan** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:36 am

by **FUDU** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:04 pm

by **peeker643** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:34 pm

Tim Roth in 'Rob Roy'.

Glenn Close in 'Fatal Attraction'

The Wicked Witch of the West still scares me.

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