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by FUDU » Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:28 pm
by jb » Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:24 pm
by FUDU » Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:42 pm
by British_Pharaoh » Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:43 pm

by aoxo1 » Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:00 pm
British_Pharaoh wrote:I'm 23 and I'd say
Parklife by Blur
or
Wonderwall by Oasis
FUDU wrote:Smells Like Teen Spirit deserves some discussion but I disagree that it is a no brainer by any means.
IMO the vast majority of a generation would need to relate to said anthem, not sure that is the case with SLTS. It definitely has an impact on music but just how much, not sure.
by metalhead9x9 » Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:07 pm
by British_Pharaoh » Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:28 pm
aoxo1 wrote:British_Pharaoh wrote:I'm 23 and I'd say
Parklife by Blur
or
Wonderwall by Oasis
Brits don't count.

by davemanddd » Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:37 pm
by jb » Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:40 pm
metalhead9x9 wrote:Being a part of Gen. Y, Teen Spirit is a little too early for us. Can't really think of anything from the late '90's.
by jb » Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:47 pm
FUDU wrote:Smells Like Teen Spirit deserves some discussion but I disagree that it is a no brainer by any means.
IMO the vast majority of a generation would need to relate to said anthem, not sure that is the case with SLTS. It definitely has an impact on music but just how much, not sure.
by Erie Warrior » Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:50 pm
JB wrote:Smells like teen spirit
Biggest game changer in rock music history.
Kurt screaming "the denial" at the end. Recognize.
Or maybe Straight Outta Compton
Not the first gangsta rap, but the most in your face. Brought what the urban US had become to the masses


by jb » Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:53 pm
Erie Warrior wrote:JB wrote:Smells like teen spirit
Biggest game changer in rock music history.
Kurt screaming "the denial" at the end. Recognize.
Or maybe Straight Outta Compton
Not the first gangsta rap, but the most in your face. Brought what the urban US had become to the masses
Good call, but for me it was Jeremy- Pearl Jam. That entire album was my introduction to grunge music. I'd like to add The Chronic to that list too. First time white kids tried to act black, which was quite the paradigm shift.
by Erie Warrior » Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:58 pm
JB wrote:Oh, white keds been trying to act black since ragtime, buddy.


by jb » Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:01 pm
Erie Warrior wrote:JB wrote:Oh, white keds been trying to act black since ragtime, buddy.
In the scope of my generation. First time white kids I knew started acting black.
by FUDU » Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:03 pm
Well at least now you are defining a point in which you associate with a generation, early 20's I can agree with. But I don't discount late teens really.JB wrote:FUDU wrote:Smells Like Teen Spirit deserves some discussion but I disagree that it is a no brainer by any means.
IMO the vast majority of a generation would need to relate to said anthem, not sure that is the case with SLTS. It definitely has an impact on music but just how much, not sure.
FUDU, anyone aged 17 - 28 in 90 - 91 era can tell you exactly the place and circumstance when they heard the first riffs of SLTS.
In the first 3 notes of the opening riff , hair metal and old farts like Aerosmith were gloriously bansihed to the dust bin of history.
It was that big.
A few years before that, you can make a great case for almost anything off Appetite from GnR. Before that, it wasn't my generation. I was too young. By the rise of the late 90's shit, I'd jumped that demographic shark into 30 something.
By "generation", I'm thinking that is one's 20's.
But sure, if you want to make your case for We are The World, go on head. I know you sang along and hit the bridge with Huey Lewis.
by Triple-S » Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:36 pm
JB wrote:In the first 3 notes of the opening riff , hair metal and old farts like Aerosmith were gloriously bansihed to the dust bin of history.
Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

by Cerebral_DownTime » Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:08 pm
by Erie Warrior » Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:18 pm
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:As an anthem for Gen Xers, Smells Like Teen Spirit can't be denied. Alice In Chains shits all over Nirvana and their vannila music. They were the best band to come out of the Seattle scene, by a mile.


by Cerebral_DownTime » Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:03 pm
Erie Warrior wrote:Cerebral_DownTime wrote:As an anthem for Gen Xers, Smells Like Teen Spirit can't be denied. Alice In Chains shits all over Nirvana and their vannila music. They were the best band to come out of the Seattle scene, by a mile.
Strong statement, but not much I can argue against. A mile is a long way, but Jar of Flies is one of my favorite albums.
by mattvan1 » Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:30 pm
FUDU wrote: I know you aren't going to like this take: but Nirvana was the epitome of the "define me" crowd, so interdependent on the inner workings of their life. No different than Friends really. Nirvana (Kurt) complicated simplicity.
I am actually with you more on the Fight for Your Right, albeit it more of a rebellious type cliche. The Beastie Boys in general seem more fitting as the style of music that would relate to an anthem of our gen (I'm 37, so were are pretty much same gen, no?). Fine lines.
Killing in the Name Of works for the fine line of gen x/gen y.
by Cerebral_DownTime » Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:37 pm
by Bayou Tribe » Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:38 pm
by FUDU » Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:47 pm
mattvan1 wrote:FUDU wrote: I know you aren't going to like this take: but Nirvana was the epitome of the "define me" crowd, so interdependent on the inner workings of their life. No different than Friends really. Nirvana (Kurt) complicated simplicity.
I am actually with you more on the Fight for Your Right, albeit it more of a rebellious type cliche. The Beastie Boys in general seem more fitting as the style of music that would relate to an anthem of our gen (I'm 37, so were are pretty much same gen, no?). Fine lines.
Killing in the Name Of works for the fine line of gen x/gen y.
Really? Are you comparing the mainstream emergence of the alt music scene to an ensemble cast comedy show set in New York where we witness characters going about their daily lives and how they interact? As if that concept had never been tried before? Really?
by rawdawgexpress » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:26 pm
by mattvan1 » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:46 pm
FUDU wrote:
Friends was much about the ensemble of characters "finding themselves", and often times the show simply tried to hard. Same with Nirvana, so yeah I said it. They were not so different as people like to make them out to be, and their music was about much of the same stuff as many bands before them.
Let's not forget time and place, I mean you take MTV out of the mix and it is very possible that only Gray's Harbor would know who Nirvana was. Same could be said for a lot of bands in that time sure.
SLTS is definitely a good tune and made a dent, I'm not knocking the suggestion for this thread, I am just stating that the band responsible for that song wasn't the first nor second coming of Christ.
by Orenthal » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:51 pm
Bayou Tribe wrote:I am 27 now, so really an anthem for "my generation" would have to have been from about 1999-present day.
We are the generation with no anthem, and that doesn't sit well with me to be honest.
by Bayou Tribe » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:53 pm
Orenthal wrote:Bayou Tribe wrote:I am 27 now, so really an anthem for "my generation" would have to have been from about 1999-present day.
We are the generation with no anthem, and that doesn't sit well with me to be honest.
THIS! I'm 27 also and I cannot think of shit. SLTS was huge, but I could have cared less. Luved Pearl Jam, but they were the so called sellouts of the Alt Rock scene. Liked AIC, 10 years later... Was a HUGE Metallica fan, but that died a slow death after Load and Reload... Can listen to just about any kind of music if it survives 10 years of age... I don't know...
by Orenthal » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:00 pm
Bayou Tribe wrote:Orenthal wrote:Bayou Tribe wrote:I am 27 now, so really an anthem for "my generation" would have to have been from about 1999-present day.
We are the generation with no anthem, and that doesn't sit well with me to be honest.
THIS! I'm 27 also and I cannot think of shit. SLTS was huge, but I could have cared less. Luved Pearl Jam, but they were the so called sellouts of the Alt Rock scene. Liked AIC, 10 years later... Was a HUGE Metallica fan, but that died a slow death after Load and Reload... Can listen to just about any kind of music if it survives 10 years of age... I don't know...
I mean, do we have to get stuck with "Higher" by Creed? "It's Been Awhile" from Staind? "Cause I Got High" by Afroman?
WE AINT GOT SHIT!
by Cerebral_DownTime » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:05 pm
Orenthal wrote:That is too freaking funny. On some jobs we will go all day saying random things like Scott Stapp. TOOL thy name is Scott Stapp! Our generation blows, but at least ours did not make Flavor Flav or Brett Michaels relevent again. I putting that on the gen below us...
by Erie Warrior » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:07 pm


by peeker643 » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:14 pm
by Orenthal » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:30 pm
by FUDU » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:47 pm
Orenthal wrote:Pantera was pretty huge... How about Walk as our anthem! I'd say it was a combo of grunge and Pantera that killed 80's glam rock!
by jb » Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:13 pm
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:As an anthem for Gen Xers, Smells Like Teen Spirit can't be denied. Alice In Chains shits all over Nirvana and their vannila music. They were the best band to come out of the Seattle scene, by a mile.
by jb » Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:15 pm
Orenthal wrote:Pantera was pretty huge... How about Walk as our anthem! I'd say it was a combo of grunge and Pantera that killed 80's glam rock!
by jb » Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:16 pm
mattvan1 wrote:FUDU wrote:
Friends was much about the ensemble of characters "finding themselves", and often times the show simply tried to hard. Same with Nirvana, so yeah I said it. They were not so different as people like to make them out to be, and their music was about much of the same stuff as many bands before them.
Let's not forget time and place, I mean you take MTV out of the mix and it is very possible that only Gray's Harbor would know who Nirvana was. Same could be said for a lot of bands in that time sure.
SLTS is definitely a good tune and made a dent, I'm not knocking the suggestion for this thread, I am just stating that the band responsible for that song wasn't the first nor second coming of Christ.
Ok. I misunderstood. I thought you were holding up "Friends" as some type of seminal moment in TV history. You think it blew chunks as well.
Ok, so on to Nirvana. I just disagree. I don't care for the band all that much, but the thread title contained "anthem", which to me means it
appealed to a wide audience
got commercial airplay (probably too much)
and was picked up by the mainstream media
SLTS was a "anthem" song. A fairly memorable one for that generation. Maybe it didn't speak to you personally, but it certainly seemed to be adopted by a lot of other people. An anthem song doesn't necessarily mean it's a good song by a legit band, it's just a rallying cry for a bunch of peeps.
Was Born to Run an anthem song for the generation 10 years earlier?
by jb » Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:17 pm
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Alt Rock had been done before, it was called punk back then.
by jb » Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:19 pm
FUDU wrote:Well at least now you are defining a point in which you associate with a generation, early 20's I can agree with. But I don't discount late teens really.JB wrote:FUDU wrote:Smells Like Teen Spirit deserves some discussion but I disagree that it is a no brainer by any means.
IMO the vast majority of a generation would need to relate to said anthem, not sure that is the case with SLTS. It definitely has an impact on music but just how much, not sure.
FUDU, anyone aged 17 - 28 in 90 - 91 era can tell you exactly the place and circumstance when they heard the first riffs of SLTS.
In the first 3 notes of the opening riff , hair metal and old farts like Aerosmith were gloriously bansihed to the dust bin of history.
It was that big.
A few years before that, you can make a great case for almost anything off Appetite from GnR. Before that, it wasn't my generation. I was too young. By the rise of the late 90's shit, I'd jumped that demographic shark into 30 something.
By "generation", I'm thinking that is one's 20's.
But sure, if you want to make your case for We are The World, go on head. I know you sang along and hit the bridge with Huey Lewis.
SLTS is not a bad choice like I said, but IMO it is overrated in that it represents something to music that we hadn't seen. All it was really was the reality of a rock band that was kind of about nothing or about everything at once. Almost like chaos when a lot of what came before it the previous dozens years was about something in particular, often the same thing from every rock band. But the chaos wasn't new to the music world.
I know you aren't going to like this take: but Nirvana was the epitome of the "define me" crowd, so interdependent on the inner workings of their life. No different than Friends really. Nirvana (Kurt) complicated simplicity.
I am actually with you more on the Fight for Your Right, albeit it more of a rebellious type cliche. The Beastie Boys in general seem more fitting as the style of music that would relate to an anthem of our gen (I'm 37, so were are pretty much same gen, no?). Fine lines.
Killing in the Name Of works for the fine line of gen x/gen y.
As much as I hate to admit it our gen anthem JB would probably be voted to be a title from a big hair band,
by Orenthal » Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:22 pm
JB wrote:Orenthal wrote:Pantera was pretty huge... How about Walk as our anthem! I'd say it was a combo of grunge and Pantera that killed 80's glam rock!
A generational snthem has to be iconic. Id est more that 6 people have to have dug it.
by mattvan1 » Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:24 pm
FUDU wrote: Another song that I think many would consider for this, and I will get attacked for this (but just hear me out) Pour Some Sugar On Me. Yeah it is got a bit of that big hair band feel, but IMO only b/c of the era it came out, Def Leppard however was not really a big hair band (at least far from the typical one), couldn't be with their roots in Britain and starting out in the seventies. It legitimately rocks way more than most big hair rock and is not on the same level of cheesiness.
For me personally it was a bit early in my years to garner my vote for an anthem, 87 I was 17, too dumb to know much of anything.

by jb » Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:24 pm
FUDU wrote:mattvan1 wrote:FUDU wrote: I know you aren't going to like this take: but Nirvana was the epitome of the "define me" crowd, so interdependent on the inner workings of their life. No different than Friends really. Nirvana (Kurt) complicated simplicity.
I am actually with you more on the Fight for Your Right, albeit it more of a rebellious type cliche. The Beastie Boys in general seem more fitting as the style of music that would relate to an anthem of our gen (I'm 37, so were are pretty much same gen, no?). Fine lines.
Killing in the Name Of works for the fine line of gen x/gen y.
Really? Are you comparing the mainstream emergence of the alt music scene to an ensemble cast comedy show set in New York where we witness characters going about their daily lives and how they interact? As if that concept had never been tried before? Really?
Friends was much about the ensemble of characters "finding themselves", and often times the show simply tried to hard. Same with Nirvana, so yeah I said it. They were not so different as people like to make them out to be, and their music was about much of the same stuff as many bands before them.
Let's not forget time and place, I mean you take MTV out of the mix and it is very possible that only Gray's Harbor would know who Nirvana was. Same could be said for a lot of bands in that time sure.
SLTS is definitely a good tune and made a dent, I'm not knocking the suggestion for this thread, I am just stating that the band responsible for that song wasn't the first nor second coming of Christ.
by jb » Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:25 pm
mattvan1 wrote:FUDU wrote: Another song that I think many would consider for this, and I will get attacked for this (but just hear me out) Pour Some Sugar On Me. Yeah it is got a bit of that big hair band feel, but IMO only b/c of the era it came out, Def Leppard however was not really a big hair band (at least far from the typical one), couldn't be with their roots in Britain and starting out in the seventies. It legitimately rocks way more than most big hair rock and is not on the same level of cheesiness.
For me personally it was a bit early in my years to garner my vote for an anthem, 87 I was 17, too dumb to know much of anything.
OMG. Dude, you are most respected when it comes to a bunch of stuff, but the NBA Playoffs are not about match ups and "Pour Some Sugar on Me" as the anthem song that represents your generation are 2 of the greatest, most significantly fucked up takes I can remember from a regular. And I mean that in a very lighthearted, most respectful manner.
by jb » Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:26 pm
mattvan1 wrote:FUDU wrote: I know you aren't going to like this take: but Nirvana was the epitome of the "define me" crowd, so interdependent on the inner workings of their life. No different than Friends really. Nirvana (Kurt) complicated simplicity.
I am actually with you more on the Fight for Your Right, albeit it more of a rebellious type cliche. The Beastie Boys in general seem more fitting as the style of music that would relate to an anthem of our gen (I'm 37, so were are pretty much same gen, no?). Fine lines.
Killing in the Name Of works for the fine line of gen x/gen y.
Really? Are you comparing the mainstream emergence of the alt music scene to an ensemble cast comedy show set in New York where we witless characters going about their daily lives and how they interact? As if that concept had never been tried before? Really?
by Orenthal » Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:27 pm
mattvan1 wrote:FUDU wrote: Another song that I think many would consider for this, and I will get attacked for this (but just hear me out) Pour Some Sugar On Me. Yeah it is got a bit of that big hair band feel, but IMO only b/c of the era it came out, Def Leppard however was not really a big hair band (at least far from the typical one), couldn't be with their roots in Britain and starting out in the seventies. It legitimately rocks way more than most big hair rock and is not on the same level of cheesiness.
For me personally it was a bit early in my years to garner my vote for an anthem, 87 I was 17, too dumb to know much of anything.
OMG. Dude, you are most respected when it comes to a bunch of stuff, but the NBA Playoffs are not about match ups and "Pour Some Sugar on Me" as the anthem song that represents your generation are 2 of the greatest, most significantly fucked up takes I can remember from a regular. And I mean that in a very lighthearted, most respectful manner.
by jb » Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:29 pm
Orenthal wrote:JB wrote:Orenthal wrote:Pantera was pretty huge... How about Walk as our anthem! I'd say it was a combo of grunge and Pantera that killed 80's glam rock!
A generational snthem has to be iconic. Id est more that 6 people have to have dug it.
At least double that, and btw the album after Vulgar went to #1... Rush plays it as part of his bumper music, or is that Revolution is My Name... <-grasping
by Triple-S » Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:50 pm
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Orenthal wrote:That is too freaking funny. On some jobs we will go all day saying random things like Scott Stapp. TOOL thy name is Scott Stapp! Our generation blows, but at least ours did not make Flavor Flav or Brett Michaels relevent again. I putting that on the gen below us...
lol. You're right. Atleast we don't have that on our conscious.
Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

by jack_tors » Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:27 am
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:As an anthem for Gen Xers, Smells Like Teen Spirit can't be denied. Alice In Chains shits all over Nirvana and their vannila music. They were the best band to come out of the Seattle scene, by a mile.
by Cerebral_DownTime » Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:32 am
jack_tors wrote:Cerebral_DownTime wrote:As an anthem for Gen Xers, Smells Like Teen Spirit can't be denied. Alice In Chains shits all over Nirvana and their vannila music. They were the best band to come out of the Seattle scene, by a mile.
I dont know dude, Soundgarden was pretty fucking good too.. Not trying to start an AIC vs Soundgarden thread/fight but I agree with the point I would rather listen to those 2 bands over Nervarna. Outside of SLTS, there really wasnt anything else from them I really got into.. but ALC, Soundgarden, those albums fucking jammed.
by motherscratcher » Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:40 am
Erie Warrior wrote:Cerebral_DownTime wrote:As an anthem for Gen Xers, Smells Like Teen Spirit can't be denied. Alice In Chains shits all over Nirvana and their vannila music. They were the best band to come out of the Seattle scene, by a mile.
Strong statement, but not much I can argue against. A mile is a long way, but Jar of Flies is one of my favorite albums.
by Cerebral_DownTime » Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:26 am
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