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Unread postby swerb » Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:55 pm

1. Houston - Reggie Bush RB USC

-- The obvious and almost unanimous number one overall pick. Bush is a once in a lifetime franchise talent for any team picking this high. In Gary Kubiak’s system, Bush will run roughshod over the league next season. Think of names like Mike Anderson, Olandis Gary, and even Rueben Droughns. NOW, imagine Bush in the same system. Scary.

2. New Orleans -D’Brickashaw Ferguson OT Virginia

-- Why sign Drew Brees when as a team you can land the top rated quarterback in the draft class? Well if you have the cap room to land a franchise quarterback in free agency and THEN take a franchise left tackle talent number two overall; said team is certainly getting a bit more bang for their buck. Brick and Jammal Brown will become the most talented pair of tackles in the NFL the second Ferguson is drafted.

3. Tennessee - Matt Leinart QB USC

-- Leinart might not have the upside of Vince Young or the arm of Jay Cutler, but he is also the safest bet of the three. While his upside might not be as high, his floor is much higher than the two aforementioned quarterback prospects. When factoring in offensive coordinator, Norm Chow’s familiarity with Leinart; it is a match made in heaven when McNair finally cannot take the beating on his body any longer.

4. NY Jets - AJ Hawk LB Ohio St.

-- The Jets might have done themselves a disservice by sticking with Pennington and hedging their bets with the addition of Patrick Ramsey. With that said new head coach, Eric Mangini, knows firsthand defensive wins championships. Mangini will also likely transition to the 34 base front this season with his new team. The thought of Hawk pairing with Vilma to dominate the middle of the field is said system will make J-E-T-S fans grin ear to ear. No boos this year.

5. Green Bay - Mario Williams DE NC St.

-- Yes the Pack already has Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila and recently resigned Aaron Kampmen. Now through some sort of science fiction, the team could mold them into a singular player and the Pack would finally have an all around defensive end which could be a force. Well despite all the money NFL teams make, they do not have said technology; BUT they can draft one of the best defensive end prospect to come out in years. Any other year Super Mario would be in consideration for the number one overall pick.

6. San Francisco -Vernon Davis TE Maryland

-- Alex Smith’s rookie year was just abysmal. There really is not a nice way to say it. The 49er’s severely lacked weapons in the offense to surround their most recent attempt at a franchise quarterback. What is a quarterback’s best friend? A tight end who can force all kinds of mismatches. Enter Vernon Davis who certainly fit’s the mold. Davis has just blown away scouts with not only his play on the field, but with his measurable at the combine (a 4.39 forty for a tight is simply mind blowing), and a great personality.

7. Oakland - Vince Young QB Texas

-- The hottest question around the league and amongst fan bases is, “How far with Vince Young fall?” Is he still in the mix as a top three pick? Obviously not, but with all the talent Young possesses he simply will not fall as far as many expect. Especially when there are rumors Al Davis is completely enamored by Young’s abilities. Yes, the Raiders did just sign Aaron Brooks, but he was not the answer in New Orleans and will not be the answer in Oakland, simply the placeholder.

8. Buffalo - Broderick Bunkley DT Florida St

-- Consensus thought around this pick would indicate the Bills desperately need to find a way to stop the run thus Haloti Ngata makes the most sense as the best pure run stuffer in the draft. But when considering the Bills already cut ties with a very similar player, Sam Adams, and their new defensive coordinator is a disciple of Lovie Smith and the now famous Tampa Two defense; then Bunkley makes all the more sense. Let's hearken back to a draft just two seasons past, when the Bears decided to draft Tommy Harris over the more heralded Vince Wilfork. Harris fit the defense as a quick one gap penetrator, while Wilfork was a two gap beast. We will be looking at the same situation here.

9. Detroit - Michael Huff S/CB Texas

-- Can you believe it, no wide receiver for this pick? Jaw dropping thought is it not? There are some rumblings Detroit might be interested in a quarterback if one were to fall this far (and one has in this case). Simply put Matt Millen does not have the time to develop a rookie quarterback with his job on the line. Additions of solid vet Jon Kitna and a good young player, Josh McCown, shows they are ready to move in another direction. The Lions need defensive help in the worst way. Huff is either the elite corner or safety prospect depending on a team’s system. In this case Huff will shore up a secondary which really lacks talent.

10.Arizona - Jay Cutler QB Vanderbilt

-- Does anyone remember the last time the Cardinals took a quarterback in the first round? The answer is Kelly Stouffer in 1987 when the Cardinals were still in St. Louis. Owner, Bill Bidwell, is all about making money. This season the Cardinals are moving into a state of the art stadium, and they will want to fill every single seat in the house. What better way then signing top running back Edgerrin James and THEN drafting the team’s first franchise quarterback in almost twenty years?

11.St.Louis - Jimmy Williams CB Virginia Tech

-- The “Greatest Show on Turf” should continue to chug along with the addition of offensive minded head coach, Scott Linehan. Where the Rams have really dropped off the past few seasons has been on the defensive side of the ball. When the Rams last went to the Super Bowl, their defense ranked number one overall. This past season they were ranked 30th overall. Include the loss of a very good safety in Adam Archuleta in free agency, and there is basically nothing in the Ram secondary worth mentioning. Williams is a big physical corner who can be a force in both coverage and the running game. As such many predict he will move to safety at the next level.

12.Cleveland - Haloti Ngata DT Oregon

-- Stopping the run has certainly been a thorn in Cleveland’s side since the “Return”. Last season the Browns ranked a horrendous 30th in the league. Now employing a base 34 front, it ALL starts with the nose tackle. Ngata is clearly the best pure nose tackle prospect in the draft and will learn under arguably the best pure nose tackle in NFL history (Ted Washington). A match made in hog heaven. “Immovable object meet…..um…..the immovable object.”

13.Baltimore - Winston Justice OT USC

-- Justice is arguably a top ten talent who will very likely slide due to off the field issues. General Manager, Ozzie Newsome, has never been afraid to pick up top talents who slide some, or avoid players with sketchy backgrounds. In this case Justice also fills a need since the Ravens recently cut right tackle starter, Orland Brown. Tony Pashos certainly is not the answer at the position, and Winston will automatically upgrade a unit which has been in decline the past few seasons.

14.Philadelphia -LenDale White RB USC

-- Bryant Westbrook simply cannot shoulder the load as the focal point of the Eagle offense. With Terrell Owens officially with another team; weapons need to be brought into this offense. Their lopsided pass to run differential needs to be balanced and can be done so by bringing in a bruising running back who can shoulder more of the load. White would prove to be the perfect compliment to Westbrook and fill a major need in this offense currently.

15.Denver* - DeAngelo Williams RB Memphis

-- Anyone honestly think Tatum Bell can stay healthy for a full season, and Ron Dayne can become the back he once was in college? I did not think so. Denver should be licking their chops if a back this talented fell into their laps. Williams is arguably the second most talented back in this draft and if it was not for the way the draft fell in front of him this year; would normally be considered a top ten prospect. Put Williams in Denver’s system and an early front runner for NFL offensive rookie of the year presents itself.

16.Miami - Chad Jackson WR Florida

-- With the acquisition of Daunte Culpepper to be the ‘Phins first true franchise signal caller since Dan Marino, the front office can already say this has been a very successful off season. Now to put the pieces around Culpepper. Chambers, McMichael, and Ronnie Brown are a very good start. How about another primetime deep threat to show off the big arm of Culpepper? Jackson has simply wowed scouts with his off season performances and has staked his own claim as the best receiver in the group. While some might say Jackson is a one year wonder at Florida before he declared; he certainly has the size, speed, and explosiveness scouts look for in the position.

17.Minnesota - Santonio Holmes WR Ohio St

-- Holmes recently scared off some scouts by weighing in a full eight pounds less at his pro day compared to his Combine numbers. Normally this would not be much of a worry, but when a receiver only tips the scales at 179 lbs., teams start to worry if he can take the wear and tear of an NFL season. Size issues aside Holmes is arguably the most polished receiver in this class: reliable hands, deep threat, and runs good routes. Would be a very nice compliment to last year’s number one pick, Troy Williamson.

18.Dallas - Ernie Sims LB Florida St

-- Due to the retirement of Dat Nguyen, the Cowboys now have a gaping hole at inside linebacker. Sims does not posses prototype size for the position, but neither did Nguyen. Sims though is a Coach Parcells type of guy. He hits opponents so hard, Sims has given himself multiple concussions. A player Browns General Manager, Phil Savage, referenced as a “human bullet” on the field. Could certainly be a force in the middle of a ferocious Parcells’ coached defense.

19.San Diego - Tye Hill CB Clemson

-- Tye Hill is the best pure cover corner in this draft period. Another player who lacks prototype size, but has the speed and fluidity to be a shutdown type player at times. The Chargers have invested a lot in the secondary over the years with little success. Hill should be able to come in immediately and help the problem.

20.Kansas City - Kamerion Wimbley DE Florida St

-- Where there is smoke, there is fire; and the Chiefs have been sniffing around Wimbley quite a bit as of late. Jared Allen was a very nice surprise at one defensive end last season for KC, but overall help is still needed up front. A speed pass rusher would prove to be a perfect compliment to what the Chiefs are trying to do up front currently.

21.New England - Manny Lawson DE NC St.

-- The Patriots have a reputation for being able to lose players and just plug more in without skipping a beat. Do not be mistaken and believe the loss of Willie McGinest will not hurt this team because it most certainly will. Lawson is the most talented “hybrid” (DE/LB tweener used as predominant 34 OLB) player in this draft. His speed, athleticism, and hustle off the edge will help ease the transition into a younger defense for the once great Patriots.

22.Denver* - Leonard Pope TE Georgia

-- Ahhhh, the great Jeb Putzier has moved on to greener pastures. Or more accurately, he was cut and signed with another team. Same Difference. What is curious though about that particular move is the fact tight end is so crucial to Denver’s offensive schemes. Pope is a 6’7” 255 monster target with soft hands which will make any quarterback happy to see on his own team. Now the question becomes……can Pope fill the rather large shoes the Putzier left behind?

23.Tampa Bay -Tamba Hali DE Penn St

-- Simeon Rice has been a one man wrecking crew in the pass rush for quite a few seasons. While he has been effective, one has to ask just how much more effective could he be with another pass rusher on his opposite? Hali is a perfect complimentary piece in Tampa’s already tough as nails defense. Hali brings a relentless pass rush and motor which will make any coach smile. Well in John Gruden’s case, it would be a begrudging smirk.

24.Cincinnati - Jason Allen S/CB Tennessee

-- Allen has simply blown scouts away this off season. Not in a way which would label him a “workout warrior”, but for the fact he has come back so quickly from a devastating injury about halfway through the season. It was actually the same injury which ended Bo Jackson’s career. Just a few month’s later, Allen is off and running a 4.39 forty yard dash at the Combine. The fact Allen is now getting attention in the first round should not be a surprised since he was generally considered a top fifteen talent even before the injury. Cincinnati could certainly use another playmaker in their secondary, especially at safety.

25.NY Giants - Chad Greenway LB Iowa

-- The Giants were absolutely decimated with injuries among their linebacker corps last season. They have done a nice job in free agency addressing quality depth; but they still lack a true NFL caliber weak side linebacker. Greenway is a perfect fit and the right mold as a Tom Coughlin player. He does everything a coach will ask of him. Greenway just throws on the pads, plays disciplined, and makes plays.

26.Chicago - Sinorice Moss WR Miami

-- Da Bears wanted desperately to land Antwaan Randle-El free agency. Alas they missed out before they even had a chance to court him. Moss is very similar in mold. He would provide a speed demon deep threat to compliment the always steady and reliable Mushin Muhammed. Moss also brings the very important aspect of being a special teams threat as a kick returner, which is vitally important for Chicago currently because of the premature retirement Pro Bowl kick returner, Jerry Azumah.

27.Carolina - Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota

-- Simply a wonderful value pick at this point. Yes the Panthers invested a lot in DeShaun Foster recently but Foster has only proven to be healthy for one full season and that season he was splitting carries. Carolina wants to smash the ball down opposing teams throats and a one-two combination of Foster and Maroney could be devastating against those defenses.

28.Jacksonville - Mathias Kiwanuka DE Boston College

-- “Kiwi” is just too talented to fall out of the first round range. His off season has really hurt his overall stock, but he still possesses all the tools necessary to be a great NFL defensive end. For a team like the Jaguars who thought they could buy great defensive ends like Hugh Douglas or Marcellus Wiley over the year; it is time to invest and groom one of their own.

29.NY Jets* - Kelly Jennings CB Miami

-- Jennings will never blow a team away with great measurables or natural athletic ability; but he clearly knows how to play the position. A scout will never see him out of position nor beaten cleanly by a receiver. Jennings is a smart ball player who should have an immediate impact at the next level. With the Jets current woes in their secondary, a player of this caliber would certainly be hard to pass.

30.Indianapolis - Joseph Addai RB LSU

-- Draft pick meet team need. Addai is a solid running back prospect who has shown over the years very good speed, power, and the ability to shoulder the load. What he has never done is put all those things together for an entire season. Right now though, he is the best on the board at the position and would actually fit well in the Colts system.

31.Seattle - Antonio Cromartie CB Florida St.

-- For a team just coming off a Super Bowl run, Seattle will not lose too many parts to their team. As such it allows them to take a chance on an elite talent with an injury history like Cromartie. The depth of the secondary last season was greatly hurt when Ken Hamlin’s life was put in danger due to an off the field incident. Cromartie missed all of last season due to an leg injury. He has also come back fully healthy and blown scouts away with his progress this off season. Once considered a top ten talent, a team taking a chance on Antonio at this point could be getting a major steal.

32.Pittsburgh - Nick Mangold C Ohio St.

-- Jeff Hartings, the Steelers Pro Bowl center, was recently resigned to a new deal. This does not overlook the fact, Hartings is literally on his last leg. Mangold fits the mold of a Steeler lineman up front: powerful, nasty, and technically sound. In a year or two, he will become the next great anchor in a line of great pivot men which has become a tradition in the Steel City.

Round 2


33.Houston - Eric Winston OT Miami
34.New Orleans - Marcedes Lewis TE UCLA
35.Tennessee - D’Qwell Jackson LB Maryland
36.NY Jets - Brian Calhoun RB Wisconsin
37.Green Bay - DeMeco Ryans LB Alabama
38.Oakland - Thomas Howard LB UTEP
39.San Francisco - Bobby Carpenter LB Ohio St.
40.Buffalo - Darnell Bing S USC
41.Detroit - Marcus McNeill OT Auburn
42.Arizona - Gabe Watson DT Michigan

43.Cleveland - Abdul Hodge LB Iowa

-- The Browns desperately need inside linebacker help, and Hodge will come to the rescue. Though he does not possess prototype type size, there is not another middle linebacker in this draft who is more physical and instinctual. At times Hodge even out shown the star that is his highly regarded linebacking brother from Iowa, Chad Greenway.
44.Baltimore - Donte Whitner S Ohio St
45.Philadelphia- Devin Hester WR/CB Miami
46.St.Louis - Joe Klopfenstein TE Colorado
47.Atlanta - Daryn Colledge OT Boise St
48.Minnesota - Ashton Youboty CB Ohio St.
49.Dallas - Max Jean-Gilles OG Georgia
50.San Diego - Maurice Stovall WR Notre Dame
51.Minnesota* - Charles Spencer OT/OG Pitt
52.New England - Ko Simpson S South Carolina
53.Washington - Mike Kudla DE Ohio St
54.Kansas City - Jonathan Joseph CB South Carolina
55.Cincinnati - Claude Wroten DT LSU
56.NY Giants - Rodrique Wright DT Texas
57.Chicago - Anthony Fasano TE Notre Dame
58.Carolina - Dominique Byrd TE USC
59.Tampa Bay - Jon Scott OT Texas
60.Jacksonville - Taitusi Lutui OG USC
61.Denver - Darryl Tapp DE Virginia Tech
62.Indianapolis - Rocky McIntosh LB Miami
63.Seattle - Mark Anderson DE Alabama
64.Pittsburgh - Daniel Bullocks S Nebraska

Round 3
65.Houston - Gerris Wilkinson LB Georgia Tech
66.Houston* - Anthony Smith S Syracuse
67.Green Bay - Davin Joseph OG/OT Oklahoma
68.San Francisco - Alan Zemaitis CB Penn St.
69.Oakland - Dusty Dvoracek DT Oklahoma
70.Buffalo* - Tony Scheffler TE Western Michigan
71.NY Jets - Charlie Whitehurst QB Clemson
72.Arizona - Stanley McClover DE Auburn
73.Buffalo - Andrew Whitworth OT LSU
74.Detroit - Tim McGarigle LB Northwestern
75.New England* - Maurice Drew RB UCLA
76.Philadelphia - Demetrius Williams WR Oregon
77.St.Louis - Jesse Mahelona DT Tennessee

78.Cleveland - Chris Gocong DE Cal-Poly

-- Some might be saying..."WHO?!" Gocong was the top defensive player at any level below Division One. His production even against lower level competition are eye popping over the past two seasons: 52.5 tackles for loss accompanied by 41 total sacks. Definitely showed enough athleticism at the Combine to play linebacker in the NFL and will learn under the great, Willie McGinest.
79.Atlanta - Mike Hass WR Oregon St
80.Dallas - Pat Watkins S Florida St.
81.San Diego - Jason Spitz OG/C Louisville
82.Miami - Anwar Phillips CB Penn St.
83.Minnesota - Brodie Croyle QB Alabama
84.San Francisco* - Jerome Harrison RB Washington St.
85.Kansas City - Jeff Webb WR San Diego St.
86.New England - Jeremy Trueblood OT Boston College
87.NY Giants - Will Blackmon CB Boston College
88.Chicago - Cedric Griffen CB Texas
89.Carolina - Leon Williams LB Miami
90.Tampa Bay - Martin Nance WR Miami (OH)
91.Cincinnati - David Thomas TE Texas
92.Jacksonville - Charles Gordon CB Kansas
93.Atlanta* - Richard Marshall CB Fresno St.
94.Indianapolis - Kyle Williams DT LSU
95.Seattle - Guy Whimper OT Eastern Carolina9
6.Pittsburgh -Barry Cofield DT Northwestern

Round 4

97.Houston - Jason Avant WR Michigan
98.New Orleans - Greg Eslinger C Minnesota
99. Oakland - Marcus Hudson CB NC St.
100.San Francisco - Clint Ingram LB Oklahoma
101.Tennessee - John McCargo DT NC St.
102.NY Jets - Rashad Butler OT Miami
103.Green Bay - Greg Jennings WR Western Michigan
104.Buffalo - AJ Nicholson LB Florida St
105.New England* - Kai Parham LB Virginia
106.Arizona - Rob Sims OG Ohio St.
107.Philadelphia - Terna Nande LB Miami (OH)
108.St.Louis - Ryan LaCasse DE Syracuse

109.Cleveland -Jerious Norwood RB Mississippi St.
-- Quality running back depth is desperately if the Cleveland Browns want to become a true power running team in the NFL. Norwood would be the perfect compliment to Droughns with his blazing speed (4.39 range at the Combine). Even shouldered the load on a bad Bulldog team this past season with 1136 yards rushing at 5.9 yards a clip.

110.Baltimore - Babatunde Oshinowo NT Stanford

111.Cleveland* - Joe Toledo OT Washington-- Impressive physical specimen (a well sculpted 6’5” and 337 pounds) who is still learning line play after a transition from tight end just two seasons ago. Toledo has the size, strength and athleticism to project to either tackle or guard. A long term project that could really pay dividends down the road given time to develop.
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Unread postby swerb » Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:56 pm

Would love to see Ngata/Hodge as the first two picks. The more and more I read, the more I like Ngata or Bunkley as my preference for the pick, and the more I think one of em will be there.
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Unread postby Lebowski » Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:02 pm

If Ngata is there at 12, I gotta think that Savage snatches him up. A lot of mocks I have seen have him going to the Bills, but comments from Levy and others in their organization this week make it seem that Ngata isn't a fit for their system.

SOBO correctly points out the value of having Washington here as a mentor. Seems perfect, as Savage said Big Ted will only play 50% of the plays in 06.

Like Swerb, I love the Hodge pick. He'd be great playing inside in our 3-4 IMO. I follow the Big Ten pretty closely and have always been impressed by Hodge. Plays with intensity. Hits like a ton of bricks. There is also the Ferentz/Savage tie here. I'm gonna have to search for a link, but I remember Ferentz saying that Hodge was one of his favorite players he has ever coached. Said something like he'll be a hell of a pro.

If we end round 2 with Ngata and Hodge I will be estatic.

Not too high on the Gocong pick, and I cede to SOBO and his knowledge, but the third seems a bit high for him, no? I've seen him going late on day two. Care to enlighten me SOBO?
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Unread postby HoodooMan » Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:26 pm

The thing I don't buy is Hawk to the Jets at 4 & Mario to the Packers at 5.

IMO, the top four picks in this draft are looking pretty set. Bush #1 to the Texans, Leinart #3 to the Titans, and Mario/Brick to the Saints & Jets.

While I think Hawk is the much better of the two defensive prospects, Mario seems to generally be the more highly regarded player, and with the Jets letting Abraham go, it just seems like a really good fit. The fact that the Jets also let Fabini go this offseason leads me to believe that Brick would make just as much sense as Mario if the Saints are, as rumored, more interested in Mario and planning to take him at #2.

Then I think it gets interesting at #5 if those 4 are indeed off the board. Unless the Packers like AJ Hawk as an OLB in their scheme, they already have Nick Barnett at MLB and therefore wouldn't need Hawk. And even though they've signed Ryan Pickett this offseason (and let Grady Jackson go), they still appear to be in need of some interior defensive linemen. That's why I could easily see either Bunkley or Ngata going as high as #5, which would likely result in neither of them falling to us at #12.

It could also allow AJ Hawk to fall far enough that a trade up wouldn't cost too much, which would be the ultimate need/talent match if Phil could make it happen.
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Unread postby Lebowski » Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:50 am

It could also allow AJ Hawk to fall far enough that a trade up wouldn't cost too much, which would be the ultimate need/talent match if Phil could make it happen.

I don't see Hawk falling past the Niners. Gut tells me he plays his Sundays on the frozen tundra tho.

Re: Trading Up

I just don't see Phil trading up in the first round. He's not the type of guy to give away the farm for one guy. We need multiple players on the front seven in this draft, not one.

I think if Ngata is there at 12, he's ours. If he's gone, a trade down is in play.

I could see Phil maybe trading back in to the late second round (with the flexibility of two 4ths) if he sees a player he wants that is still on the board.
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Unread postby swerb » Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:15 pm

The thing I don't buy is Hawk to the Jets at 4 & Mario to the Packers at 5.

I don't know. The temptation of lining up Jonathon Vilma and AJ Hawk next to each other for the next 5-6 years may be too much to pass on. The Jets could have two of the leagues top five LBs for until 2012.

With Peppers, Freeney, and Will Smith being the exceptions ... the majority of highly regarded DE's that have come into the league the last 5-6 years have failed to meet expectations.

We saw it first hand here with Courtney Brown, and then saw it with guys like Erasmus James, Kenechi Udeze, Michael Haynes, Jerome McDougle, and others I'm forgetting.

Maybe I'm a Buckeye homer, but I see Hawk as one of the biggest slam dunk Pro Bowler I've seen come into the draft in some time.

I think the drama of a potential trade up for AJ gets squashed early. Likely at #4, no later than #6. I hope I'm wrong.
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Unread postby HoodooMan » Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:36 pm

Lebowski wrote:I just don't see Phil trading up in the first round. He's not the type of guy to give away the farm for one guy. We need multiple players on the front seven in this draft, not one.


Well, I didn't mean to suggest we'd trade away our future for him. I think there's a realistic shot he falls to 8 or 9, which would be worth the move up.

I gave my thoughts on 4 & 5 above. I think the Niners go offense, unless they're really really mean and/or take some sadistic pleasure in watching Alex Smith get his ass kicked in. Vernon Davis could be the pick, or I could also see them go RB with either Williams or White. Whether it's Cutler or Young, I think the Raiders are going QB.
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Unread postby HoodooMan » Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:40 pm

Swerb wrote:We saw it first hand here with Courtney Brown, and then saw it with guys like Erasmus James, Kenechi Udeze, Michael Haynes, Jerome McDougle, and others I'm forgetting.


And we'll see it again with Mario. There are prospects practically guaranteed to be available at #12 that I'd prefer over him (like Lawson and Sims), because he plays tentative and as a result doesn't produce the way he should. That said, a lot of people (SOBO included) seem to really love him, and if my sense of his stock is accurate, he's gone in the top four picks.
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Unread postby Lebowski » Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:50 pm

I think there's a realistic shot he falls to 8 or 9, which would be worth the move up.

If he falls that far, it would be worth looking into a move up...I just dont see him falling to 8 or 9. He sure would be a great fit for our D tho.
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Unread postby Guest » Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:42 am

AJ will not drop below #5
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