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by Noodle » Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:05 pm
by Chris » Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:32 pm
by WiscTribeFan » Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:52 pm
Chris wrote:Look, if you're expecting anything out of Pavano, let's get real. And the second he becomes a problem I *GUARANTEE* you they cut him loose like a hooked fish. I am surprised Shapiro even signed him in the first place.
by Commodore Perry » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:34 pm
by fundamentals » Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:04 pm
Commodore Perry wrote:This makes me pull for Pavano even more. If he is a 15+ win guy for us, not only will that be a huge boost for our staff, the Yankees and their horrible fans will be LIVID. Yeah its a longshot, but it'd be sweet.
by jordan kramer » Wed Jan 28, 2009 8:57 pm
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Who cares about this crap?WE GOT A MUTHA FUCKIN EARTHQUAKE MACHINE!
by papacass » Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:17 pm
jordan kramer wrote:like 5 years ago i thought Pavano was gonna be the next big thing. he was a beast for the Marlins.
by Inspector Butters » Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:51 am
by jameseboy » Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:16 am
by TitoFrancona » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:21 pm
jameseboy wrote:200 innings and 12 and 13 would be gold...18 and 8 would be get your post season tickets...Pavano will either be good or hurt no in between...hurt it does not matter and good would be extremely good for this rotation
by Steve Buffum » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:32 pm
TitoFrancona wrote:jameseboy wrote:200 innings and 12 and 13 would be gold...18 and 8 would be get your post season tickets...Pavano will either be good or hurt no in between...hurt it does not matter and good would be extremely good for this rotationFor a team shooting for the playoffs, you would hope your #3 pitcher doesn't have a losing record. Gold? Maybe in terms of innings, but if his overall record is below .500, this team is going to have a serious problem winning the division.
by bryannyc » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:51 pm
by Jennifer » Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:18 pm
In the wake of the information in Joe Torre's yet-to-be-released book, the Yankees are considering a "non-disparagement" clause in future player and managerial contracts to prevent similar situations in the future.The clause would ensure that future books are "positive in tone" and "do not breach the sanctity of our clubhouse," an unnamed Yankees official told Newsday in its Thursday editions.
by MTF » Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:40 am
by fundamentals » Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:13 am
MTF wrote: On top of that is his need to show the world he can still pitch, something any guy would feel after the last couple of years he's had to live through. Mostly though, he wants to pitch well against the Yankees. He must absolutely hate the Yankees. He'll want to pitch like no guy has ever wanted to pitch before. Thanks Joe.
by hornet84 » Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:15 am
by fundamentals » Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:00 pm
by cb » Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:29 pm
by TitoFrancona » Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:51 pm
cb wrote:Although some Yankees players such as Jeter and catcher Jorge Posada have said that they'd prefer to read the book before commenting on its contents, former Yankees pitcher Carl Pavano condemned Torre's decision to divulge details of clubhouse matters. "I am extremely disappointed that someone I had a lot of respect for would make these type of comments in his upcoming book," Pavano said in a statement released to 1050 ESPN New York's Andrew Marchand through Pavano's agent, Tom O'Connell. "I wish nothing but the best for Joe Torre and my former Yankee teammates, but with that said it does explain why I haven't received any Christmas cards from Joe the last few years." http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3869467
by Jennifer » Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:53 am
"I really don’t think there’s anything in the book at all that’d I’d apologize for. I feel badly if people are taking it the wrong way. I’m not going to say I’m insensitive to it,” Torre said Friday night.“I think that’s what makes me who I am, because I have sensitivity. But I think I was very sensitive in writing the book.”
by Mr. X » Sat Jan 31, 2009 11:38 am
by TitoFrancona » Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:23 pm
Mr. X wrote:Torre's an ass. And we'll see what Pavano is made of this year. I can't see money being a huge factor for this guys since he's already banked a big contract. Hopefully sticking it to the Bankees and their fans will be enough for the guy.
by AGoodPerson » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:12 pm
by Jennifer » Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:58 pm
TitoFrancona wrote:Mr. X wrote:Torre's an ass. And we'll see what Pavano is made of this year. I can't see money being a huge factor for this guys since he's already banked a big contract. Hopefully sticking it to the Bankees and their fans will be enough for the guy.I'm neither a fan of Torre, nor a hater. I just respected him as a guy who was a very good ML player and a pretty good (not great) manager. So I don't personally think of him as an ass. Most of his players seemed to like him. But if you're basing your opinion of Joe Torre being an ass because of his book, I would assume that means you've read it and not forming that opinion based on a few excerpts as Torre said out of 500 pages. For one thing, I don't know enough about Pavano to say he's not a total jerk and I certainly wouldn't assume he's a great guy now just because he now wears an Indians' uniform. The uniform doesn't make the man. I'll reserve judgement on Pavano.
He was informative without compromising his team. He was refreshingly honest.
The Yankee playoff run in 2007 ended in a cloud of bugs on a warm September night in Cleveland. Torre says the biggest mistake he ever made as Yankee manager was not pulling his team from the field.
by fundamentals » Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:30 pm
by Commodore Perry » Sun Feb 08, 2009 1:59 pm
by Jennifer » Sun Feb 08, 2009 4:21 pm
Commodore Perry wrote:Hoynes had this to say about Pavano:http://www.cleveland.com/tribe/index.ss ... der_2.htmlSo Pavano was injured most of the time in NY, but it sounds like why they hated him is that when he did pitch he didn't seem to want to. He didn't like the pressure of pitching in NYC. Good luck CC...This makes me optimistic about the Pavano signing. Shapiro has stressed that Pavano is physically healthy and capable of pitching. He's going to have motivation to prove himself, and he's out from under the NY microscope. Maybe we'll get that "bulldog" back on the mound. Sure he won't be an ace, but he could be a very productive 4th starter.
by leadpipe » Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:05 am
by RobStad » Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:03 pm
by cozmeesah » Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:05 pm
by Jennifer » Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:00 pm
cozmeesah wrote:The Yankee playoff run in 2007 ended in a cloud of bugs on a warm September night in Cleveland. Torre says the biggest mistake he ever made as Yankee manager was not pulling his team from the field.I love how they always make it sound like the bugs weren't out there around the Tribe guys also. THEY had to deal with them too and didn't flail and wave around like a bunch of wussies. And hell, the Yankees themselves made it worse by spraying the bug spray all over. They were dumbasses who couldn't handle a few bugs. Professional athletes are supposed to be able to block out anything and focus. The Tribe guys were able to, so it stands to reason that the Yankees should have been able to handle it too.Should have taken his team off the field MY EYE. You're just pissed that the lowly Cleveland team and their pesky midges made Joba the Great look silly.
by tribefan333 » Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:57 pm
by Jennifer » Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:14 pm
tribefan333 wrote:Yes, he probably should have pulled his team off the field - the Indians should have too. But the way they act and speak as if the Midges came and disappeared with the changing of innings is still, to this day, an absolute joke. One that I love, however.
by tribefan333 » Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:17 pm
by Jennifer » Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:28 pm
tribefan333 wrote:The "they" was simply directed towards several Yankee players, personnel and fans. Not necessarily the two you mentioned - I veered off onto my own trail for a second.Sorry to dissolve your "gotcha!" moment, Katie.
by martyinnewyork » Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:50 pm
by peeker643 » Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:28 am
martyinnewyork wrote:Being at the midge game is one of the highlights of my sports-related life. Maybe even #1...
by Jennifer » Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:49 am
Peeker643 wrote:martyinnewyork wrote:Being at the midge game is one of the highlights of my sports-related life. Maybe even #1...Oddly enough, we were standing at the rail on the left field wall that night and were never bothered by a single bug.
by fundamentals » Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:37 am
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