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by **JoJo White** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:42 pm

Predictions on the uncommitted big names:

http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/co ... CID=901193

by **Bayou Tribe** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:27 am

JoJo, watch for Dexter Pratt to sign somewhere else (probably Ok St) in a couple of weeks. Not near the caliber of these guys, but nonetheless, pretty good 4 star power back.

by **JoJo White** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 12:38 am

Bayou Tribe wrote:JoJo, watch for Dexter Pratt to sign somewhere else (probably Ok St) in a couple of weeks. Not near the caliber of these guys, but nonetheless, pretty good 4 star power back.

Yeah, I've heard the rumors around Pratt and LSU over the last week. At first, the story was a clearinghouse issue; then it was "I didn't know there would be so many other RBs," then it's something else.

All told, not a really huge loss at RB for LSU as they were set at RB this year and are in pretty good shape with Lache Seastrunk in 2010. But, LB looks a little thin and if the plan was Pratt at LB, well...

EDIT - Every year, I say to myself, "I'm not going to follow recruiting," yet it's like an addiction and I end up following it religiously. Maybe next year I'll be so bitter at the whole recruiting game following the Jamarkus McFarland fiasco that I won't follow it, but who am I kidding...

by **Mcreek** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:59 am

I thought I read somwhere that Michigan is now Marcus Hall's new favorite b/c of the instant PT he would get there.

by **furls** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:30 pm

People close to Marcus Hall recruiting are saying that nothing has changed and that he is still 100% OSU. I have no first hand info, but these are guys that are generally right. FWIW, Hall would probably have immediate PT at OSU also on the second team. OL 2nd teamers get plenty of PT and with Shugarts injury status in doubt, Hall could realistically compete for the RT job next year.

I cannot believe that people are projecting Morgan Moses to UVA... seriously, the guy could not academically qualify for OSU. Does UVA admit guys with serious academic issues? Based on the rep of the university, I would find his admission very surprising. UNC is a possibility, but I was told that Moses would require some pretty serious exceptions no matter where he went, and that he could not qualify at OSU, hence the reason he was never offered and his official visit was cancelled.

Interesting to see that someone has projected Marlon Brown to OSU. That would be a pretty big surprise, although he is reported to really like OSU and supposedly the Bucks have as good a chance as anyone. If he were to come to OSU, he would almost certainly become the #2 guy immediately. Posey, Brown, and two of Stoneburner (who may be next year's #2 now anyways) Small, Fields, Jackson, and Sanzenbacher give the Buckeyes a formidable set of spread receivers.

by **Bayou Tribe** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:34 pm

Yeah, I've heard the rumors around Pratt and LSU over the last week. At first, the story was a clearinghouse issue; then it was "I didn't know there would be so many other RBs," then it's something else.

Apparently he came to BR to start the spring semester without having been cleared by the clearinghouse. That being said, LSU could not allow him to move into the on-campus student athlete apartments and he got pissed and went home. I guess he doesn't feel like LSU was doing enough, although I'm not sure what else they can do within the rules at this point.

by **JoJo White** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:59 pm

Interesting that Oklahoma St is becoming somewhat of a haven for recruits that can't get into other schools or where there are "issues" involved in an athlete's recruitment.

by **mattvan1** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:27 am

JoJo White wrote:Interesting that Oklahoma St is becoming somewhat of a haven for recruits that can't get into other schools or where there are "issues" involved in an athlete's recruitment.

Is becoming? Don't you mean "is reviving the recruiting of the Jimmy Johnson years"?

by **Mcreek** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:56 pm

Apparently last night on a Columbus TV station Wall to Wall sports Bill Kurelic the old recruiting guru said Marcus Hall told him Michigan was his leader FWIW

by **furls** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:50 pm

I have heard and read the same things, but I am not giving up on Marcus yet, although this is indeed an unforeseen set of circumstances. At some point you have to think that depth is certainly an issue, but it shouldn't necessarily be that way with Hall. I am nearly certain now that the Buckeyes will lose out on Boyd due to depth, but Hall to scUM is really surprising. Hall could go to scUM and immediately be the best OLman on their team, but he should be good enough to win some PT at OSU too. Perhaps he only wants to play LT because that is where the NFL money is. I am pretty sure that a healthy Adams beats out Hall for the job; he is every bit as athletic, has slightly better feet, and at 6'8" has the length that offensive coordinators dream about.

I hope that doesn't sound like sour grapes, it is not intended to. I would love to land Hall, but he is by no means a must have. OSU would be fine (most likely) with Shugarts and Adams starting outside with Longo and Fragel providing depth going forward into 2010 and 11.

by **Cerebral_DownTime** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:27 pm

Mcreek wrote:Apparently last night on a Columbus TV station Wall to Wall sports Bill Kurelic the old recruiting guru said Marcus Hall told him Michigan was his leader FWIW

This is true I watched it myself. He said OSU is still "very much in the running".......PT is obviously whats drawing him to scUM.

by **pup** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:31 pm

If you choose scUM because they suck and you can play quicker, good riddance.

WWWD?

Blitz the ever living shit right over him.

On every down.

by **Mcreek** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:02 am

I don't think it would be sour grapes losing out on Hall nor do I think its a huge loss because of what we might have in Fragel who apparently was destroying people in some of the All Star games.

Hall should have a talk with Jim Lachey the former AA and All pro who played both guard and Tackle at OSU. If your that good the NFL scouts and player personnel people will recognize those skills especially today with all of the post season tests they run on players both on campus workouts and the combines.

by **Chief24Wahoo** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:54 pm

If the Buckeyes can land Boyd, Brown, and Hall that'd be an amazing finish to the recruiting season. Unfortunately, I don't think Boyd wants to wait for at least 2 years to play behind Pryor so I don't think we'll get him. Brown I still think we have a chance at getting and I'm pretty sure Hall will wind up at OSU. We need to get at least 1 of the 3, 2 would be extremely satisfying, and all 3 would be absolutely incredible.

Go Bucks.

by **Cerebral_DownTime** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:27 pm

OSU has a pretty solid history of sending good O-Linemen to the NFL. I hope he comes here, if not do what Pup said and blitz him all day.

by **furls** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:39 pm

More important CDT is that DickRod does not have that rep. In his O, you are going to do very little traditional pass blocking. Another nice aspect of OSU's offense, though probably under appreciated by most, is that OSU runs about 1/2 zone blocking and 1/2 power/traditional run blocking. It really gives the players a chance to learn and showcase skills that NFL teams are interested in.

As for the sour grapes, I didn't want to sound like it was sour grapes toward Marcus. The point I am trying to make is that I would prefer both Adams and Shugarts to Hall.

None of the remaining 3 is a must get for the Bucks, any one of the 3 would be nice. That is a great place to be, and regardless of how this class winds down, it is the best class tressel has signed yet.

by **Chief24Wahoo** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:41 pm

Offensive line has been one of our weaknesses in the past couple seasons. This upcoming year we should be pretty good; young, but pretty dang good. I'm really liking a line of Adams, Boren, Brewster, Cordle/Browning, and Shugarts. However, you can never have enough depth on the O-Line, especially with Shugarts not going to be able to be ready in time for spring ball. And there's no way we can get through another season with Browning at right tackle...

by **danwismar** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:34 pm

FWIW...

There's a guy who posts on the free board at Scout who is considered by program insiders to be the most reliable authority on Marcus's Hall's situation....this guy is personally close with Marcus. He characterizes the current state of play with Hall as 95% OSU, 3% USC and 2% Tennessee.

He has reportedly eliminated Michigan and Illinois entirely.

I think he has one more visit (UT?) before announcing. Looks like he'll be a Buckeye.

Again...take with as many grains of salt as you require.

by **Mcreek** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:51 pm

I hope he is right. This recruitment has almost as much drama as the Pryor one last year. (whew)

by **Cerebral_DownTime** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:55 pm

What is this guy, the seconding coming of Orlando Pace?

by **Chief24Wahoo** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:08 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:What is this guy, the seconding coming of Orlando Pace?

No, but we've already got that in Mike Adams. Adams can be the best lineman we've had at OSU in quite some time if he can stay healthy.

However, a lot of people are VERY high on Hall. He's going to be an excellent tackle for us if we get him I think. And you can NEVER have enough offensive lineman on a team. I'm pretty sure he'll end up being a Buckeye...at least I hope.

by **Cerebral_DownTime** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:20 pm

Chief24Wahoo wrote:
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:What is this guy, the seconding coming of Orlando Pace?

No, but we've already got that in Mike Adams. Adams can be the best lineman we've had at OSU in quite some time if he can stay healthy.

However, a lot of people are VERY high on Hall. He's going to be an excellent tackle for us if we get him I think. And you can NEVER have enough offensive lineman on a team. I'm pretty sure he'll end up being a Buckeye...at least I hope.

Hey what part of Columbus are you in?

by **Chief24Wahoo** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:22 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
Chief24Wahoo wrote:
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:What is this guy, the seconding coming of Orlando Pace?

No, but we've already got that in Mike Adams. Adams can be the best lineman we've had at OSU in quite some time if he can stay healthy.

However, a lot of people are VERY high on Hall. He's going to be an excellent tackle for us if we get him I think. And you can NEVER have enough offensive lineman on a team. I'm pretty sure he'll end up being a Buckeye...at least I hope.

Hey what part of Columbus are you in?

I'm a sophomore at Ohio State so I'm stationed here for the school year. I'm originally from Youngstown and was born in Cleveland.

by **Cerebral_DownTime** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:57 pm

Chief24Wahoo wrote:
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
Chief24Wahoo wrote:
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:What is this guy, the seconding coming of Orlando Pace?

No, but we've already got that in Mike Adams. Adams can be the best lineman we've had at OSU in quite some time if he can stay healthy.

However, a lot of people are VERY high on Hall. He's going to be an excellent tackle for us if we get him I think. And you can NEVER have enough offensive lineman on a team. I'm pretty sure he'll end up being a Buckeye...at least I hope.

Hey what part of Columbus are you in?

I'm a sophomore at Ohio State so I'm stationed here for the school year. I'm originally from Youngstown and was born in Cleveland.

Nice. Attended OSU myself. Had alot of fun at that school. The Thirsty Scholar was my second home.

by **danwismar** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:15 pm

Some people see Hall as a prototype right tackle, while others think he could just as effectively slide down to guard. I doubt that he could start in '09 (I think Cordle and Boren will be the guards, and Adams and Shugarts/Browning the tackles) but he could conceivably be in the 2-deep at tackle or guard. He looked very good in the Army A-A Game (at RT)

He got offers from all the big boys, including USC.

By the way, he can't be the next Orlando Pace...because Mike Adams is the next Orlando Pace.

Edit: (oops...I see someone already beat me to that line.)

by **furls** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:18 pm

Nice. Attended OSU myself. Had alot of fun at that school. The Thirsty Scholar was my second home.

I was a Varsity Club guy myself. Their Roast Beef lunch special on Thursday was the shit.

I like Hall alot, but prefer Adams and Shugart. Line depth is a nice problem to have. I am not sure there is a starting spot for him next year, I actually think he may end up as a guard at OSU, or if he is good enough perhaps push Shugarts/Adams to guard. It is hard to project how these guys turn out, so who knows, he could be better than both. Man, wouldn't that be a great problem!

by **Chief24Wahoo** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:59 pm

I'm really high on Adams and Shugarts as well. Although this injury to Shugarts keeping him out of spring ball worries me a bit. There's no way we can go throw another season with Browning at tackle, he's just out of position there. I'm not going to completely give up on him because I think he can be a solid offensive lineman, just at guard...not tackle. IMO it's between him and Cordle for that last guard spot because there's no way Boren will be out of the starting lineup. Adams is going to be a wall at left tackle and we've already seen how talented Brewster is in the middle. Hopefully Hall can come here and learn from some of these guys and contribute in his sophomore year.

by **Cerebral_DownTime** » Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:52 pm

I was a Varsity Club guy myself. Their Roast Beef lunch special on Thursday was the shit.

Love the VC also. I was in there the day before the '02 Michigan game, Two scUM fans walked in and walked right out.

I'll be glad to see Alex Boone go. The guy has all the talent he is just empty between the ears. I always laugh when I think about Tress banning him from talking to the media. The O-Line we are putting together could be all very early round NFL picks down the road. Is there a better recruiter in that nation than the Vest?

by **Chief24Wahoo** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:08 am

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
I was a Varsity Club guy myself. Their Roast Beef lunch special on Thursday was the shit.

Love the VC also. I was in there the day before the '02 Michigan game, Two scUM fans walked in and walked right out.

I'll be glad to see Alex Boone go. The guy has all the talent he is just empty between the ears. I always laugh when I think about Tress banning him from talking to the media. The O-Line we are putting together could be all very early round NFL picks down the road. Is there a better recruiter in that nation than the Vest?

Pete Carroll is a hell of a recruiter, but in reality he has an easy job. Anywhere west of Texas and you want to play football at USC...it's the only big time program out west. Here in the midwest Tressel has to deal with Michigan, Penn State, and Notre Dame as big time programs; as well as programs on the rise like West Virginia, Michigan State, etc.

by **furls** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:14 pm

FWIW,

Hall has announced that scUM is officially out.

by **Mcreek** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 3:06 pm

This kid is all over the map, very impulsive like most 17 year olds lol I guess now he has a Miami, FLA trip left. Its looking pretty good for OSU as some have said all along.

by **aoxo1** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:23 pm

Chief24Wahoo wrote:
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
I was a Varsity Club guy myself. Their Roast Beef lunch special on Thursday was the shit.

Love the VC also. I was in there the day before the '02 Michigan game, Two scUM fans walked in and walked right out.

I'll be glad to see Alex Boone go. The guy has all the talent he is just empty between the ears. I always laugh when I think about Tress banning him from talking to the media. The O-Line we are putting together could be all very early round NFL picks down the road. Is there a better recruiter in that nation than the Vest?

Pete Carroll is a hell of a recruiter, but in reality he has an easy job. Anywhere west of Texas and you want to play football at USC...it's the only big time program out west. Here in the midwest Tressel has to deal with Michigan, Penn State, and Notre Dame as big time programs; as well as programs on the rise like West Virginia, Michigan State, etc.

That's why USC was such a power in the years before Carroll got there, what with their 2 shared Pac-10 titles in the 90s.

Give me a break. Carroll pulls in lots of top players from all over the country. No one else brings in the kind and numbers of players from all over that he manages to. Yeah, USC is the traditional best team out west, but UCLA/Cal/Oregon/Washington all have had very good programs. It is to Carroll's credit that USC has basically made it a race for 2nd place in the Pac-10 every year.

by **furls** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:33 am

Good points Aoxo1.

Pete Carroll is a hell of a recruiter, but in reality he has an easy job. Anywhere west of Texas and you want to play football at USC...it's the only big time program out west. Here in the midwest Tressel has to deal with Michigan, Penn State, and Notre Dame as big time programs; as well as programs on the rise like West Virginia, Michigan State, etc.

I will connect the dots. Carroll deserves the credit for filling the vacuum, USC is what is now because of
Carroll. TSV is actually doing something similar here. scUM is dying, at least in small part, due to some of the talent holes caused by TSV locking down the border. The rivalry has swung, and now the Big Ten is primarily between OSU and PSU. scUM relies/relied on Ohio players that they are no longer getting, and now Tressel is cherry picking PA too. This 09 class is ridiculous and rumors are now swirling that OSU may end with Hall, Boyd, and Marlon Brown (51, 52, 53 by rivals rankings). Wow.

by **Chief24Wahoo** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:53 am

Update on Hall and Boyd.

As many of you know, Hall has officially narrowed it down to OSU and Miami. And an inside Miami source would say he's 95% confident that Hall will NOT end up at Miami. This is pretty good evidence that Hall will end up at OSU like we all thought he would.

Now onto the real surprise, Boyd. My inside sources are letting us know that Boyd is announcing his decision tomorrow and it's most likely going to be OSU. In fact, OSU had a quarterback scheduled to visit this upcoming weekend, Austin Boucher. However, just recently his visit was cancelled. Boucher's biggest offer at the time was Toledo and it was said that if OSU wasn't going to get Boyd they were going to offer Boucher. However, the Boucher visit has been cancelled leading many to believe Boyd will be a Buckeye.

Only time will tell.

by **pod2dawg** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:13 am

Furls wrote:Good points Aoxo1.

This 09 class is ridiculous and rumors are now swirling that OSU may end with Hall, Boyd, and Marlon Brown (51, 52, 53 by rivals rankings). Wow.

I'll second that..WOW!!!!!!!!!!

by **Mcreek** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:09 pm

My inside sources are letting us know that Boyd is announcing his decision tomorrow and it's most likely going to be OSU. In fact,

And the Clemson inside sources say OSU is out and Clemson is the team to beat for Boyd

by **Chief24Wahoo** » Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:47 pm

Boyd will officially be announcing at 5:00 pm on Tuesday. Go Bucks.

by **Mcreek** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:15 am

On this Boyd recruitment, I have never experienced so much drama in my life on the internet. Allowing myself along with countless other adults to hypervenilate over the decision of a 17 year old's college decision was pretty embarassing yesterday :wha?:

by **Chief24Wahoo** » Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:57 pm

Boyd officially commits to Clemson...dayum.

by **pup** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:07 am

Chief24Wahoo wrote:Boyd officially commits to Clemson...dayum.

Freaking loser.

Afraid of competing for a spot. Go lose 25 times in the next 4 years ya bum!

by **Chief24Wahoo** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:16 am

Seriously. Guess he's content with playing in the Chick-Fil-A Bowl every year...

by **aoxo1** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:28 am

Chief24Wahoo wrote:Seriously. Guess he's content with playing in the Chick-Fil-A Bowl every year...

Maybe his goal is to have a decent shot at playing time so he can develop and play in the NFL. Or maybe he just wanted to be able to play for more than 1 or 2 years, if he doesn't make it to the NFL.

We all know Pryor is the starter barring disaster and that Boyd has no real chance of unseating him for the next 2, and possibly 3, years. If Pryor turns out to not be a great pro prospect by the time his junior year is over, Boyd would be looking at 1 year of starting. Meh, I can't blame kids for wanting to play when they only have a short window to do it.

When I see people criticize a guy for transferring just because he got beat out, that seems goofy to me. I applaud Pat Devlin for transferring; these guys only have a few years and if they are forced to the bench because there is either a guy who is a little bit better or because he is a year behind him they SHOULD transfer if they are starter quality players. Just like they SHOULD take into account the depth chart.

How rewarding is it to win even a National Championship when the only time you get in the game is when you're up by 30 in the 4th quarter?

by **pup** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:26 am

aoxo1 wrote:
Chief24Wahoo wrote:Seriously. Guess he's content with playing in the Chick-Fil-A Bowl every year...

Maybe his goal is to have a decent shot at playing time so he can develop and play in the NFL. Or maybe he just wanted to be able to play for more than 1 or 2 years, if he doesn't make it to the NFL.

We all know Pryor is the starter barring disaster and that Boyd has no real chance of unseating him for the next 2, and possibly 3, years. If Pryor turns out to not be a great pro prospect by the time his junior year is over, Boyd would be looking at 1 year of starting. Meh, I can't blame kids for wanting to play when they only have a short window to do it.

When I see people criticize a guy for transferring just because he got beat out, that seems goofy to me. I applaud Pat Devlin for transferring; these guys only have a few years and if they are forced to the bench because there is either a guy who is a little bit better or because he is a year behind him they SHOULD transfer if they are starter quality players. Just like they SHOULD take into account the depth chart.

How rewarding is it to win even a National Championship when the only time you get in the game is when you're up by 30 in the 4th quarter?

More rewarding than going 6-6.

by **fundamentals** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:37 am

Chief24Wahoo wrote:Boyd officially commits to Clemson...dayum.

Must be getting more cash from the alums there than in Columbus. :bunny:

Can't fault a guy for wanting to play right away but Clemson? Wow.

by **aoxo1** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 12:20 pm

Pup wrote:
aoxo1 wrote:
Chief24Wahoo wrote:Seriously. Guess he's content with playing in the Chick-Fil-A Bowl every year...

Maybe his goal is to have a decent shot at playing time so he can develop and play in the NFL. Or maybe he just wanted to be able to play for more than 1 or 2 years, if he doesn't make it to the NFL.

We all know Pryor is the starter barring disaster and that Boyd has no real chance of unseating him for the next 2, and possibly 3, years. If Pryor turns out to not be a great pro prospect by the time his junior year is over, Boyd would be looking at 1 year of starting. Meh, I can't blame kids for wanting to play when they only have a short window to do it.

When I see people criticize a guy for transferring just because he got beat out, that seems goofy to me. I applaud Pat Devlin for transferring; these guys only have a few years and if they are forced to the bench because there is either a guy who is a little bit better or because he is a year behind him they SHOULD transfer if they are starter quality players. Just like they SHOULD take into account the depth chart.

How rewarding is it to win even a National Championship when the only time you get in the game is when you're up by 30 in the 4th quarter?

More rewarding than going 6-6.

So you're the kind of guy who would prefer to be a member of someone's entourage and never know what could have been rather than trying to make something of yourself and finding out what you are capable of? I sincerely doubt that.

by **Chief24Wahoo** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:54 pm

Or he doesn't want to compete. He would redshirt if he came here and he knew that. He said he didn't have a problem with doing so, especially coming off a torn ACL. Therefore, he'd be the starting quarterback here either his redshirt sophomore or junior season and have at least 2 years of eligibility left.

Redshirting isn't the worst thing in the world...especially for a young quarterback. Look at Sam Bradford. Other big time players redshirted too, Michael Crabtree and Knowshown Moreno.

Not to mention is idol is Troy Smith. Someone who had an amazing career in Tressel's office and competed for a starting job with one of the most highly recruited high school quarterbacks in the country.

by **pod2dawg** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:17 pm

Austin Boucher is more surprised today than anyone. He was "told" by "sources" Boyd was going to be a Buck so he verballed to Miami, Oh and will join his brother there. Clemson swooped in from nowhere. (cash)

by **Chief24Wahoo** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:50 pm

pod2dawg wrote:Austin Boucher is more surprised today than anyone. He was "told" by "sources" Boyd was going to be a Buck so he verballed to Miami, Oh and will join his brother there. Clemson swooped in from nowhere.

Yeah, and moments after Boyd committed to Clemson, OSU offered Boucher. So, it'll be interesting to see if he accepts the Ohio State offer or if he goes to Miami with his brother.

by **pod2dawg** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:19 pm

spider sense tingling..he stays at Miami.

by **pup** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:58 am

aoxo1 wrote:
Pup wrote:
aoxo1 wrote:
Chief24Wahoo wrote:Seriously. Guess he's content with playing in the Chick-Fil-A Bowl every year...

Maybe his goal is to have a decent shot at playing time so he can develop and play in the NFL. Or maybe he just wanted to be able to play for more than 1 or 2 years, if he doesn't make it to the NFL.

We all know Pryor is the starter barring disaster and that Boyd has no real chance of unseating him for the next 2, and possibly 3, years. If Pryor turns out to not be a great pro prospect by the time his junior year is over, Boyd would be looking at 1 year of starting. Meh, I can't blame kids for wanting to play when they only have a short window to do it.

When I see people criticize a guy for transferring just because he got beat out, that seems goofy to me. I applaud Pat Devlin for transferring; these guys only have a few years and if they are forced to the bench because there is either a guy who is a little bit better or because he is a year behind him they SHOULD transfer if they are starter quality players. Just like they SHOULD take into account the depth chart.

How rewarding is it to win even a National Championship when the only time you get in the game is when you're up by 30 in the 4th quarter?

More rewarding than going 6-6.

So you're the kind of guy who would prefer to be a member of someone's entourage and never know what could have been rather than trying to make something of yourself and finding out what you are capable of? I sincerely doubt that.

No. I am the type of guy that would rather go challenge myself and try to play the highest level I had the offer at and live with consequences.

I don't care how good he is. He isn't winning a title at Clemson. Especially after they did the Bill Stewart/WV thing and hired a HC based on his players liking him and beating BC, Duke, Virginia and South Carolina. Getting hammered by FSU. And losing to an average Nebraska team. Freaking WR coach to HC. Nice choice.

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