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Beanie's Legacy

Unread postby Squints » Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:04 am

His words, not mine. Whose career was his most like? Where do you rank him among the non-Heisman winning RBs (Archie, Eddie, Hop, and Vic should be in their own class) given career numbers, importance to their team, playmaking ability, personal memories, etc.

I'll go with Keith Byers, both were the best weapon on their respective teams; Heisman candidates- Flutie ripped the Heisman from his hands; and yes, injuries were also part of each ones career and the team as a whole greatly suffered when they were out. Other thoughts?
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Re: Beanie's Legacy

Unread postby Toxicadam » Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:02 am

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Re: Beanie's Legacy

Unread postby peeker643 » Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:16 pm

Not to be a dick, but this is the Fiesta Bowl thread ( viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11092 ) . There are tons of opinions in there on Beanie's legacy and the thread itself is perfect to sum that up.

Why?

Because he was outstanding for awhile and then he quit playing. For whatever reason. It's always something when your either your body or mind is soft. I don't think it's the body.
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Re: Beanie's Legacy

Unread postby RCB1948 » Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:23 pm

Squints wrote:His words, not mine. Whose career was his most like? Where do you rank him among the non-Heisman winning RBs (Archie, Eddie, Hop, and Vic should be in their own class) given career numbers, importance to their team, playmaking ability, personal memories, etc.

I'll go with Keith Byers, both were the best weapon on their respective teams; Heisman candidates- Flutie ripped the Heisman from his hands; and yes, injuries were also part of each ones career and the team as a whole greatly suffered when they were out. Other thoughts?
Not particularly close to the Heisman group. Names like Tim Spencer, Antonio Pittman, Pepe Pearson, Pete Johnson come to mind. I don't see Beanie as an all-time great among OSU running backs. He only had one outstanding year. Lots of guys have done that. Very bottom of the top 10 maybe. I would definitely rate Griffin, George, Cassidy, Janowicz, Otis, Furgeson and Byars ahead of Wells. He's from a different era but Les Horvath must be in that group ahead of him too. Wells would be one of several others who I would consider for #9-#10 on the all-time list.
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Re: Beanie's Legacy

Unread postby FUDU » Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:27 pm

RCB1948 wrote:
Squints wrote:His words, not mine. Whose career was his most like? Where do you rank him among the non-Heisman winning RBs (Archie, Eddie, Hop, and Vic should be in their own class) given career numbers, importance to their team, playmaking ability, personal memories, etc.

I'll go with Keith Byers, both were the best weapon on their respective teams; Heisman candidates- Flutie ripped the Heisman from his hands; and yes, injuries were also part of each ones career and the team as a whole greatly suffered when they were out. Other thoughts?
Not particularly close to the Heisman group. Names like Tim Spencer, Antonio Pittman, Pepe Pearson, Pete Johnson come to mind. I don't see Beanie as an all-time great among OSU running backs. He only had one outstanding year. Lots of guys have done that. Very bottom of the top 10 maybe. I would definitely rate Griffin, George, Cassidy, Janowicz, Otis, Furgeson and Byers ahead of Wells. He would be one of several others who I would consider for #8-#10 on the all-time list.


IMO the phrase that best describe Beanie's days at OSU is "Disappointingly incomplete".

If he stayed and was healthy and put up Wells type numbers for one more year (1500-1700 yards) then I would say he is among the best below Archie(I'd say right below Eddie George) but it isn't going to happen.
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Re: Beanie's Legacy

Unread postby Squints » Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:22 pm

Peeker643 wrote:Not to be a dick, but this is the Fiesta Bowl thread ( viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11092 ) . There are tons of opinions in there on Beanie's legacy and the thread itself is perfect to sum that up.

Why?

Because he was outstanding for awhile and then he quit playing. For whatever reason. It's always something when your either your body or mind is soft. I don't think it's the body.



Sorry Peek, after reading so many, I went numb and cross-eyed. :-( :sad: :(
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Re: Beanie's Legacy

Unread postby peeker643 » Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:41 pm

Squints wrote:
Peeker643 wrote:Not to be a dick, but this is the Fiesta Bowl thread ( viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11092 ) . There are tons of opinions in there on Beanie's legacy and the thread itself is perfect to sum that up.

Why?

Because he was outstanding for awhile and then he quit playing. For whatever reason. It's always something when your either your body or mind is soft. I don't think it's the body.



Sorry Peek, after reading so many, I went numb and cross-eyed. :-( :sad: :(


Just figured if you were wondering where the responses to your thread were there's quite a few in there.

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Re: Beanie's Legacy

Unread postby Squints » Sat Jan 10, 2009 4:54 pm

FUDU wrote:
RCB1948 wrote:
Squints wrote:His words, not mine. Whose career was his most like? Where do you rank him among the non-Heisman winning RBs (Archie, Eddie, Hop, and Vic should be in their own class) given career numbers, importance to their team, playmaking ability, personal memories, etc.

I'll go with Keith Byers, both were the best weapon on their respective teams; Heisman candidates- Flutie ripped the Heisman from his hands; and yes, injuries were also part of each ones career and the team as a whole greatly suffered when they were out. Other thoughts?
Not particularly close to the Heisman group. Names like Tim Spencer, Antonio Pittman, Pepe Pearson, Pete Johnson come to mind. I don't see Beanie as an all-time great among OSU running backs. He only had one outstanding year. Lots of guys have done that. Very bottom of the top 10 maybe. I would definitely rate Griffin, George, Cassidy, Janowicz, Otis, Furgeson and Byers ahead of Wells. He would be one of several others who I would consider for #8-#10 on the all-time list.


IMO the phrase that best describe Beanie's days at OSU is "Disappointingly incomplete".

If he stayed and was healthy and put up Wells type numbers for one more year (1500-1700 yards) then I would say he is among the best below Archie(I'd say right below Eddie George) but it isn't going to happen.



"Disappointingly incomplete." Damn thats good. I would say another one that fits that phrase, for different reasons is Robert Smith. He could have been the best out of all of them, but no one has mentioned him in this thread, Fiesta Bowl thread Peek?, or if someone asked you to list the top 10 backs, Heisman or not, or even top 15, would he make it?
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Re: Beanie's Legacy

Unread postby jb » Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:16 pm

Peeker643 wrote:Not to be a dick, but this is the Fiesta Bowl thread ( viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11092 ) . There are tons of opinions in there on Beanie's legacy and the thread itself is perfect to sum that up.

Why?

Because he was outstanding for awhile and then he quit playing. For whatever reason. It's always something when your either your body or mind is soft. I don't think it's the body.



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Re: Beanie's Legacy

Unread postby FUDU » Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:41 pm

Scarecrow pic is more fitting Tin Man needed a heart not a brain.

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Re: Beanie's Legacy

Unread postby jordan kramer » Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:47 pm

let me start with this: Beanie is probably 100 times tougher than me at 6-1 235, compared to my athletic 5-9 150 frame (yes, i was a beast on my YSU intramural flag football team). but Beanie is a pussy. i watched maybe every snap he took at OSU and in every game he would get hurt and limp off to the sidelines. he had ridiculous potential that was never really met. Archie, Eddie, Vic, and Hopalong were 1000 times tougher than Beanie that's why they are OSU legends with Heisman trophy to their name. Beanie was good, but he could've been great
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Re: Beanie's Legacy

Unread postby buckeye319 » Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:38 am

Peeker643 wrote:Not to be a dick, but this is the Fiesta Bowl thread ( viewtopic.php?f=4&t=11092 ) . There are tons of opinions in there on Beanie's legacy and the thread itself is perfect to sum that up.

Why?

Because he was outstanding for awhile and then he quit playing. For whatever reason. It's always something when your either your body or mind is soft. I don't think it's the body.


I think Beanie is way too injury prone, but didn't he have to leave the game because of a concussion?
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