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by swerb » Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:21 am
by Guest » Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:36 am
by pup » Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:23 am
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by swerb » Fri Jan 02, 2009 12:49 pm
Pup wrote:Run away from the Chargers...fast. Anyone considering taking a Norv Turner coached team who is 31st against the pass, versus Peyton Manning needs to step away from the books.
For emphasis: 31st against the pass. Norv Turner is the HC. Peyton Manning.
by Action Boy » Fri Jan 02, 2009 2:09 pm
Swerb wrote:Pup wrote:Run away from the Chargers...fast. Anyone considering taking a Norv Turner coached team who is 31st against the pass, versus Peyton Manning needs to step away from the books.
For emphasis: 31st against the pass. Norv Turner is the HC. Peyton Manning.
Bottom line, every time in the playoffs that teams have been able to get to Manning with their pass rush, the Colts have lost. San Diego is able to pressure him, they win. I think they will be able to. Defense has been much better down the stretch, creating pressure and forcing turnovers.

by swerb » Fri Jan 02, 2009 2:47 pm
Action Boy wrote:All your points are well taken, but Norv Turner is a clown and I am being nice. Horrible coach and horrible game management strategy. He is kind of like Tony Romo, what big game has he ever won? The Colts running game has disappeared, but Peyton still lines up over center and he is the difference against a porous Chargers secondary. This game is like the old Cowboys and 49er hey days, when you took them every week no matter what, because you knew what you were getting week in and week out. The same with Peyton, he won't lose to Norv Turner. Just me early thoughts of the game.
by Action Boy » Fri Jan 02, 2009 5:25 pm
Swerb wrote:Action Boy wrote:All your points are well taken, but Norv Turner is a clown and I am being nice. Horrible coach and horrible game management strategy. He is kind of like Tony Romo, what big game has he ever won? The Colts running game has disappeared, but Peyton still lines up over center and he is the difference against a porous Chargers secondary. This game is like the old Cowboys and 49er hey days, when you took them every week no matter what, because you knew what you were getting week in and week out. The same with Peyton, he won't lose to Norv Turner. Just me early thoughts of the game.
Agree that Norv is a chump. But he beat Indy, in Indy, last year in the playoffs. Without Tomlinson. And without Rivers in the second half. Six weeks ago, Colts won 23-20 in SD, but on a 51 yd FG by Vinatieri at the buzzer. Indy's OL was healthier, and SD still wasn't putting any pressure on the passer, which they have done since they whacked Cottrel as DC a month ago.
So to me, to say Norv can't beat Indy ... tough to say that.
Chargers match up well with Indy. This is why they've won 4 of the last 5 against em, and could have easily made it 5 straight in week 11. Hard to say Manning struggles agasinst anyone, but he has clearly been a lesser QB against 3-4's in his career.
Norv is a chump though. Regardless, this should be a great game. Glad it got the Sat night slot.

by leadpipe » Fri Jan 02, 2009 7:43 pm
by swerb » Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:55 pm
Lead Pipe wrote:Norv Turner is horrible enough to be the single reason not to wager the game.
Swerb, The Lead Man agrees with many of your points, and the game on sheer data leans towards the SuperChargers ILO, however, you have a huge chance to feeling like a douche at games end because you backed Norv Turner with your hard earned cash.
by swerb » Fri Jan 02, 2009 11:59 pm
by Ziner » Sat Jan 03, 2009 12:37 am
by 4thQtrGlory » Sat Jan 03, 2009 12:51 am
Ziner wrote:Personally to me it is
Indy - no brainer, Peyton shows up and they win by 14
Atl - while Ryan doesnt play well Turner runs ALL over the Cards
Minnesota - Philly is flawed and if everyone goes one way to go the other
Miami - no reason, but they will get it done.

by Ziner » Sat Jan 03, 2009 12:57 am
4thQtrGlory wrote:Ziner wrote:Personally to me it is
Indy - no brainer, Peyton shows up and they win by 14
Atl - while Ryan doesnt play well Turner runs ALL over the Cards
Minnesota - Philly is flawed and if everyone goes one way to go the other
Miami - no reason, but they will get it done.
INdy, Atl, Philly, Balt. PERIOD
by 4thQtrGlory » Sat Jan 03, 2009 12:59 am
Ziner wrote:4thQtrGlory wrote:Ziner wrote:Personally to me it is
Indy - no brainer, Peyton shows up and they win by 14
Atl - while Ryan doesnt play well Turner runs ALL over the Cards
Minnesota - Philly is flawed and if everyone goes one way to go the other
Miami - no reason, but they will get it done.
INdy, Atl, Philly, Balt. PERIOD
0% chance all 4 road teams win

by Ziner » Sat Jan 03, 2009 1:07 am
4thQtrGlory wrote:Ziner wrote:4thQtrGlory wrote:Ziner wrote:Personally to me it is
Indy - no brainer, Peyton shows up and they win by 14
Atl - while Ryan doesnt play well Turner runs ALL over the Cards
Minnesota - Philly is flawed and if everyone goes one way to go the other
Miami - no reason, but they will get it done.
INdy, Atl, Philly, Balt. PERIOD
0% chance all 4 road teams win
yeah but....the christmas ale factor
by 4thQtrGlory » Sat Jan 03, 2009 1:40 am
Ziner wrote:4thQtrGlory wrote:Ziner wrote:4thQtrGlory wrote:Ziner wrote:Personally to me it is
Indy - no brainer, Peyton shows up and they win by 14
Atl - while Ryan doesnt play well Turner runs ALL over the Cards
Minnesota - Philly is flawed and if everyone goes one way to go the other
Miami - no reason, but they will get it done.
INdy, Atl, Philly, Balt. PERIOD
0% chance all 4 road teams win
yeah but....the christmas ale factor
touche'
its magic isn't it? i have 7 more

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by Erie Warrior » Sat Jan 03, 2009 4:48 pm
Swerb wrote:Just locked in ....
Arizona -1
San Diego +1 (-105)


by swerb » Sun Jan 04, 2009 1:35 am
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by swerb » Sun Jan 04, 2009 5:18 pm
by 4thQtrGlory » Sun Jan 04, 2009 5:37 pm
Swerb wrote:This GD Ravens defense and team has been making me miserable for 10 years now.

by leadpipe » Sun Jan 04, 2009 5:46 pm
Swerb wrote:Pennington with 7 INTs in 16 games this season. Four today.
This GD Ravens defense and team has been making me miserable for 10 years now.
by Ziner » Mon Jan 05, 2009 1:21 pm
Ziner wrote:Personally to me it is
Indy - no brainer, Peyton shows up and they win by 14
Atl - while Ryan doesnt play well Turner runs ALL over the Cards
Minnesota - Philly is flawed and if everyone goes one way to go the other
Miami - no reason, but they will get it done.

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