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by buckeyehoppy » Wed Jun 11, 2008 5:05 pm
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by buckeyehoppy » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:31 pm
Skating Tripods wrote:I changed the title of this thread to include most Blue Jackets offseason news, though I'd love the traffic around these parts.
by skatingtripods » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:37 pm
buckeyehoppy wrote:No sweat dude. You're the mod. With the responsibility comes the right.Just came over the wire: the Jackets have just acquired R.J. Umberger and a 4th round pick from Philly for the Jackets pick at 19 in the first and their third.Umberger is a player I have always liked and he's coming back to Columbus where he played collegiately with The Ohio State Buckeyes.If Umberger can be as deadly against the Wings as a Jacket as he was against the Pens as a Flyer, the Jackets might have someone special. Here's hoping they get him in the fold for a few years. He should be a solid addition for a Jackets team looking for some scoring punch.
by buckeyehoppy » Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:03 pm
Skating Tripods wrote:To me, it looks like a move where Howson's trying to better his team now instead of wait two or three years on a draftee. I like the idea of bettering the team now because they need to make the playoffs. But, Phoenix has easily had the best draft so far and practically stole Jokinen. That's another team to contend with in an already cluttered Western Conference. St. Louis might be a playoff team, and the obvious top 6 will stay right there.On another note, I still don't like the Filatov pick. They should have dangled that high 2nd to move up to 4th or 5th and get Schenn. That high 2nd and a 4th gets it done.
by skatingtripods » Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:15 pm
buckeyehoppy wrote:I don't like the fact that Columbus decided to go that young with Filatov. It's not a move I figured they would make. We'll have to see, but I don't see where Filatov makes immediate waves.
St. Louis and Phoenix, with the moves they have made today, are almost assuredly playoff contenders right now. Gretzky has been doing all the little things right in the desert and they might begin paying off next season for the Coyotes.
by buckeyehoppy » Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:49 pm
Skating Tripods wrote:The West continues to get better than the East. While Florida is going to be the doormat again with absolutely zero depth down the middle, probably making Nathan Horton a centerman and limiting his offensive potential, there are very few doormats in the West. The Kings will be weak yet again, and they have yet to answer their goaltending problem. Trading Cammalleri makes them even worse. The Oilers won't be any good either.Clearly, Detroit, Anaheim, San Jose, Dallas, Minnesota, and Calgary are all in already, barring injuries. This leaves two spots for St. Louis, Colorado, Columbus, Phoenix, and Chicago.Chicago just keeps getting better. Toews and Kane are tremendous talents. The D keeps maturing with Barker and Seabrook. I love their chances as a playoff team.Phoenix keeps getting better as well. Jokinen helps and they've got an awesome corps down the line. I think they're a year or two away, but they'll be a thorn and be in it for a while.St. Louis is a darkhorse this year without a doubt. Their D is insanely strong for the foreseeable future. They just picked up goaltending insurance with Chris Mason to lessen some of Legace's workload.Colorado's going to need Joe Sakic back because they have no real veteran presence. They've got lots of depth and growing to do on D.I see at least ten teams still ahead of Columbus. They need to address some needs on July 1 or they're still on the outside looking in and picking in the top 10 again.
by skatingtripods » Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:44 am
buckeyehoppy wrote:I'm in nearly complete agreement with you here, but how much realistically does Dallas have left in the tank?
As I understand it, Sakic is leaning toward retirement. If that's the case, Colorado becomes a non-factor as well.
St. Louis getting Mason is like stealing candy from a baby. I would expect them to be right in the hunt for next year's playoffs.
We'll see about Chicago. I'll agree with you all day on the guys you mentioned, but they still need a goalie. Khabibulin hardly strikes fear into many teams, but he is the avowed #1 GK for the Blackhawks. The longer he is #1 on their depth chart, the longer their playoff credentials have a question mark behind them.
Also, Anaheim and San Jose are getting longer in the tooth. They are still reliably in the playoffs, but only with good health.
by skatingtripods » Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:19 pm
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by buckeyehoppy » Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:34 pm
Skating Tripods wrote:First move of the day for Columbus, the Jackets trade Gilbert Brule to the Edmonton Oilers for gritty grinder Raffi Torres.This move definitely brings in a Hitchcock-type player for the Jackets.
Skating Tripods wrote:Biggest move of the day and it does not bode well for the Jackets.Defenseman Brian Campbell will be a Chicago Blackhawk for the next 8 seasons locking in a $57 million deal.
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by jack_tors » Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:42 pm
by buckeyehoppy » Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:07 pm
jack_tors wrote:Sean Avery has signed a 4 year, 15.5 million dollar deal with the Dallas Stars. http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app/?service=pag ... eid=367613On a side note, so far I am happy with the Blue Jackets moves. They needed to make some changes as that team seemed to fall asleep at times last season. They may not have been able to add another scorer to complement Nash but the defense should be better and they now have players more suited to Hitchcock's system.
by skatingtripods » Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:22 pm
buckeyehoppy wrote:TRIPODS!!!:Hey, someone is interloping on our hockey geekdom Dude, should we let him in or what?
I will STRONGLY disagree with you on Commodore, Tripods. Commodore is a great add and along with the addition of Tyutin and Backman, the Jackets have a definitely improved blue line. Commodore has won at every level he's played at (no small intangible there) and can lay the wood with the best of 'em.
jack_tors wrote:They may not have been able to add another scorer to complement Nash but the defense should be better and they now have players more suited to Hitchcock's system.
by jack_tors » Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:46 pm
Skating Tripods wrote:buckeyehoppy wrote:TRIPODS!!!:Hey, someone is interloping on our hockey geekdom Dude, should we let him in or what? Sure, why not? This isn't Russia, Danny. Is this Russia?
by skatingtripods » Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:36 pm
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by buckeyehoppy » Mon Jul 07, 2008 12:49 am
jack_tors wrote:Interesting story about Ken Hitchcock and how he will be spending this 4th of July. Hope everyone had a good 4th.. http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app/?service=pag ... eid=367601
by jack_tors » Mon Jul 07, 2008 3:26 pm
buckeyehoppy wrote:jack_tors wrote:Interesting story about Ken Hitchcock and how he will be spending this 4th of July. Hope everyone had a good 4th.. http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app/?service=pag ... eid=367601JT...great story on Hitch. Got a couple friends who are re-enactors, so I'll be e-mailing them the link.Again, great stuff!
by jack_tors » Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:16 am
by skatingtripods » Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:39 pm
jack_tors wrote:The Blue Jackets have inked R.J. Umberger to a 4 year extension. Info on the deal can be found below.. http://bluejackets.nhl.com/team/app/?se ... eid=367898
by buckeyehoppy » Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:35 pm
Skating Tripods wrote:jack_tors wrote:The Blue Jackets have inked R.J. Umberger to a 4 year extension. Info on the deal can be found below.. http://bluejackets.nhl.com/team/app/?se ... eid=3678983.75M cap hit.A bit of an overpayment IMO. I guess the extension is fine, but 4/12 would have been much better. 750k is a lot to play with in the cap.I'm really interested to see what Pascal Leclaire sucks out of them.
by skatingtripods » Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:54 am
buckeyehoppy wrote:Leclaire probably hits the mother lode with another good year.
Overall, I am pleased with the Jackets haul this off-season. It doesn't look like they improved much on paper. But the guys they got seem to play in Hitch's mold, so we'll see if the chemistry actually works with what they got.
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by SeeBeeJay » Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:12 pm
by SeeBeeJay » Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:34 pm
by skatingtripods » Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:50 pm
SeeBeeJay wrote:Any word on Vyborny's future (however small) with the club? He could still be a top 6 forward with this club.
UFA Commodore: 2 years too long, but a lot of guys got this treatment/ Rolston has 2 good years left, not 4. Redden has 3 "good" years left, not 6.
and the division got much weaker with Nashville's terrible offesason.
by buckeyehoppy » Sun Jul 20, 2008 8:04 pm
SeeBeeJay wrote:Clevelanders who discuss hockey! Sweet! only 17,996 more and we can bet the Barons back! My 2 cents on the CBJ's offseason:Torres 4 Brule: Great. G would have fallen out of favor fast in Hitch's new system, so it's a "something for nothing" deal. Brule may be a successful player, but it wasn't happening here.UFA Commodore: 2 years too long, but a lot of guys got this treatment/ Rolston has 2 good years left, not 4. Redden has 3 "good" years left, not 6.Fritche and Z for Backman/Tyutin: A wash until:CBJ signs UFA Huselius: Combine these moves, since Howson certainly did. The team became more of a Western Confernece team this offseason. For 2 years now, they were playing a more up-ice eastern conference style (albiet without the players to do it with). The revamped defence should make Pascal even stronger, but more importantly, there will be WAY more depth. Last year, this team had TWO 20 goal scorers. Two! That's only two more than I have, and I didn't even try. They conceiveably have a number of 20 goal scorers this year:Nash, Umberger (Given some PP time), Huselius, Torres (Please), Modin (Pretty Please), and HoRah! Derek Brassard! The dead weight is mostly gone (once we send OKT packing), and the division got much weaker with Nashville's terrible offesason. Am I an eternal CBJ optimist? Sure. But, you have to admit that what they were doing wasn't working. This offseason seems to be quite a few steps in the right direction.
by SeeBeeJay » Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:28 pm
by paddio » Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:31 pm
by skatingtripods » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:07 pm
SeeBeeJay wrote:1: Even with the market the way it is, I never saw Rolston coming to Columbus. Like a couple of other players his age, he wanted to go to a stronger contender. To bring him into the fold here, they would have had to blow him away with an offer, probably 5 years.
With a more balanced schedule, I think the central can get 4 teams in.
Chicago will make the playoffs, but only because a lot of low-playoff teams got much worse
Here's my best guess for the rundown, with the teams as they are now:1:Detroit (who could be as dominant a team as we have seen in years)2: San Jose (But Boyle won't be nearly as good in the West)3:Anaheim (depending on how they get under the cap)4:Dallas (The real drop comes inbetween the Ducks and the Stars)5: Calgary (who, I guess has enough talent left to win a division that got worse)6: Edmonton (who could win the Northwest)7: Chicago (will be second in the Central)8: Columbus (Because I pick them here every year)\9: Colorado (Starting to show age, and I bet they really hated Finger's rediculous offer)10: Minnesota (Went backwards, and got older. Terrible offseason)11: Phoenix (Defense really hurts with Ballard traded)12: Nashville (won't score much and traded away it's best defenseman)13: St. Louis (who will improve in 09-10)14: Vancouver (BAD offseason)15: Los Angeles (who somehow got worse AGAIN)But I'm an optimist.
by jack_tors » Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:34 am
by skatingtripods » Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:13 pm
jack_tors wrote:The Blue Jackets have signed forward Mike York to a one year deal. Terms of the contract were not disclosed. http://bluejackets.nhl.com/team/app/?se ... eid=368998Not exactly the signing I was hoping for but the veteran leadership should help.
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