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by swerb » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:44 pm
by waborat » Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:59 pm
by mrburns » Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:21 pm
by Hi Oktane » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:52 pm
Swerb wrote:Especially for the Republicans. Race this tight, state this big, week before Super Tuesday .... winner tonight between Romney and McCain becomes a touchdown favorite to win the nominaton.So many people are on the fence with this field. Vast majority of people I've talked to still aren't sold on one guy just yet. Winner tonight gets some of those of those fence sitters to come aboard.
Hillary needs to win, and she should. But if its close, Obama keeps the momentum.
by Mr. MacPhisto » Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:39 am
by Steve Buffum » Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:28 am
by Mr. MacPhisto » Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:52 am
Steve Buffum wrote:THIS is our choice? A nation of three hundred fucking fifty million people and THESE are the choices? Great googly moogly, we blow.
by mrburns » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:37 am
by Cerebral_DownTime » Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:27 am
Allburn wrote:I'm glad Giuliani is gone, he was the least qualified of the four major Republican players. He wasn't even really a Republican.Rudy really showed the world how to run a campaign, didn't he? Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina? Screw 'em!
by dpdad » Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:49 am
by swerb » Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:55 am
McCain is definitely the front runner at this point, though I think that's bad news for him. He's reportedly out of money going into Super Tuesday. He blew a lot doing Robocalls throughout Florida this past week. I received over 10 calls from McCain and his camp between the home line and the cell phone since last Thursday. All of them were pretty nasty towards Romney and said nothing about McCain's record. I think McCain was desperate and it worked for him, but he shot his load. He's hoping for help from Rudy in the NE on Super Tuesday to stay in this thing, even with the win. There's still rumors he'll take matching funds for the general election and that's the kiss of death for Republicans. Now he faces the prospect of an Anybody But McCain coalition. He's pursued Guiliani to soften that blow. I think many of the Rudy Guiliani supporters will swing to Romney, though some will follow McCain. What will the Huckabee supporters do? Do they realize it is a two man race and will they support Romney to stop McCain? I'd vote for him, but I don't like the prospect of McCain in November at all. He's old and looks like it. He's crotchety and doesn't have the charisma of Ronald Reagan.
by Mr. MacPhisto » Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:35 am
Swerb wrote:Mac, with that win down on your turf last night, the faucets of money are going to start to open up for McCain. In addition, Huckabee is staying in the race, and that hurts Romney. If Huckabee drops out, his religious right people would go to Romney. I'm actually starting to think that McCain might be saying to Huckabee, "wink, wink ... stay in ... and be my VP".
Lastly, the immediate Giuliani endorsement helps McCain as well. Without it, you're right, more of the Rudy people would have went to Mitt. But now? He'll lose some of em.
Get ready for McCain/Hillary. Which will be an interesting campaign. The two have a very cordial relationship, yet in an interview with Hillary last night, you could just tell there was a little part of her anxious to start tearing into her now likely opponent.
Can you picture what The Clinton Machine is going to do to McCain? Ads of him looking close to 100 years old, snippets of his angry outbursts at people. The voiceover ... "Do you want this man leading your country?"
Key to this campaign is going to be the state of the war. If things continue to go well in Iraq, McCain is going to be hard to beat. If things take a turn for the worse, The Clintons will link McCain to Bush, paint him as a war mongerer, and Hillary will start to make timed withdrawals a more prevalent theme to her campaign.
by Steve Buffum » Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:02 am
Mr. MacPhisto wrote:Steve Buffum wrote:THIS is our choice? A nation of three hundred fucking fifty million people and THESE are the choices? Great googly moogly, we blow.It's just over 300 million people Steve. We wouldn't even get to 350 if we included Canada. We do net a person every 13 seconds. That's just under 2.5 million added per year, so we're still around 20 years away from your quoted population.
by rawdawgexpress » Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:57 pm
by skatingtripods » Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:36 pm
by Mr. MacPhisto » Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:42 pm
Skating Tripods wrote:Here is Mitt Romney.[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGur36uVWxA[/youtube]
by Mr. MacPhisto » Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:54 pm
rawdawgexpress wrote:I really don't understand why Republicans don't like McCain. Rush Limbaugh was melting down today after Romney got whipped in Fla.Wasn't Romney the liberal pro-choice Mormon governor from the great state of Massachusetts? Romney just changed all his views to move to the Right prior to the campaign, and the Youtube evidence is pretty hilarious. Or did you guys just forget that?
Whereas McCain has been a consistent hawk, yet has the nuts to call out the Bush admin on the whole torture issue. Dude is a badass.
I've been discussing this upcoming election with my sister, who is a pretty big muckity muck with the Dems in Los Angelos. She's got lots of information about the innerworkings of the Dems. My own political leanings are also pretty leftist (I contributed to the Bill Richardson campaign). Both of us feel that a Hillary Clinton presidency would be very divisive and not productive to the country. She also runs a pretty amoral campaign, very dirty in fact. Both of us would SERIOUSLY consider voting McCain if he went up against Hillary.
So i'm not sure why you think Hillary will beat McCain. People hate the Clintons. Dems and Republicans alike.
I call bullshit. We just had eight years where Republicans controlled Congress and the Oval Office. They had a chance to control the deficit and try to keep our manufacturing jobs in this country. They failed miserably on both counts. Lets not mention another catastrophic Failure, the likely illegally prosecuted Iraqi war- costing us $500 billion and 5000 lives.
Republican gov't has led us into second tier status. Lets not pretend otherwise.
by Mr. MacPhisto » Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:05 pm
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