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by Ziner » Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:09 pm
by jack_tors » Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:28 pm
by Erie Warrior » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:17 pm


by FUDU » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:50 pm
by RickNashEquilibrium » Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:16 pm
by Ziner » Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:41 pm
Erie Warrior wrote:The best candidate in my district is an Independent, and projected to lose by double digits to both parties. So my dilemma is do I vote for the better candidate, knowing it's a wasted vote or do I vote for the lesser of 2 evils?
Its been a while since I can honestly say I like a candidate, so I think I'm tossing my vote his way regardless. I have a feeling voting for the Dems around here will be a wasted vote as well.
Ladies and gentlemen, its time to take a bite of the Ol' Shit Sandwich. God bless America.
by swerb » Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:05 am

by Cerebral_DownTime » Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:48 pm
Hey cunt, who is the leader of your party? Winning seats is all well and good, but you got exactly 2 years to find a face and a voice. Hell come 2012 the Tea Party might push their own cannidate, you can never tell with them.Whigs, LOL.
by Commodore Perry » Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:55 pm
Erie Warrior wrote: So my dilemma is do I vote for the better candidate, knowing it's a wasted vote or do I vote for the lesser of 2 evils?
by Cerebral_DownTime » Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:59 pm
Commodore Perry wrote:Erie Warrior wrote: So my dilemma is do I vote for the better candidate, knowing it's a wasted vote or do I vote for the lesser of 2 evils?
Your individual vote is already practically worthless. If you vote, or don't vote, the election outcome will be the same. So vote for who you like.
by Ziner » Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:20 pm
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:lol.
I care so little about thess cannidates that i'm not even going to vote. Why waste 45 minutes of my busy day on worthless cocksuckers and assholes? Kasich will win they we get to experience Taft 2.0. Strickland is a creep of peeping Tom like proportions and I don't want to vote for him.
All the people running for Congress should be put against a wall and shot.
Kasich and his drool covered fat bottom lip, I hope he ends up as a ditch for cum.Hey cunt, who is the leader of your party? Winning seats is all well and good, but you got exactly 2 years to find a face and a voice. Hell come 2012 the Tea Party might push their own cannidate, you can never tell with them.Whigs, LOL.
by jfiling » Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:23 pm
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Commodore Perry wrote:Erie Warrior wrote: So my dilemma is do I vote for the better candidate, knowing it's a wasted vote or do I vote for the lesser of 2 evils?
Your individual vote is already practically worthless. If you vote, or don't vote, the election outcome will be the same. So vote for who you like.
Pretty much this 1000 times.
If Kasich wins by anything less than 5 points i'll be surprised.
And I don't feel right about voting for Strickland just to vote against Kasich.
by Cerebral_DownTime » Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:35 pm
Ziner wrote:Cerebral_DownTime wrote:lol.
I care so little about thess cannidates that i'm not even going to vote. Why waste 45 minutes of my busy day on worthless cocksuckers and assholes? Kasich will win they we get to experience Taft 2.0. Strickland is a creep of peeping Tom like proportions and I don't want to vote for him.
All the people running for Congress should be put against a wall and shot.
Kasich and his drool covered fat bottom lip, I hope he ends up as a ditch for cum.Hey cunt, who is the leader of your party? Winning seats is all well and good, but you got exactly 2 years to find a face and a voice. Hell come 2012 the Tea Party might push their own cannidate, you can never tell with them.Whigs, LOL.
haha, your anger is inversely proportional to the number of cigerettes you smoke assuming you are still cutting back (keep it up btw)
First it isnt "my" party. It is the party I most associate with, but I am certainly not taking up for all the assholes in the party. I vote for who I most agree with and who I think will do the best job.
Secondly, like I told you before a face of the party will come around soon enough. The primaries are likely to start tomorrow so just relax. Who was the face of the Democratic party circa 2006?
Kinda hoping John Hoeven becomes a bigger name and throws his hat in the ring so people can learn more about the guy. I like him.
I hope the tea party pushes it's own candidate. Good for the process, I have long wanted more than 2 parties so why should I rip it now. Just because JB and Keith Olbermann like to call them hypocrites and racists doesn't make it so no matter how many times they repeat it. It also doesn't take away that at the core they have their points. (I should also add that if Palin is still the face of that movement it isn't going anywhere, I understand that).
The rest of what you said... well... yup. I voted early because they offer to mail it to you in Colorado. Not wasting any time today, just going to sit back and watch the Whigs take over the house and essentially handcuff Barry from doing anything else to crush the economy.
Who was the face of the Democratic party circa 2006?
by Ziner » Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:44 pm
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
Just assume anytime I call you a name it's me joking. Fucking nicotine.....
Obama was still a rising name and I ask you to look no further than 2004 for the Dems. They waited and waited and ended up with John Fucking Kerry. You don't want to end up with John Kerry do you? Of course not, nobody wants John Kerry.
I hear George Romero is putting together the campaign for McCain 2012.

by FUDU » Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:50 pm
I've always supported a person's right and choice to not vote. The bottom line is if you do not support the candidate and their POV/ideology then why would you give them your vote of support? Not to mention how much I hate "you have to vote for somebody" POV. Voting for the lesser of two or more evils does not equate to a choice or equate to a good use of a vote.Agreeing with everything here, which is why I get so pissed when someone says voting for a minor party is a wasted vote. Only a moron would think his vote counts more when he votes for the winner, unless the winner literally won by one vote.
And I'm abstaining once again from voting, because everyone that shows up on my ballot is slime. If I thought the "one vote margin" rule might apply in the Sutton-Ganley race, I might show up and vote for Ganley, even though he's scum. Since it doesn't, I won't.
by jfiling » Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:53 pm
FUDU wrote:Agreeing with everything here, which is why I get so pissed when someone says voting for a minor party is a wasted vote. Only a moron would think his vote counts more when he votes for the winner, unless the winner literally won by one vote.
And I'm abstaining once again from voting, because everyone that shows up on my ballot is slime. If I thought the "one vote margin" rule might apply in the Sutton-Ganley race, I might show up and vote for Ganley, even though he's scum. Since it doesn't, I won't.
I've always supported a person's right and choice to not vote. The bottom line is if you do not support the candidate and their POV/ideology then why would you give them your vote of support? Not to mention how much I hate "you have to vote for somebody" POV. Voting for the lesser of two or more evils does not equate to a choice or equate to a good use of a vote.
by FUDU » Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:59 pm
Agreed. Problem is those people equate voting with a right to do whatever afterward, like complaining. What a person really has no business complaining about is if their guy didn't get in and they didn't vote, then it's tough shit get to the booth.jfiling wrote:FUDU wrote:Agreeing with everything here, which is why I get so pissed when someone says voting for a minor party is a wasted vote. Only a moron would think his vote counts more when he votes for the winner, unless the winner literally won by one vote.
And I'm abstaining once again from voting, because everyone that shows up on my ballot is slime. If I thought the "one vote margin" rule might apply in the Sutton-Ganley race, I might show up and vote for Ganley, even though he's scum. Since it doesn't, I won't.
I've always supported a person's right and choice to not vote. The bottom line is if you do not support the candidate and their POV/ideology then why would you give them your vote of support? Not to mention how much I hate "you have to vote for somebody" POV. Voting for the lesser of two or more evils does not equate to a choice or equate to a good use of a vote.
This reminds me of one other thing that drives me nuts among the "you must vote" tools. I am so sick of hearing "if you don't vote, then you don't have the right to complain". The way I see it, if you vote for the winner, you have no right to complain about his/her performance. You helped put that asshole into office. Live with it silently.
by exiledbuckeye » Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:41 pm
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Obama was still a rising name and I ask you to look no further than 2004 for the Dems. They waited and waited and ended up with John Fucking Kerry. You don't want to end up with John Kerry do you? Of course not, nobody wants John Kerry.

by Ziner » Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:45 pm

by FUDU » Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:46 pm
by jfiling » Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:52 pm

by swerb » Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:07 pm
by Cerebral_DownTime » Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:42 pm
Ziner wrote:Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
Just assume anytime I call you a name it's me joking. Fucking nicotine.....
I know, how is the cutting back going? Just go cold turkey man... the problem is when my wife did it she had to give up alcohol for about 6 months. I know I would have a damn hard time doing that.
by Madre Hill, Superstar » Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:49 pm
swerb wrote:Kerry was an awful candidate. But I agree with CDT, the Republicans have no strong candidate right now that is likely to run. Its early, and things can change, but it is resembling the Dems situation two years before the '04 election.

by Cerebral_DownTime » Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:53 pm
Madre Hill, Superstar wrote: To be honest, I really think Romney could beat Obama but he's got a long haul to go with his own party.
by Ziner » Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:58 pm
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Madre Hill, Superstar wrote: To be honest, I really think Romney could beat Obama but he's got a long haul to go with his own party.
I don't think Romney would fair well in the southern primaries.
by jack_tors » Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:01 pm
by Ziner » Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:14 pm
jack_tors wrote:Really Kentucky? Rand fucking Paul? Thats the best you can come up with?
by jack_tors » Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:16 pm
Ziner wrote:jack_tors wrote:Really Kentucky? Rand fucking Paul? Thats the best you can come up with?
Yeah, Ol' crazy Kentucky, how dare they send a person who is not a career politician, who could look at thing from a different point of view, to the senate. Nutjobs. Sheesh, he even believes in a limited government.
by Ziner » Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:23 pm
by Bayou Tribe » Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:30 pm
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Madre Hill, Superstar wrote: To be honest, I really think Romney could beat Obama but he's got a long haul to go with his own party.
I don't think Romney would fair well in the southern primaries.
by jack_tors » Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:32 pm
Ziner wrote:He is one of 100. It wouldnt hurt our government to have some new voices. That's all I am saying. You may think he is a nut job for whatever reason, but that doesnt mean he has legitimate points and stances. He is different from most of the establishment currently. Not sure how that isnt seen as a good thing. It isnt as if he has unchecked power to abolish all government programs.

by skatingtripods » Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:52 pm
by Bayou Tribe » Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:57 pm
skatingtripods wrote:Marco Rubio impressed me with his speech tonight. He looks to be the next up-and-comer in the GOP.
by skatingtripods » Tue Nov 02, 2010 11:05 pm
Bayou Tribe wrote:skatingtripods wrote:Marco Rubio impressed me with his speech tonight. He looks to be the next up-and-comer in the GOP.
Couldn't agree more. He was very reserved and mature while being completely confident and under control. Basically came out and told the republican crowd not to start sucking each others' dicks just yet.
by idoctribefan » Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:25 am

by RickNashEquilibrium » Wed Nov 03, 2010 1:57 pm
by Erie Warrior » Wed Nov 03, 2010 2:56 pm
Erie Warrior wrote:The best candidate in my district is an Independent, and projected to lose by double digits to both parties.


by jfiling » Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:32 pm
FUDU wrote:Agreed. Problem is those people equate voting with a right to do whatever afterward, like complaining. What a person really has no business complaining about is if their guy didn't get in and they didn't vote, then it's tough shit get to the booth.
Something I noticed today, no large groups of people campaigning outside the voting facility. Maybe I missed something but did they put a stop to this recently? Relieving and refreshing.
by peeker643 » Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:42 pm
jfiling wrote:FUDU wrote:Agreed. Problem is those people equate voting with a right to do whatever afterward, like complaining. What a person really has no business complaining about is if their guy didn't get in and they didn't vote, then it's tough shit get to the booth.
Something I noticed today, no large groups of people campaigning outside the voting facility. Maybe I missed something but did they put a stop to this recently? Relieving and refreshing.
Some guy at CNBC.com put up a post I wish I had seen yesterday. It's called "It's Okay That You're Not Voting Today", and it makes a ton of sense.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/39970869
by jfiling » Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:43 pm
by Orenthal » Wed Nov 03, 2010 7:06 pm
idoctribefan wrote:I can't believe 125,155 assholes voted for Bridget McCafferty. Thankfully she still lost.
by Erie Warrior » Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:50 pm
peeker643 wrote: As for now, it'll have to really hit home. Individuals who reach me and issues like schools that determine the value of homes, neighborhoods and communities.


by peeker643 » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:08 pm
Erie Warrior wrote:peeker643 wrote: As for now, it'll have to really hit home. Individuals who reach me and issues like schools that determine the value of homes, neighborhoods and communities.
You folks still have to pass a levy every time someone needs a new pencil sharpener?
by Erie Warrior » Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:26 pm


by Ziner » Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:30 pm
Erie Warrior wrote:That funding system has been declared illegal twice, then (historically) republicans take the bench and the ruling is overturned. That's why I left. Schools mishandle money, just like every business, but shit rolls downhill, and you should never be able to vote no to kids.
I totally understand the disenfranchised public thing. I'm pretty much there my self, but the "I Voted" sticker is good for kids to see.
by Fire Marshall Bill » Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:17 am
by leadpipe » Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:43 am
by Erie Warrior » Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:26 pm
leadpipe wrote:Warrior, Ziner, Peeker.....anyone with young children or interested in education....have you guys seen the new documentary "Waiting for Superman"
Usually I wouldn't recommend something that basically will either A. Make you cry or B. Jump off a cliff, but if ya got some kids and have an interest in the future, you might wanna take a look.


by Bayou Tribe » Thu Nov 04, 2010 4:48 pm
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