jfiling wrote:dem425 wrote:TO Orenthal: I retired from Mentor, but spent 2 years prior in Mentor/Lake and 6 years prior to that in Euclid (sworn and civilian).
Yep, and you also were named Officer of the Year in 1989 in Mentor, the same year you damn near killed a girl over a leather jacket. Why didn't you mention that?
You wanna talk about public records j? The shit you find in those? Why don't we get into that and you can tell us all how some of the stuff in yours was a mistake and maybe someone had the facts wrong and it wasn't as clear as it may have appeared initially.
We can talk about that can't we? I mean it's in one of these threads somewhere. Maybe the one where the Twinsburg officer was shot 4 times in the head...his gun still in his holster...you remember any of this?
When you wrote:
I can come up with plenty of reasons where the alleged could claim self-defense. Can you tell me why a guy would allow a cop to cuff him, in a situation where you would presume you are on camera, except the dipshit Twinsburg cops apparently have cars like this one with non-working cameras (and I have my suspicions about that), and then shoot him with a registered firearm when he had no criminal record? It all stinks, but hey, let's take the dead cops side and fry this guy before having any idea what actually happened.
I like the bold. Not only are you a Grade A ahole but you're a hypocritical POS.
This ring a bell?
I will freely admit that I am prone to conspiracy theories, and I find it interesting that on this particular day that the fallen cop somehow forgot to put the videotape into his camera. That is something I can be attacked for, because I am nuts when it comes to stuff like that, even though it usually ends up being innocent.
Ding-ding-ding.
I'm willing to let the facts play out.
Sure, with cop-killers who put four in the head of an officer who's yet to draw his gun. You're a fact playing out mofo then. Little different in this case it would appear. You're either that hypocritical POS or you know all the facts. If it's the latter I sincerely apologize.
Postby Greener » Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:34 am
Brian,
I must say as a person who worked with both your uncles at the tail end of their careers, I greatly appreciate your heart filled passionate responses. It always amazes me that people like this jfiling, who in my opinion, based on his opinions is a fucking piece of shit(yes I made it personal), can form opinions on circumstances described in the media, and those people have absolutely no experience or training in these matters. Do you people really believe all the details of in incident as being released?
How can anyone hypothesize as to what happened at that shoot, myself included, someone who has worked investigations involving police shootings, where the coppers were the victims and the shooters. The exact circumstances of the case are known only to those conducting the investigation, and in some cases, it takes external agency assistance to conduct the full investigation, which can also take quite a bit of time.
As far the gung-ho, police officers that Mr. jfiling thinks are such assholes, I would point out to him, that if his mother, father, daughter, wife, sister, or brother were being held hostage, or in some other type of peril, that may be the type of officer needed to take of the situation. I will not post some crap on here about all cops being good cops, and yes law enforcement has their own issues, however, when compared to the number of lawyers that are disbarred or doctors who loose their license to practice medicine, we are doing fairly well.
I don't know what jfliling does for a living, nor do I really care, but unless its a job, that includes kissing your wife and kids good-bye, and then them watching you leave and not knowing if you will come home at night, because some wack job just killed you for doing your job, then he can feel free to criticize the boys in blue for doing their job.
It is a free county, and everyone is entitled to their opinion, including jfiling, and I too am entitled to my opinion and my opinion is that jfiling is an asshole. Have a great day.
Green
That about sums it up.
I'm right here brother. Take your sad shots here. It's probably a better opportunity than making your point by disagreeing with the OP and then citing his conduct and merit awards.
Or we can take your sage advice and let the facts play out like 50 of us said earlier.
Your call.
