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by consigliere » Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:27 am
by Bayou Tribe » Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:43 am
by mistero » Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:30 am
by Bayou Tribe » Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:34 am
mistero wrote:Neighbor girl has swine flu. She's stable but pretty sick. My daughter was playing at her house all last week. It's coming to my kids I fear.
by aoxo1 » Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:37 am
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by Cerebral_DownTime » Mon Oct 19, 2009 1:09 pm
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by Bayou Tribe » Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:00 pm
by Cerebral_DownTime » Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:37 pm
Bayou Tribe wrote:CDT - nice avatar. What were the official numbers, about 250 kills from Oct to Jan?
by Fire Marshall Bill » Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:59 pm
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Bayou Tribe wrote:CDT - nice avatar. What were the official numbers, about 250 kills from Oct to Jan?Off Topic:Color me impressed, you know your WWII Snipers. According to Wikipedia, he had 225 confirmed kills including 11 enemy snipers. They based that on retrieved Nazi dog tags, but obviously in some situations it would be impossible to retrieve them in the middle of a battle. IMO the propoganda campaign surrounding Zaytsev was arguably the most important act of the Russian involement of WWII, it created a ground swell of support and helped turn the tide of the Battle of Stalingrad. That Russian winter was pretty helpful too.Snipercentral.com has him listed as having 400 confirmed kills. In his memoirs I believe he said he lost count. He isn't even in the top 10 of kills by Russian Snipers, Ivan Sidorenko had 500 kills in the battle of Moscow. Finnish sniper Simo Hayha aka "White Death" had 542 (505 confirmed by the Russians themselves) friggin kills in the Winter War with Russia from November 1939 to March of 1940. He also didn't use a scope, which is insane.
by FUDU » Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:06 pm
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by mistero » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:37 am
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by WarAdmiral » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:20 pm
by aoxo1 » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:46 pm
WarAdmiral wrote:I was on the fence about getting the vac, till I watched this. I have never had one, so I am taking my chances, and not getting one. My kids have had them before, so I was ok with them getting it, than my wife said no, and I am ok with that also, but one is sick today, and three kids have it, from his class.
During the first 6 months of life, infants could receive about 4 milligrams of aluminum from vaccines. That’s not very much: a milligram is one-thousandth of a gram and a gram is the weight of one-fifth of a teaspoon of water. During the same period, babies will also receive about 10 milligrams of aluminum in breast milk, about 40 milligrams in infant formula, or about 120 milligrams in soy-based formula.All babies are either breast-fed or bottle-fed. Because both breast milk and infant formula contain aluminum, all babies have small quantities of aluminum in their bloodstreams all the time. The amount is very small: about 5 nanograms (billionths of a gram) per milliliter of blood (about one-fifth of a teaspoon). Indeed, the quantity of aluminum in vaccines is so small that even after an injection of vaccines, the amount of aluminum in a baby’s blood does not detectably change. In contrast, the amount of aluminum in the bloodstreams of people who suffer health problems from aluminum is at least 100 times greater than the amount found in the bloodstreams of healthy people.
In 1976, there was a small risk of GBS following influenza (swine flu) vaccination (approximately 1 additional case per 100,000 people who received the swine flu vaccine). That number of GBS cases was slightly higher than the background rate for GBS. Since then, numerous studies have been done to evaluate if other flu vaccines were associated with GBS. In most studies, no association was found, but two studies suggested that approximately 1 additional person out of 1 million vaccinated people may be at risk for GBS associated with the seasonal influenza vaccine. It is important to keep in mind that severe illness and possible death can be associated with influenza, and vaccination is the best way to prevent influenza infection and its complications.
Three ecological studies performed in 3 different countries compared the incidence of autism with thimerosal exposure from vaccines. In each case, the nationwide removal of thimerosal—which occurred in 1992 in Europe and in 2001 in the United States—allowed robust comparisons of vaccination with thimerosal‐containing and thimerosal‐free products, as follows:In Sweden and Denmark, researchers found a relatively stable incidence of autism when thimerosal‐containing vaccines were in use (1980–1990), including years when children were exposed to as much as 200 μg of ethylmercury (concentrations similar to peak US exposures). However, in 1990, a steady increase in the incidence of autism began in both countries and continued through the end of the study period in 2000, despite the removal of thimerosal from vaccines in 1992.In Denmark, researchers performed a study comparing the incidence of autism in children who had received 200 μg (1961–1970), 125 μg (1970–1992), or 0 μg of thimerosal (1992–2000) and again demonstrated no relationship between thimerosal exposure and autism.In Quebec, researchers grouped 27,749 children from 55 schools by date of birth and estimated thimerosal exposure on the basis of the corresponding Ministry of Health vaccine schedules. School records were obtained to determine age‐specific rates of pervasive developmental disorder. Thimerosal exposure and pervasive developmental disorder diagnosis were found to be independent variables. Similar to previous analyses, the highest rates of pervasive developmental disorder were found in cohorts exposed to thimerosal‐free vaccines. The results were unchanged when both exposure and outcome definitions varied.Four cohort studies that examined thimerosal exposure and autism have been performed, as follows:In Denmark, researchers examined >1200 children with autism that was identified during 1990–1996, which comprised 3 million person‐years. They found that the risk of autism did not differ between children vaccinated with thimerosal‐containing vaccines and those vaccinated with thimerosal‐free vaccines or between children who received greater or lower quantities of thimerosal. They also found that the rates of autism increased after the removal of thimerosal from all vaccines.In the United States, using the Vaccine Safety Data Link, researchers at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention examined 140,887 US children born during 1991–1999, including >200 children with autism. The researchers found no relationship between receipt of thimerosal‐containing vaccines and autism.In England, researchers prospectively followed 12,810 children for whom they had complete vaccination records who were born during 1991–1992, and they found no relationship between early thimerosal exposure and deleterious neurological or psychological outcomes.In the United Kingdom, researchers evaluated the vaccination records of 100,572 children born during 1988–1997, using the General Practice Research Database, 104 of whom were affected with autism. No relationship between thimerosal exposure and autism diagnosis was observed.
by aoxo1 » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:51 pm
by Bill the Butcher » Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:54 am
4thQtrGlory wrote:If we got all that, i would hang a browns flag from my boner for 2 weeks straight...
by Bill the Butcher » Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:12 am
by jfiling » Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:27 am
Bill the Butcher wrote:Slight tangent...Things like these make it hard for me to believe there is a God. Well, allow me to rephrase... a God that cares.http://www.huliq.com/8059/87832/celebrities-support-woman-help-woman-disabled-flu-vaccineYouTube it if you want too. It's just terrible.
by Bill the Butcher » Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:32 am
by jfiling » Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:39 am
Bill the Butcher wrote:lol yaI didn't fully read the article before posting it. I just wanted to post any link regarding the incident to show some legitimacy.But whether or not that particular incident is real or not, the condition itself is real. And it sucks.
by Bill the Butcher » Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:44 am
by mistero » Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:14 am
by mistero » Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:01 pm
by jb » Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:55 pm
by fundamentals » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:28 pm
JB wrote:If y'all hadn't run Mac off the domain with the college sports brewhaha, we could get a definitive answer on this issue.
by mistero » Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:53 pm
by FUDU » Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:43 pm
mistero wrote:My wife and kids just waited 5 hours OUTSIDE at the North Ridgeville education center to get their swine flu shots. They ran out of injections , so the family got the inhaled version. I'm just happy they got it. Hundreds of people are still in line. Surreal.
by MartyM » Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:16 pm
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