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by aoxo1 » Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:11 pm

by idoctribefan » Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:02 pm
exiledbuckeye wrote:
http://mediamatters.org/research/200910130049
Including the background on the "Barack the Magic Negro" BS.
Some of my other favorites:
"We are being told that we have to hope [Obama] succeeds, that we have to bend over, grab the ankles ... because his father was black."
"Obama's entire economic program is reparations."
Obama is "Halfrican-American."
Limbaugh suggests Obama would not have acted on Somali pirates if he'd known they were "actually young, black Muslim teenagers."
you can't criticize the little black man-child. You just can't do it, 'cause it's just not right, It's not fair. He's such a victim."
Limbaugh responded to a Reuters report about a University of Chicago study that found that "a majority of young blacks feel alienated from today's government" by asserting, "Why would that be? The government's been taking care of them their whole lives."
Limbaugh called illegal immigrants an "invasive species."

by exiledbuckeye » Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:20 pm
by exiledbuckeye » Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:22 pm
by Cerebral_DownTime » Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:28 pm
Orenthal wrote:if anything, the only way the people of this country are ever going to get ahead is if the government stops being so controlling, intrusive and socialistic.Yeah, it's not like the Bush Admin had Americans illegally spied on or anything...
Oh wait. Yes he did.
It's not like the Bush Admin tried to paint everyone against his stupid war as unpatriotic.
Oh wait. They did that too.
It's not like the Bush Admin bailed out companies that were going under. (Which is Socialism, the Goverment saving companies from going out of business)
Oh wait.....
As a frequent listener to the show I can tell you he railed against all those policies to the point the White House called him to ask which side he was on, and to apply pressure to let up...
...but continue with the uninformed almost religious zeal of hate for the guy. BTW where are all the quotes or sources to all this hate he spews? Seems to me the guy is no more divisive then any of the crew on here slamming him.
Oh and the NFL can do what it wants, but I think their reasoning is flawed and evidence of hyperbole that makes rational discussion impossible.
by Stu » Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:15 pm
exiledbuckeye wrote:I have to say that I find it pretty hilarious that the usual suspects who like to hype the "free market" think that a private organization should have to admit a member who they find to be too divisive and polarizing to further their business interests.
by idoctribefan » Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:19 pm
exiledbuckeye wrote:Are racist jokes okay because they're jokes?

by Stu » Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:21 pm
idoctribefan wrote:exiledbuckeye wrote:Are racist jokes okay because they're jokes?
The only one of those quotes that could be construed as racist is "the little black man-child". And that one isn't really racist, it's just that he stuck the word black in there where it probably didn't need to be. Barack Obama is black. Why can't you call black people "black"? What's hilarious is when people whisper the word "black" to describe someone. Like it's some kind of dirty word???? Black black black black black.
shame on me.
by exiledbuckeye » Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:25 pm
Stu wrote:exiledbuckeye wrote:I have to say that I find it pretty hilarious that the usual suspects who like to hype the "free market" think that a private organization should have to admit a member who they find to be too divisive and polarizing to further their business interests.
who are these people? i dont see anyone saying that the NFL should HAVE to admit Rush.
by exiledbuckeye » Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:29 pm
idoctribefan wrote:exiledbuckeye wrote:Are racist jokes okay because they're jokes?
The only one of those quotes that could be construed as racist is "the little black man-child". And that one isn't really racist, it's just that he stuck the word black in there where it probably didn't need to be. Barack Obama is black. Why can't you call black people "black"? What's hilarious is when people whisper the word "black" to describe someone. Like it's some kind of dirty word???? Black black black black black.
shame on me.
by exiledbuckeye » Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:32 pm
Stu wrote:idoctribefan wrote:exiledbuckeye wrote:Are racist jokes okay because they're jokes?
The only one of those quotes that could be construed as racist is "the little black man-child". And that one isn't really racist, it's just that he stuck the word black in there where it probably didn't need to be. Barack Obama is black. Why can't you call black people "black"? What's hilarious is when people whisper the word "black" to describe someone. Like it's some kind of dirty word???? Black black black black black.
shame on me.
actually, the point limbaugh was making was that because the guy was black, because the guy was a minority, he could not be held responsible for whatever it is he did.
he wasn't being racist, he was pointing out the double standard.
by idoctribefan » Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:49 pm
exiledbuckeye wrote:idoctribefan wrote:exiledbuckeye wrote:Are racist jokes okay because they're jokes?
The only one of those quotes that could be construed as racist is "the little black man-child". And that one isn't really racist, it's just that he stuck the word black in there where it probably didn't need to be. Barack Obama is black. Why can't you call black people "black"? What's hilarious is when people whisper the word "black" to describe someone. Like it's some kind of dirty word???? Black black black black black.
shame on me.
I was just busting on you because you replied to a bunch of the quotes I provided with something along the lines of "well, that was clearly in jest"/"that was clearly a joke" - basically implying that it doesn't matter what the substance of the quote is as long as he was joking.

by aoxo1 » Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:44 pm
idoctribefan wrote:Now maybe he DOES. I dunno. But you can tell by how he says it that it is a joke. So if Olbermann was to do a piece on his show saying "GLENN BECK HATES POOR BLACK PEOPLE!", using Beck's quote from above, that is misleading his audience with a quote that was said in jest.
I wish I were the president, just for the 747 and the cabinet I could assemble. I would have the best minds that I could find with a special eye out for those people who would vehemently disagree with each other. I'd let them argue it out and just listen. Well, I'm not the president so the jet doesn't take off when I tell it to and I can't hire great minds to argue.
So, I did the next best thing, I drove to the bookstore. Here is who I put on my "book cabinet": I got Alan Dershowitz. He's opinionated, obnoxious and at times-when he's not talking about the OJ Simpson case-he makes a good point. Let's see, let's put him in a room with... Adolf Hitler. I'd love to see those guys go at it. So next: Hitler's Mein Kampf. The something by Pope John Paul, along with Carl Sagan. I looked really hard, who else would I like to see in a room together? Hey, how about Nietzsche and Billy Graham? Yeah!
by jack_tors » Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:51 pm
exiledbuckeye wrote:
That is the whole point of this thread - the NFL doesn't want Limbaugh because he makes racially charged statements, is divisive and controversial. I am still not sure why this is a problem.

by Cerebral_DownTime » Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:01 pm
aoxo1 wrote:
edit: Honestly, really the biggest crime is that he had all of history to choose the great thinkers from, and he managed to come up with these six? Really? OK, I can see Nietzche... but really?
by skatingtripods » Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:27 pm
aoxo1 wrote:idoctribefan wrote:Now maybe he DOES. I dunno. But you can tell by how he says it that it is a joke. So if Olbermann was to do a piece on his show saying "GLENN BECK HATES POOR BLACK PEOPLE!", using Beck's quote from above, that is misleading his audience with a quote that was said in jest.
Meh, I'm not too sure about what Glenn Beck really thinks of black people and don't care much to find out.
I do know that he apparently thinks that Mein Kampf demonstrates that Adolph Hitler is one of the best minds he could possibly find, apparently in all of history.I wish I were the president, just for the 747 and the cabinet I could assemble. I would have the best minds that I could find with a special eye out for those people who would vehemently disagree with each other. I'd let them argue it out and just listen. Well, I'm not the president so the jet doesn't take off when I tell it to and I can't hire great minds to argue.
So, I did the next best thing, I drove to the bookstore. Here is who I put on my "book cabinet": I got Alan Dershowitz. He's opinionated, obnoxious and at times-when he's not talking about the OJ Simpson case-he makes a good point. Let's see, let's put him in a room with... Adolf Hitler. I'd love to see those guys go at it. So next: Hitler's Mein Kampf. The something by Pope John Paul, along with Carl Sagan. I looked really hard, who else would I like to see in a room together? Hey, how about Nietzsche and Billy Graham? Yeah!
From The Real America, pp. 210-211:
edit: Honestly, really the biggest crime is that he had all of history to choose the great thinkers from, and he managed to come up with these six? Really? OK, I can see Nietzche... but really?
by Commodore Perry » Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:59 pm
by Cerebral_DownTime » Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:45 pm
Commodore Perry wrote:In general, hate is not accepted anymore. Hate is not OK. Unless you're liberal. And then its OK to hate conservatives. Especially fat, white, rich conservatives. And MILFs from Alaska.
Limbaugh's most extreme quotes have been posted in this thread. You don't have to agree with them or find them funny, but they don't come close to equaling the level of hatred the man is facing.
Liberals experience anger and anxiety, just like every human being. But the only place they're allowed to displace it is on conservative figureheads. And they're told they're doing a good thing for hating, so its OK.
There aren't a lot of people you can wish cancer on and feel good about yourself for doing so.
But Limbaugh is one of them. That is why the left gets into a vengeful froth any time he is in the news. They get to feel hate - and self-righteousness - at the same time.
This had nothing to do with Limbaugh and the NFL, it had everything to do with liberals indulging in a little HATE.
by Commodore Perry » Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:18 pm
by Cerebral_DownTime » Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:00 pm
I'm saying one of the few ACCEPTABLE targets of hate are conservatives - especially fat ones.
If you hate limbaugh, you get a pat on the back.
This whole NFL/Limbaugh circus was just an opportunity for a group of people to HATE and feel good about themselves for doing so

by idoctribefan » Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:24 am
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
It's not like Republicans have compared Obama to Hitler, Stalin, and Mao. That has never happened.

by idoctribefan » Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:33 am

by Cerebral_DownTime » Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:37 am
idoctribefan wrote:Why would the Obama White House mind being compared to Mao? They love Mao.
Fast forward to 0:20 if you don't want to listen to Beck.
by dmiles » Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:37 am

by Erie Warrior » Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:08 am
dmiles wrote:
However thanks to the internet I know what skinny ass little bespectacled liberal steeplechase types are thinking (no offense erie warrior) about me deep down inside. So I'll be ready to jack up one of these 160 lb. punks when he attacks my over-consumption. I am too fat to run away so I have to stand and fight.


by aoxo1 » Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:04 pm
idoctribefan wrote:Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
It's not like Republicans have compared Obama to Hitler, Stalin, and Mao. That has never happened.
Why would the Obama White House mind being compared to Mao? They love Mao.
by Orenthal » Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:08 pm
exiledbuckeye wrote:Orenthal wrote: BTW where are all the quotes or sources to all this hate he spews?
http://mediamatters.org/research/200910130049
Including the background on the "Barack the Magic Negro" BS.
Some of my other favorites:"We are being told that we have to hope [Obama] succeeds, that we have to bend over, grab the ankles ... because his father was black."
Pointing out the naivete of many Obama voters. No different then what many on the left refer to voters on the right as hicks, bigots, and homophobes... To say that there is/was no pressure to vote for Obama due to his race is to lie to oneself. Was it a major factor, prolly not..."Obama's entire economic program is reparations."
Government handouts...Obama is "Halfrican-American."
Making fun of obvious hyphenated ethnic bullshit...Limbaugh suggests Obama would not have acted on Somali pirates if he'd known they were "actually young, black Muslim teenagers."
Obvious again that its not politically correct to hurth, the young, the black, and Muslim... An attack on the left's grouping of special classes...you can't criticize the little black man-child. You just can't do it, 'cause it's just not right, It's not fair. He's such a victim."
EZ! Cannot criticize a black public figure without talking heads and everyone else shouting racist. Attacks have to be "careful", wouldn't go thru the same process for 40 year old white guy...Limbaugh responded to a Reuters report about a University of Chicago study that found that "a majority of young blacks feel alienated from today's government" by asserting, "Why would that be? The government's been taking care of them their whole lives."
A call for the black community to wake up, and see what a dependent society creates, but then again maybe its the majority of people on government assistence of that type are white..."Look it, let me put it to you this way. The NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There I said it."Limbaugh called illegal immigrants an "invasive species."
by Orenthal » Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:12 pm
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Orenthal wrote:if anything, the only way the people of this country are ever going to get ahead is if the government stops being so controlling, intrusive and socialistic.Yeah, it's not like the Bush Admin had Americans illegally spied on or anything...
Oh wait. Yes he did.
It's not like the Bush Admin tried to paint everyone against his stupid war as unpatriotic.
Oh wait. They did that too.
It's not like the Bush Admin bailed out companies that were going under. (Which is Socialism, the Goverment saving companies from going out of business)
Oh wait.....
As a frequent listener to the show I can tell you he railed against all those policies to the point the White House called him to ask which side he was on, and to apply pressure to let up...
...but continue with the uninformed almost religious zeal of hate for the guy. BTW where are all the quotes or sources to all this hate he spews? Seems to me the guy is no more divisive then any of the crew on here slamming him.
Oh and the NFL can do what it wants, but I think their reasoning is flawed and evidence of hyperbole that makes rational discussion impossible.
That quote of mine was in response to Davemandd's notion that the only way people can get ahead in life is to get out from under the thumb of Obama's "Intrusive, controlling, and socialistic" nature. I was pointing out the fact the last guy in office did exactly what he accuses Obama of. It really wasn't directly related to Piggy.
I have really hard time believing Rush ever spoke out against illegal wire taps. I doubt he ever once spoke out in favor of the anitwar crowd. That I acutally find laughable. The bailouts? Yeah probably.
by Orenthal » Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:26 pm
exiledbuckeye wrote:Stu wrote:idoctribefan wrote:exiledbuckeye wrote:Are racist jokes okay because they're jokes?
The only one of those quotes that could be construed as racist is "the little black man-child". And that one isn't really racist, it's just that he stuck the word black in there where it probably didn't need to be. Barack Obama is black. Why can't you call black people "black"? What's hilarious is when people whisper the word "black" to describe someone. Like it's some kind of dirty word???? Black black black black black.
shame on me.
actually, the point limbaugh was making was that because the guy was black, because the guy was a minority, he could not be held responsible for whatever it is he did.
he wasn't being racist, he was pointing out the double standard.
Well, the point of the link I provided and the subsequent quotes is that they are "racially charged", not racist. Reading comprehension wins again.
That is the whole point of this thread - the NFL doesn't want Limbaugh because he makes racially charged statements, is divisive and controversial. I am still not sure why this is a problem.
by Orenthal » Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:40 pm
Erie Warrior wrote:dmiles wrote:
However thanks to the internet I know what skinny ass little bespectacled liberal steeplechase types are thinking (no offense erie warrior) about me deep down inside. So I'll be ready to jack up one of these 160 lb. punks when he attacks my over-consumption. I am too fat to run away so I have to stand and fight.
This is funny, but I haven't been 160 since 8th grade. It seems to me that when Democrats hate, it's on a particular person (Limbaugh, Bush). When Republicans hate, it's on a type of person (gays, muslims, immigrants). Big difference for me.
I would also offer that there are very few classic GOP conservatives left on the political stage. I think many of them have switched over to the religious zealots in Republican clothes we see today just to get elected. Yes, I'd nail Palin, but no way would I want her as next in line if McCain had a heart attack. Not because she is a republican, but because she is a moron.
Rush is an asshole because he's a bigot, not because he believes in lowering taxes and smaller government.
Edit: I'm now a Republican- http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2009/10/15/ ... ntroversy/
by Erie Warrior » Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:29 am
Orenthal wrote:I disagreed with every point here, and was thinking you truly a scumbag until I clicked that link. I now am a proud supporter of all Erie has to say, and will defend that right to the death!


by exiledbuckeye » Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:57 am
jack_tors wrote:exiledbuckeye wrote:
That is the whole point of this thread - the NFL doesn't want Limbaugh because he makes racially charged statements, is divisive and controversial. I am still not sure why this is a problem.
Hmmm, I am going out on a limb here but could it be divisive and controversial are BAD for business?
by exiledbuckeye » Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:05 am
Orenthal wrote:The quotes came in response to me asking for quotes that proved his hate. So racially charged = hate? I cannot keep up with indirectness of your point. This thread took an obvious turn to whether or not Limbaugh is racist, and away from the NFL being fair or not. Which IMO, as a free market guy, can do whatever the hell they want as long as it is within the US constitution? Wouldn't want them to be able to really do anything they wanted, cuz what if Limbaugh was black...
Reading comprehension? So being/saying/thinking “racially charged” is something we all should be afraid of… Better tell every black comedian and rapper right now…
by Orenthal » Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:38 pm
exiledbuckeye wrote:I'm not saying everyone has to be politically correct, but obviously you can't spout off whatever you want to say and offend a large group of the population and then expect the NFL/your employer/etc. have no problem with what you've said. I probably couldn't go around saying that all Texans are stupid hicks in a public forum and expect my employer to just laugh it off. That's my point. I know that the rest of the thread has gone elsewhere.
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