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Heading to Vegas

Unread postby View from 171 » Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:12 am

I'm heading to Vegas in a few weeks with a few buddies and am looking for a new strategy for blackjack and craps.

I head out there once a year and primarily play blackjack and craps (with some sports gambling mixed in for good measure).

Anyone got a good system they are willing to share. I've been using my system for years and am just looking for something new to try.
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Re: Heading to Vegas

Unread postby Bigfist » Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:18 am

Craps is and always will be a negative expectation game. The reason behind that is that each roll is independant...and previous rolls of the dice mean nothing. Stanford Wong, of blackjack fame, wrote a book a couple of years ago in which he claimed that he could manipuate dice (legally) to avoid a "7" coming up, but I have no idea if others could replicate his alleged success.

Blackjack, of course, can be beaten mathematically, but you have to be proficient at counting. Negative and positive progression systems will never work.
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Re: Heading to Vegas

Unread postby peeker643 » Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:42 am

Just Martingale everything.

It's fool proof. Eventually you'll hit a hand or a roll.

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Re: Heading to Vegas

Unread postby FUDU » Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:47 am

View from 171 wrote:I'm heading to Vegas in a few weeks with a few buddies and am looking for a new strategy for blackjack and craps.

I head out there once a year and primarily play blackjack and craps (with some sports gambling mixed in for good measure).

Anyone got a good system they are willing to share. I've been using my system for years and am just looking for something new to try.

If your system doesn't include counting cards then you best just maximize your betting opportunities, b/c really there is no other way to win at the game.
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Re: Heading to Vegas

Unread postby Cease » Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:36 am

My personal craps strategy, for what it's worth.

I play the pass line and take odds to the max once the point is set. House edge in this situation is about as low as it gets inside the casino. I'll then buy the six and eight before the first roll after point is set to get money in play and make some easy cashes. To get more money in play on a heating table, I'll buy the 5&9, 4&10 .

NO PROP BETS- they are bullshit. No hardways, don't play the field, no yo bets, horn bets, hoppin the 10, none of that bullshit.

Oh, and be sure to give the shooter his props as he/she rolls. Also give a nice stink-eye to anyone playing against the table. Not that it makes a difference, but it's fun- and that's why you are there.
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Re: Heading to Vegas

Unread postby skatingtripods » Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:27 pm

If this man is dealing...

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don't sit at that table.

That said, good luck, sir!
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Re: Heading to Vegas

Unread postby leadpipe » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:14 pm

Play them both off strip at locals casinos.

You'll bet great pass line odds and you'll be able to stay away from the 6-5 natural bullshit.

I find it humorous how many "experts" play those games on the strip. The "expertise" they are using to get them a few percentage points closer to 100% is easily evaporated by the rules on the strip.

And there aren't any systems. In craps or blackjack you can make the right mathematical choice EVERY time. Staying disciplined and sober enough to do so is the key.

By the way, to reiterate, especially in this economy, when they are more player friendly than a few years back - don't play a shitty game.
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Re: Heading to Vegas

Unread postby View from 171 » Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:45 pm

Thanks for the advice fellas. I'm always just trying to get little bits of advice before I head out there.

Lead - i'll be looking at your "locks" for the weekend of Nov 6. Pick some good ones.

The hardest part for me is the staying sober. Hard to count to 21 when you haven't slept in 2 days (and drink you body weight in booze).
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Re: Heading to Vegas

Unread postby skatingtripods » Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:01 pm

Well, when you start getting really drunk, just go sit at a nickel slot, play 5 lines, and continue to consume the free drinks. If you're competent enough, find one that'll play a scatter bonus or a bonus on lines 1, 3, or 5 instead of just on an active payline. That way, you can accumulate enough credits to keep sitting there drinking while losing very minimal money.
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Re: Heading to Vegas

Unread postby waborat » Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:20 pm

View from 171 wrote:The hardest part for me is the staying sober. Hard to count to 21 when you haven't slept in 2 days (and drink you body weight in booze).


That's when you head over to the Pai Gow table...

Slur to the dealer that you want them to set all your hands...

All ya gotta do is be able to pass cheques back 'n forth ;-) ;) :wink:
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