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Best & Worst Coaches In College Football

Unread postby swerb » Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:50 pm

Here's what I got ... in order. Discuss.

BEST COACHES IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL

1. Jim Tressel, Ohio St
2. Urban Meyer, Florida
3. Rich Rodriguez, West Va
4. Jeff Tedford, Cal
5. Tom O'Brien, BC
6. Pete Carroll, USC
7. Kirk Ferentz, Iowa
8. Greg Schiano, Rutgers
9. Paul Johnson, Navy
10. Mark Richt, Georgia
11. Bob Stoops, Oklahoma
12. Mark Mangino, Kansas

WORST COACHES IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL

1. John L. Smith, Mich St
2. Larry Coker, Miami Fla
3. Chuck Amato, NC St
4. Walt Harris, Stanford
5. Bill Callahan, Nebraska
6. Ron Zook, Illinois
7. Al Groh, Virginia
8. Dirk Koetter, Arizona St
9. Dennis Franchione, Texas A&M
10. Les Miles, LSU
11. Phil Fullmer, Tennessee
12. Tyrone Willingham, Washington
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Unread postby Guest » Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:19 pm

Stoops and Carroll have to be 2 and 3 on my list
None of those other guys have won anything or will anythime soon.

Callahan on the worst list is wrong as well. He's turning around Nebraska while those guys are headed down the shitter.
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Unread postby yargs7 » Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:21 pm

I'd have to put Pete Carroll right behind Tressel. USC wasn't even the best team in LA when he took over. I'm still not sold on Urban Meyer's offensive system. I will give him a couple of years with his own guys before I say it won't work in the SEC.

I'd also have Louisville's Bobby Petrino in the top 10. I know they beat up on cupcakes and haven't quite gotten over that hump, but it IS Louisville.

Tommy Tuberville is good too. I'd rather have him than Richt.

What about Pat Hill from Fresno? They are down this year, but are always tough, well coached club.

Mike Bellotti at Oregon has been great. I mean, do they even have high school football in Oregon? Yet they are always good, and sometimes they are really good.

1. Tress
2. Carroll
3. Rodriguez
4. Tedford
5. Schiano
6. Bellotti
7. Stoops
8. Ferentz
9. Petrino
10. Tuberville
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Unread postby furls » Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:22 pm

I will list my top five as:

1.) Jim Tressel
2.) Pete Carroll
3.) Tommy Tuberville
4.) Tom O'Brien
5.) Paul Johnson (he has a very serious recruiting disadvantage)

my bottom 5:

1.) Larry Coker
2.) John L. Smith
3.) Chuck Amato
4.) Franchione
5.) Walt Harris

Most Overrated:

1.) Charlie Weiss (Guru my ASS)
2.) Kirk Ferentz (what has he done in Iowa?)
3.) Rich Rodriguez (ok, he beats up fifth graders, I get it)
4.) Ron Zook
5.) Les Miles
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Unread postby swerb » Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:47 am

My top three ... all canned.

Be nervous Walt Harris.
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Unread postby yargs7 » Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:54 am

Swerb wrote:My top three ... all canned.

Be nervous Walt Harris.


Shula and Koetter axed as well.
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Unread postby swerb » Mon Nov 27, 2006 12:14 pm

Shula and Koetter axed as well.


How did Mike Shula not make my list? That was an oversight ...
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Unread postby furls » Tue Dec 05, 2006 1:41 am

Walt Harris out, and Swerb is officially clairvoyant.
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Unread postby gdbenz » Tue Dec 05, 2006 9:15 am

How could anyone leave Louisville's Bobby Petrino off of the list? He's done nothing short of a miraculous job with the Cardinals program. When he took over from John L. Smith, Louisville was on the upswing. But Petrino has taken them to a new level, a perennial top 10 team.

I think the four best coaches at this point (in no particular order) are Tressel, Carroll, Stoops and Meyer.

I don't think Greg Schiano makes the list, yet. Let's see if he can continue the momentum at Rutgers.

Right now I'd have to agree with Kirk Ferentz being on the overrated list but not with the selection of Charlie Weiss to that list. Ferentz, like so many others before him, is finding it very difficult to compete with talent when recruiting against Ohio State and Michigan. Mark Dantonio will find out likewise, as well as find out that in the end Michigan State is about basketball and hockey (their AD is former hockey coach Ron Mason). As for Weiss, you must remember that the cupboard was pretty bare when he got there. He's done a nice job despite some major talent gaps and it's not his fault that the media so wants Notre Dame to be a top program. Give Charlie two to four more years and then lets see where he falls on the list.
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Unread postby swerb » Tue Dec 05, 2006 9:25 am

First of all, how could anyone leave Bobby Petrino of Louisville off a list of the best coaches. All he's done for the last few years is build Louisville into a national power. Greg Sciano may be good, who knows, but he doesn't deserve to be on the list yet and certainly not ahead of Petrino.

I will admit, if I had to redo this list today ... Petrino may snaek onto the bottom of it. However, Schiano outcoached and defeated Petrino this season ... and with alot less natural talent. Petrino has been successful at Louisville. But so was John L. Smith. And alot of those kids are still John L recruits, including many of their best players.

And I'll have to admit, my opinion of Schiano is likely inflated a bit by two interviews I've heard him do on Rome's radio show. The guy was very impressive to me, and just gets it in my view.
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Unread postby furls » Tue Dec 05, 2006 9:40 am

But Petrino has taken them to a new level, a perennial top 10 team.


I don't grade the Big East on a curve (apparently like everyone else).

Weiss is grossly overrated (and grossly overweighted). People make it sound like he showed up at ND and had to scour the campus to find a football team, there is talent on that team and he has done reasonably well with it on the offensive side, but I am still unimpressed by his ability to generate any kind of game plan against a good team. Hell, anytime ND plays a good team the game is not even competitive.
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Unread postby yargs7 » Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:50 am

GDBenz wrote:How could anyone leave Louisville's Bobby Petrino off of the list?


Look above...Yargdogg had him 9th. I'm the Rodney Dangerfield of Swerbs Blurbs.
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Unread postby swerb » Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:03 pm

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