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by FUDU » Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:59 pm
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by furls » Sat Oct 13, 2007 8:10 pm
by Mr. MacPhisto » Sat Oct 13, 2007 10:04 pm
Furls wrote:Wow, that was one of the best college games that I have ever seen.Win or lose you have to be proud of your team if they played in that game.
by FUDU » Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:16 am
Those two conferences are definitely a cut above all the others right now.
by furls » Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:33 am
by FUDU » Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:43 am
by furls » Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:01 am
by Mr. MacPhisto » Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:05 am
FUDU wrote:Interesting comment considering the number one team in the country is now from the Big Ten.SEC is overrated this year and they are proving it, meaning they are only slightly better than any other conference mentioned.
by FUDU » Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:13 am
by Mr. MacPhisto » Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:40 am
FUDU wrote:mac I am not saying the Big Ten is the best or will be. But the conference cannot be that bad if they have the number one ranked team. Plus what about if OSU runs the table in the Big Ten? Or doesn't? Which scenario propels the rating of the Big Ten?
See it is all so subjective and just plain BS at times, not from you but from how the system is viewed and manipulated.
If OSU were to play a LSU or USF or OK or Cal and beat em in the NC game then what? Does the Big Ten's best beating another conference's best validate everything?
I just want an 8 team playoff and I would be happy.
by furls » Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:45 am
But the conference cannot be that bad if they have the number one ranked team.
by furls » Sun Oct 14, 2007 1:49 am
A playoff would help that because losses outside of the conference would not prevent you from playing for a title, but tough games and wins would help you get a better seed.
by Mr. MacPhisto » Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:03 am
Furls wrote:I like that idea. The important thing is that SOS needs to be heavily weighted, so much so that it is better to lose a close game to a good team than to pound Kent State or Elon. Unfortunatley, the way I see this season playing out is that the experts will use this season as proof of parity, not proof of mediocrity. Programs will use this "parity" argument as a means to justify putting mid majors on schedules.
by furls » Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:07 pm
The final parity argument would be bad
Of course the problem is the human factor because subjectivity is always in play.
by Mr. MacPhisto » Sun Oct 14, 2007 12:32 pm
Furls wrote:Exactly, but I would not expect that to stop anyone from using it, much the same way that they justify ranking teams highly (or lowly) based on a previous season.Due to the insane turnover in NCAA Football, you cannot even really guess how good a team will be going into the season and most of the time they don't bother to see who is replacing starters; they just assume that since a guy is young that he will not contribute or will require a season or 2 to be a serious contributor.
And don't even get me started on recruiting rankigns. These are the guys who continuously rank USC's classes #1 or #2 in spite of what they recruit. It is not enough to recruit talented athletes with great measurables. THose measurables often hurt guys that are not coachable and rely to much on their physical abilities. This works in high school where they have a huge physical advantage; not so much in the NCAA (see O'Neal, Jemario). They also don't account for how deep a school already is at a position or whether that player actually fits the system that the school runs. Vertical receivers are not as valuable to OSU as they are to other schools, and I am not impressed by USC's 17 5* Running backs, they only get to use 2 at a time unless they bring back the wishbone.
That is why they need to put a fair portion of the emphasis on the computers, and the computer rankings need to be unconcerned with Preseason rankings which cause huge biases early in the season and grossly fucked up.
by Bayou Tribe » Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:07 pm
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