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by FUDU » Fri Oct 05, 2007 5:55 pm
by furls » Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:10 pm
by Mr. MacPhisto » Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:07 pm
FUDU wrote:Elite team(s)?My point here isn't to trash USF, they are a good team and a great story and as I have mentioned this season I don't know all that much about them other than what I have watched. Nor is this about the SEC really.It is more about what is considered an elite team.So now just getting to 5-0 makes a program an elite team? How ridiculous. 80% of all schedules played have not had near a tough game on them and even the ones that have how can we say it was a tough game yet when the season is so young and we really don't know how a team is going to be.According to this yahoo's logic Purdue is an elite team then, right?
I just don't get the over anxious labeling of teams as elite. Elite teams are the team a top or near the top of the polls that are undefeated for the most part. Now USF meets those requirements but classifying a prior unknown as elite when they have not beaten an elite is way premature IMO.
I mean Kentucky elite, Georgia elite?So doesn't this logic make every one loss or undefeated team elite.I just don't get it or like it.Right now there are 4-6 elite teams period.LSUUSCCalFla (they deserve benefit of the doubt) and maybe just maybe OSU & Wisky. But those two have yet to beat anybody of real note.
This brings me to a look at the state of college football.I think it is reasonable to say college football is at all time high for popularity or interest, if not it is damn close to an all time high.When looking at the teams and the game IMO it seems as if there are fewer and fewer seasons in which there are truly great great teams, and I mean that literally as in plural. Yeah there is a great team usually every year or every other but how often are there 6, 5 or even 3 or 2?What is the cause of this?Parity?As in recruiting, as in coaching? It seems that there are an awful lot of good coaches in the college ranks today. To take it further it seems that new first time young coaches are more often than not way ahead of the curve.
In years past college football had a deeper top ten IMO, and in that top ten were more really good to great teams. I just don't see it as such the past 5-7 years.
No knock on some of the current crop like the Kentucky's, USF's, WV's, Cincinnati's but if what they have done is all it takes to get into the top ten than either college football has reached a certain level of parity or we have lowered our qualification's and expectations of good football teams.
by furls » Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:32 pm
If they can convince some good Ohio recruits that they have an easier job of getting to the BCS then they can draw some away from OSU, Michigan, and other Big Ten teams.
As for Kentucky, much of their success is coming because their defense is solid and Woodson is a great QB. He seems to be the Heisman frontrunner right now.
by Mr. MacPhisto » Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:20 am
Furls wrote:KY is a "one hit wonder" based on current personnel, there really is no program momentum and they will regress to the mean. Now that said, Woodson is a good QB, but for him to win the Heisman, KY will have to win, and I am not sure that they will continue to do that in the SEC.
by furls » Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:06 am
We'll have to see how Kragthorpe handles that going forward.
by Mr. MacPhisto » Sat Oct 06, 2007 10:05 am
Furls wrote:My guess is that he will handle it from the unemployment line within a year or so. They have pretty high expectations for their terms right now in Louisville and expectations are the mightiest of coach slayers.
by furls » Sat Oct 06, 2007 10:15 am
by Mr. MacPhisto » Sat Oct 06, 2007 10:55 am
Furls wrote:The days of the program identity (Ohio State's 3 yards and cloud of dust for instance) died with the 1994 scholarship limitations. No longer can teams stockpile players to ensure that coaches can run their in grained systems. Now Coaches have to be able to look at their team and pick a system that matches their personnel. I think that is a big reason that the game seems to have passed the Bowdens and Paterno's by.
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