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Unread postby pup » Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:42 pm

Just looked over his top 5 seniors and juniors at each position. Call me crazy, but either he missing something or the Buckeyes are in trouble.

Guess how many Top 5 guys they have in the 2 classes, combined, for all posiions.
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Unread postby furls » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:29 pm

Kiper is an idiot. I havent seen the list, but here are a couple of guys:

DE: Vern Gholston
LT: Alex Boone
LB: Laurinaitis
CB: Malcolm Jenkins

He is an expert only is as much as ESPN says he is. He looks right on draft day because he continously changes his big board based on the information or misinformation of the NFL GMs/scouting department. It generally has very little to do with how good the players actually are, but is more along the lines of who will go where.

Buckeyes defense will be VERY good this year without a lot of hype, reminiscent of 2002.
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Unread postby swerb » Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:12 pm

Furls wrote:Kiper is an idiot. I havent seen the list, but here are a couple of guys:

DE: Vern Gholston
LT: Alex Boone
LB: Laurinaitis
CB: Malcolm Jenkins

He is an expert only is as much as ESPN says he is. He looks right on draft day because he continously changes his big board based on the information or misinformation of the NFL GMs/scouting department. It generally has very little to do with how good the players actually are, but is more along the lines of who will go where.

Buckeyes defense will be VERY good this year without a lot of hype, reminiscent of 2002.

Shit, Rehring, Chris Wells, and Robert Rose also could be breakthrough guys that play at a very high level this year as well.

I can't wait for the season to start. That Florida loss still stings.
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Unread postby Mcreek » Sat Jun 09, 2007 3:58 pm

Rehring, Boone and Barton have something to prove as they all got exposed big time by the Florida speed rushers.
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Unread postby furls » Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:46 pm

If I had to assign blame to any particular players for the "Disaster in the Desert" it would land squarely on the shoulders of the three aforementioned linemen. They really sucked in that game, and they are the reason that the offense never clicked.
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Unread postby Mr. MacPhisto » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:17 pm

Furls wrote:If I had to assign blame to any particular players for the "Disaster in the Desert" it would land squarely on the shoulders of the three aforementioned linemen. They really sucked in that game, and they are the reason that the offense never clicked.


I wouldn't be too hard on the players. They played a role, but Meyer's coaching is what really got them. I'd say Tressel bears the most guilt on the Ohio State side for that loss and Meyer deserves a lot of credit for how he used his players. The talent level between the teams was fairly even with Florida being faster. The playcalling, however, was much better on the Florida end. It would have been a better game if Smith had gotten better protection because he wouldn't have been so flustered, but that was far from the only problem.
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Unread postby furls » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:43 pm

If I had to assign blame to any particular players



If you read my wrap, I was brutal on the coaching for failing to adapt. It wasn't so much that Meyer outcoached Tressel and his staff, it was that tressel and his staff failed to coach/adapt at all.
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Re: Kiper

Unread postby intenso » Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:52 pm

Pup wrote:Just looked over his top 5 seniors and juniors at each position. Call me crazy, but either he missing something or the Buckeyes are in trouble.

Guess how many Top 5 guys they have in the 2 classes, combined, for all posiions.




can you tell me the rb list?
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Unread postby pup » Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:53 pm

Seniors:

Allen Patrick, Oklahoma
Tashard Choice, Georgi Tech
Mike Hart, scUM
Dantrell Savage, Oklahoma State
Ryan Torian, Arizona Stste


Juniors:

Darren McFadden Arkansas
Steve Slaton, West Virginia
Jonathon Stewart, Oregon
Felix Stewart, Arkansas
Branden Ore, Virginia Tech
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Unread postby OSU Bucks Crazy » Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:40 am

We will be fine this year. Kiper is a re re. If he had any knowledge of the game he'd be working for an NFL team. Not ESPN. Cant wait till Wisconson.


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