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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:11 pm

lol. You guys must be 5,000 years old.
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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:13 pm

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Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
Erie Warrior wrote:What ever happened to Oregon and their scandal earlier in the year? I thought it was going to be a big deal.


They handled it, dude. OSU got the bowl ban.


Dude, its not really a big deal if the HC is caught redhanded paying a player's street agent 25K and then concocting a shitty coverup using last year's recruits to justify the payment once the NCAA and Yahoo started sniffing around. Did anyone get a tattoo? No. Case closed!

How the fuck does Chip Kelley have a job and how the fuck did they not mention that scandal 50X during the broadcast?

I ask this in all seriousness, what is worse, paying a player's street agent 25k and then orchestrating a lousy coverup or lying about players selling their own shit or getting free tattoos? I guarantee that Oregon does not get a bowl ban.


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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby FUDU » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:14 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:lol. You guys must be 5,000 years old.


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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:16 pm

FUDU wrote:
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:lol. You guys must be 5,000 years old.


Well I was born on the same day as Jesus.


You not so good at maths huh?
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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby Erie Warrior » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:16 pm

Luck would be wise to rid himself of the caveman beard. Looks awful. Like the guy in The 'Burbs, but with brown hair.
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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby FUDU » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:17 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
FUDU wrote:
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:lol. You guys must be 5,000 years old.


Well I was born on the same day as Jesus.


You not so good at maths huh?


A simple happy belated birthday would have worked, dick face.
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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:19 pm

Erie Warrior wrote:Luck would be wise to rid himself of the caveman beard. Looks awful. Like the guy in The 'Burbs, but with brown hair.



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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:20 pm

Fire Marshall Bill wrote:
furls wrote:
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Erie Warrior wrote:What ever happened to Oregon and their scandal earlier in the year? I thought it was going to be a big deal.


They handled it, dude. OSU got the bowl ban.


Dude, its not really a big deal if the HC is caught redhanded paying a player's street agent 25K and then concocting a shitty coverup using last year's recruits to justify the payment once the NCAA and Yahoo started sniffing around. Did anyone get a tattoo? No. Case closed!

How the fuck does Chip Kelley have a job and how the fuck did they not mention that scandal 50X during the broadcast?

I ask this in all seriousness, what is worse, paying a player's street agent 25k and then orchestrating a lousy coverup or lying about players selling their own shit or getting free tattoos? I guarantee that Oregon does not get a bowl ban.


Give it up....you're pissing into the wind nobody fucking cares anymore

Freakin crybaby



Shut up, you old faggot.

Go root for your Pedo U.

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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby Triple-S » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:27 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
Erie Warrior wrote:Luck would be wise to rid himself of the caveman beard. Looks awful. Like the guy in The 'Burbs, but with brown hair.



Beards are awesome. I have an epic beard. My words are wise, my face is beard.


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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:32 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
Fire Marshall Bill wrote:
furls wrote:
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
Erie Warrior wrote:What ever happened to Oregon and their scandal earlier in the year? I thought it was going to be a big deal.


They handled it, dude. OSU got the bowl ban.


Dude, its not really a big deal if the HC is caught redhanded paying a player's street agent 25K and then concocting a shitty coverup using last year's recruits to justify the payment once the NCAA and Yahoo started sniffing around. Did anyone get a tattoo? No. Case closed!

How the fuck does Chip Kelley have a job and how the fuck did they not mention that scandal 50X during the broadcast?

I ask this in all seriousness, what is worse, paying a player's street agent 25k and then orchestrating a lousy coverup or lying about players selling their own shit or getting free tattoos? I guarantee that Oregon does not get a bowl ban.


Give it up....you're pissing into the wind nobody fucking cares anymore

Freakin crybaby



Shut up, you old faggot.

Go root for your Pedo U.

Loser fag.


Fuck off, Stretch

I don't give a rats ass about PSU anymore than I do OSU

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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:33 pm

Ok, so you're also a BUTT FUCKING QUITTER.
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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:37 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Ok, so you're also a BUTT FUCKING QUITTER.


LOL

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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby Triple-S » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:38 pm

Man, Stanford is going to give the winner of 'bama/lsu fits. Can't wait for that game in Dallas in two weeks!
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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:41 pm

Funny how one doesn't hear any Big 10 Wonks criticizing Luck for playing in the "No D" Pac 10...
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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby Erie Warrior » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:42 pm

Unreal. I've successfully misplayed every game today. I'm a worse gambler than Remo.

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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby FUDU » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:45 pm

Fire Marshall Bill wrote:Funny how one doesn't hear any Big 10 Wonks criticizing Luck for playing in the "No D" Pac 10...


I think anymore it is just assumed.

He is a good hander offer.
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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:45 pm

I had some extra spicy General Tso's. it was good.
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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:52 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I had some extra spicy General Tso's. it was good.


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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:54 pm

FUDU wrote:
Fire Marshall Bill wrote:Funny how one doesn't hear any Big 10 Wonks criticizing Luck for playing in the "No D" Pac 10...


I think anymore it is just assumed.

He is a good hander offer.


I'm not overly impressed myself

I know its a small samlple but, so far you'd have a hard time convincing me to take him over RG
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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:54 pm

Fire Marshall Bill wrote:
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I had some extra spicy General Tso's. it was good.


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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:56 pm

This Blackmon cat can ball.
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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby LakeErieWarriors » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:56 pm

#81 would be awfully nice in a Browns jersey, damn.
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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby peeker643 » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:59 pm

LakeErieWarriors wrote:#81 would be awfully nice in a Browns jersey, damn.


Yes. But they'd have to run 15 end arounds each game to get him the ball. Unless he replaces TE Alex Smith as the 3rd and 1 feature back.
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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby Erie Warrior » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:59 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:This Blackmon cat can ball.


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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby FUDU » Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:00 pm

Fire Marshall Bill wrote:
FUDU wrote:
Fire Marshall Bill wrote:Funny how one doesn't hear any Big 10 Wonks criticizing Luck for playing in the "No D" Pac 10...


I think anymore it is just assumed.

He is a good hander offer.


I'm not overly impressed myself

I know its a small samlple but, so far you'd have a hard time convincing me to take him over RG


There's been two specials on him this year and I saw them both. He has the two most important parts of the game (at his level) down, the mental part and the arm. His level of responsibility is pretty damn impressive and virtually unprecedented at this level from what the two programs covered.

If he had upgraded D1 weapons his numbers would be sickening.
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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby LakeErieWarriors » Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:04 pm

peeker643 wrote:
LakeErieWarriors wrote:#81 would be awfully nice in a Browns jersey, damn.


Yes. But they'd have to run 15 end arounds each game to get him the ball. Unless he replaces TE Alex Smith as the 3rd and 1 feature back.


With the success we had this year?! Who could resist!
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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby peeker643 » Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:06 pm

Fire Marshall Bill wrote:
FUDU wrote:
Fire Marshall Bill wrote:Funny how one doesn't hear any Big 10 Wonks criticizing Luck for playing in the "No D" Pac 10...


I think anymore it is just assumed.

He is a good hander offer.


I'm not overly impressed myself

I know its a small samlple but, so far you'd have a hard time convincing me to take him over RG


I don't man. The more I see the more I'd give up.

He has every single club in his bag.
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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill » Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:06 pm

FUDU wrote:
Fire Marshall Bill wrote:
FUDU wrote:
Fire Marshall Bill wrote:Funny how one doesn't hear any Big 10 Wonks criticizing Luck for playing in the "No D" Pac 10...


I think anymore it is just assumed.

He is a good hander offer.


I'm not overly impressed myself

I know its a small samlple but, so far you'd have a hard time convincing me to take him over RG


There's been two specials on him this year and I saw them both. He has the two most important parts of the game (at his level) down, the mental part and the arm. His level of responsibility is pretty damn impressive and virtually unprecedented at this level from what the two programs covered.

If he had upgraded D1 weapons his numbers would be sickening.


You're not suggesting McCoy and the Browns would have been better with more weapons on offense, are ya?? :lmfao:
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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill » Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:08 pm

peeker643 wrote:
Fire Marshall Bill wrote:
FUDU wrote:
Fire Marshall Bill wrote:Funny how one doesn't hear any Big 10 Wonks criticizing Luck for playing in the "No D" Pac 10...


I think anymore it is just assumed.

He is a good hander offer.


I'm not overly impressed myself

I know its a small samlple but, so far you'd have a hard time convincing me to take him over RG


I don't man. The more I see the more I'd give up.

He has every single club in his bag.


Yeah, I was gonna make a retract after I saw the head-fake/pump pass but why bother
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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby FUDU » Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:08 pm

I'm leaning that way as well. I just fear our lack of activity in FA market would set him back as our guy.
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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby LakeErieWarriors » Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:09 pm

Jesus H. Science!! if I detest college football purely because of the lack of defense, does that make me a total douche?
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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill » Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:09 pm

A lack of activity in FA and it won't matter

Only lemmings and suckers would follow them if that happens
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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill » Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:13 pm

If Weeden's arm was a gun it would be a .22 short
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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:13 pm

LakeErieWarriors wrote:Jesus H. Science!! if I detest college football purely because of the lack of defense, does that make me a total douche?



it's still 1,000,000,000 times better than the shit NFL........ and Matt Flynn throwing for 6 TDs. AWESOME D!
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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby FUDU » Mon Jan 02, 2012 11:14 pm

My gosh Blackmon IS the most NFL ready looking WR since.....Brian Robiske.
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Re: Bowl Pools

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Cerebral_DownTime wrote:
LakeErieWarriors wrote:Jesus H. Science!! if I detest college football purely because of the lack of defense, does that make me a total douche?



it's still 1,000,000,000 times better than the shit NFL........ and Matt Flynn throwing for 6 TDs. AWESOME D!


That game was just evidence that Detroit's D blows, and that the Packers will not repeat this year bc theirs does too (alot more than last year).
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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby Triple-S » Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:46 am

For all of those asking for Blackmon may I pose this?

who's going to throw to him?
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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby furls » Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:33 pm

FMB still posts here, I didn't think he would crawl out from under his rock until Sandusky's sentence was served. Troll. Let me guess, he doesn't really like PSU now anyways. Almost worth taking the punk off ignore to watch him back track.
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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill » Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:48 pm

furls wrote:FMB still posts here, I didn't think he would crawl out from under his rock until Sandusky's sentence was served. Troll. Let me guess, he doesn't really like PSU now anyways. Almost worth taking the punk off ignore to watch him back track.


:lmfao:

You believe what you like...I couldn't give less of a a rats ass about some 20 yr old college boi like yourself

You may not have noticed yet in your efficiency apartment with the OSU curtains, but the world is bigger than a college football program

You rooting for Michigan tonite?

You know...to prove what a powerful conference the Big 10 is???
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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby furls » Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:19 pm

Fire Marshall Bill wrote:
furls wrote:FMB still posts here, I didn't think he would crawl out from under his rock until Sandusky's sentence was served. Troll. Let me guess, he doesn't really like PSU now anyways. Almost worth taking the punk off ignore to watch him back track.


:lmfao:

You believe what you like...I couldn't give less of a a rats ass about some 20 yr old college boi like yourself

You may not have noticed yet in your efficiency apartment with the OSU curtains, but the world is bigger than a college football program

You rooting for Michigan tonite?

You know...to prove what a powerful conference the Big 10 is???


Turned twenty almost 16 years ago, I have seen more of the world then probably any 3 people you know combined, not just the nice places (Hawaii, Bahamas etc.) but the fucking hellholes that normal people almost never get to witness (Horn of Africa, Middle East, Southeast Asia, Gitmo).

All in all, I estimate that I have spent 8 years of my life outside the confines of the US, often sleeping in ditches or the coffin sized-racks of a submarine, protecting your right to look like an asshole on a message board. Don't tell me about the size of the fucking world troll.

College football is a nice distraction in my life and OSU sports are the only sports I really follow.

As far as rooting for Michigan, no, that is never the right answer, and I could give two fucking shits about how "powerful of a conference" the B1G is, PSU's horrifically embarrassing loss to C-USA power Houston did enough damage. Maybe they can try really hard and get the scUM treatment from App. State next year.
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Unread postby furls » Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:25 pm

FWIW, if you want to take some personal shots you could at least read up on me in the "meet the writers" section. My info is right there. Profile is old, I really haven't updated it much since the original draft that I gave to Rich when he started this website 6 years ago.
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Unread postby noles1 » Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:32 pm

Damn....

If furls didn't just deliver a knockout blow followed up with a kick to the lifeless corpse that is FMB then I don't think I've ever seen a more complete rebuttal to an attack.

Well done.

That said, I forget what the hell we were talking about... oh yeah, Justin Blackmon.

If last year's board was accurate, we had AJ Green as the #1 prospect in the draft. So that shows you that the regime isn't afraid of the "high WR spot in the draft" theory. So you have to think that is an option. But as I said, if we don't come away with one of the 2 QBs in this draft then I have a major problem with what we did.
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Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:40 pm

If we draft Denard Robinson you could put him and Cribbs in the backfield and opposing D's heads will explode.
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Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill » Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:41 pm

furls wrote:FWIW, if you want to take some personal shots you could at least read up on me in the "meet the writers" section. My info is right there. Profile is old, I really haven't updated it much since the original draft that I gave to Rich when he started this website 6 years ago.


:lmfao:

You call me a punk then expect me to research your bio? Thats just priceless

I don't give a rats ass about your dumbass profile

Your takes are stupid and biased

esp the one recently when you rated conferences prior to the start of the bowl games

Now go away and I'll leave you be

BTW.....your "ignore" button isn't working
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Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:43 pm

Your takes are stupid and biased


Maybe irony intended?
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Unread postby pup » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:34 am

noles1 wrote:Damn....

If furls didn't just deliver a knockout blow followed up with a kick to the lifeless corpse that is FMB then I don't think I've ever seen a more complete rebuttal to an attack.

Well done.

That said, I forget what the hell we were talking about... oh yeah, Justin Blackmon.

If last year's board was accurate, we had AJ Green as the #1 prospect in the draft. So that shows you that the regime isn't afraid of the "high WR spot in the draft" theory. So you have to think that is an option. But as I said, if we don't come away with one of the 2 QBs in this draft then I have a major problem with what we did.


I would think they rate Blackmon as more like Julio Jones than AJ Green.
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Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill » Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:41 am

noles1 wrote:Damn....

If furls didn't just deliver a knockout blow followed up with a kick to the lifeless corpse that is FMB then I don't think I've ever seen a more complete rebuttal to an attack.

Well done.

That said, I forget what the hell we were talking about... oh yeah, Justin Blackmon.

If last year's board was accurate, we had AJ Green as the #1 prospect in the draft. So that shows you that the regime isn't afraid of the "high WR spot in the draft" theory. So you have to think that is an option. But as I said, if we don't come away with one of the 2 QBs in this draft then I have a major problem with what we did.


Guy is over 35 and his entire life is centered around beating Michigan and a couple tattoos...

So yeah, I'm really hurt by your slobbing his knob because he is OSU Fan

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Unread postby furls » Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:58 pm

Fire Marshall Bill wrote:
furls wrote:FWIW, if you want to take some personal shots you could at least read up on me in the "meet the writers" section. My info is right there. Profile is old, I really haven't updated it much since the original draft that I gave to Rich when he started this website 6 years ago.


:lmfao:

You call me a punk then expect me to research your bio? Thats just priceless

I don't give a rats ass about your dumbass profile

Your takes are stupid and biased

esp the one recently when you rated conferences prior to the start of the bowl games

Now go away and I'll leave you be

BTW.....your "ignore" button isn't working


I am pretty sure that I just call you a fucking troll, but if I called you a punk then whatever. As far as my takes, I never pretended to be objective. I love douchebags like you that come "real/objective takes," I never actually seen you contribute a single useful thought to this forum. As a matter of fact, I remember that you wrote that you like to "stir the pot" (which is just a euphamism for trolling).

As far as my profile, I thought that if you were going to take shots at a guys personal life "20 year old college boi..." then you would at least make sure you knew what the fuck you were talking about first.

This is not rating the conferences:

-B12 defenses generally blow except Texas. That is definitely factoring into my picks.
-The PAC is not showing well, definitely wondering what the overall strength of the conference is.
-ACC looks like SHIT.
-Big East looks worse.
-B1G is still a question mark as is the SEC.

These are observations from prior to the 2 Jan bowls. Tell me what in that list is not right as of 2 Jan? Hell show me what out of that list is factually incorrect. You don't like my takes, that's fine. I don't contribute in this forum to interact with you. Did the ACC do something to impress you? I'm still waiting. How 'bout those Big 12 defenses?

I made a realization a couple of days ago, I don't have to put you on ignore anymore. I don't write for the front page, so I don't really represent Rich's website, thefore, I can feel free to jump right in the mud with you. No high road required.

Speaking of which, I find it ironic that a guy that comes into a forum with no interest in the team whatsoever has something to say about my interests in beating scUM or the team in general. What is more sad, looking forward to a football game and discussing it with friends or trolling a board just to get people to pay attention to you?
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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby furls » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:10 pm

Fire Marshall Bill wrote:
noles1 wrote:Damn....

If furls didn't just deliver a knockout blow followed up with a kick to the lifeless corpse that is FMB then I don't think I've ever seen a more complete rebuttal to an attack.

Well done.

That said, I forget what the hell we were talking about... oh yeah, Justin Blackmon.

If last year's board was accurate, we had AJ Green as the #1 prospect in the draft. So that shows you that the regime isn't afraid of the "high WR spot in the draft" theory. So you have to think that is an option. But as I said, if we don't come away with one of the 2 QBs in this draft then I have a major problem with what we did.


Guy is over 35 and his entire life is centered around beating Michigan and a couple tattoos...

So yeah, I'm really hurt by your slobbing his knob because he is OSU Fan

:pigs:
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Re: Bowl Pools

Unread postby furls » Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:57 pm

Fire Marshall Bill wrote:
noles1 wrote:Damn....

If furls didn't just deliver a knockout blow followed up with a kick to the lifeless corpse that is FMB then I don't think I've ever seen a more complete rebuttal to an attack.

Well done.

That said, I forget what the hell we were talking about... oh yeah, Justin Blackmon.

If last year's board was accurate, we had AJ Green as the #1 prospect in the draft. So that shows you that the regime isn't afraid of the "high WR spot in the draft" theory. So you have to think that is an option. But as I said, if we don't come away with one of the 2 QBs in this draft then I have a major problem with what we did.


Guy is over 35 and his entire life is centered around beating Michigan and a couple tattoos...

So yeah, I'm really hurt by your slobbing his knob because he is OSU Fan

:pigs:
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