by noles1 » Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:16 pm
Ton of great takes, I wanted to throw my 2 cents in. In agreement with JB, eye and many others on the overall severity of this.
Work with a Penn State grad here and he is floored.
Took back every thing he ever said about Tressel and OSU's recent issues. Acknowledged it isn't even in the same galaxy. He's completely ashamed. Even found him to be mad at the likes of Greenberg and the media types that are trying to downplay or take the "legal" defense of JoePa. Have to admit I was a bit surprised.
Then I read a couple sentences of the details and I cannot shake the disgust from my mind. Everyone needs to go. It is going to have major damage to the program but deep down this transcends any SMU, any UM, any OSU, any USC. This is children. This is youth camps. This is a group of men that conciously decided to suspend all their moral and human feelings and swept it under the rug to save a fuckin pervert. I'm not a fan of JoePa at all, similar to some others on here. Heard enough stories from friends and thru coaching circles to discount nearly every accomplishment he's had over the past 20 years but this is a borderline legacy killer. Maybe that's just my opinion and not shared by the majority but knowing what he means to that university, area and so many people. It's not even remotely on par with the Tressel admiration. JoePa was a deity. And now, he's gone and I just don't see how time heals these types of wounds.
Having grown up a Catholic and gone thru how all that has transpired over the years, I think I feel even more disgusted. I haven't set foot in a Catholic mass since I was old enough to truly comprehend and my parents have never questioned my decision. If I were a PSU grad, I can honestly say I would probably never root for them again. Being aware of that historic comp, it is just something that resonates that strongly with me.
As for the program, I think this is devastating in the sense of the court of public opinion. PSU is not getting Urban Meyer. We can put that to rest. For all his faults, Urban is a devoted family that will never entertain any notion of following such a mess. Throw in that I don't think the PSU boosters are going to approach any coach with the same vigor many thought recently. This job has become a job someone wants after the first predecessor. They also are going to have a TON of issues raising money over the coming years and I think you have to appreciate that this will leave a short-term imprint on recruits and parents that will be difficult to overcome in the next couple of years. Sooner or later it will rebound, but as some pieces have already reflected, to many PSU alumni their innocence is forever gone.
You can escape JoePa shitting his pants during a game. They will never be able to escape JoePa and seemingly their entire organization neglecting 40 counts of pedophlia. Ever.
Playing here is the closest thing to heaven. Really, I mean it's amazing to be in a place where the fans truly cherish their football team and stick behind them win or lose. We players love them, too. I feel a sense of accomplishment playing here, we are a special breed of football players with a great opportunity." ~ tOSU LB Brian Rolle
