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Braxton Miller & Urban Meyer

Unread postby swerb » Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:39 pm

Alright, I'm done waiting. Let's do this.
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Re: Braxton Miller & Urban Meyer

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:43 pm

I don't think they hire coaches after game 2.

Plus who says Urban is a lock to come here? is his ticker up to it?
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Re: Braxton Miller & Urban Meyer

Unread postby swerb » Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:46 pm

His health checks out OK ... I'd be shocked if he's not named coach four days after we beat Michigan.
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Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:52 pm

I'd think they would wait until after our bowl game.
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Re: Braxton Miller & Urban Meyer

Unread postby SoulDawg74 » Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:12 am

swerb wrote:His health checks out OK ... I'd be shocked if he's not named coach four days after we beat Michigan.


SD:

You have two premisses which I can't support .

Adding a coach who could leave you in a lurch ala Butch Davis having a nervous breakdown per the Browns .

and or supporting an offensive system which produces Tim Tebow not ready for prime time QBs .

The single most glaring problem in all of tOSU football is Neanderthal offense , add a coach like a Gruden or other who will bring an NFL Pro set and recruit the top QB's thruought the land and watch the program grow to overflowing with Blue Chips knowing they will benefit from the glow , as scouts flock to see the next Peyton Brady or Aikman , everybody else gets a bump.


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Re: Braxton Miller & Urban Meyer

Unread postby gotribe31 » Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:11 pm

SoulDawg74 wrote:
swerb wrote:His health checks out OK ... I'd be shocked if he's not named coach four days after we beat Michigan.


SD:

You have two premisses which I can't support .

Adding a coach who could leave you in a lurch ala Butch Davis having a nervous breakdown per the Browns .

and or supporting an offensive system which produces Tim Tebow not ready for prime time QBs .

The single most glaring problem in all of tOSU football is Neanderthal offense , add a coach like a Gruden or other who will bring an NFL Pro set and recruit the top QB's thruought the land and watch the program grow to overflowing with Blue Chips knowing they will benefit from the glow , as scouts flock to see the next Peyton Brady or Aikman , everybody else gets a bump.


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Yes, because they've been unable to recruit blue chippers and none of their players are now in the NFL.
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Re: Braxton Miller & Urban Meyer

Unread postby motherscratcher » Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:39 pm

gotribe31 wrote:
SoulDawg74 wrote:
swerb wrote:His health checks out OK ... I'd be shocked if he's not named coach four days after we beat Michigan.


SD:

You have two premisses which I can't support .

Adding a coach who could leave you in a lurch ala Butch Davis having a nervous breakdown per the Browns .

and or supporting an offensive system which produces Tim Tebow not ready for prime time QBs .

The single most glaring problem in all of tOSU football is Neanderthal offense , add a coach like a Gruden or other who will bring an NFL Pro set and recruit the top QB's thruought the land and watch the program grow to overflowing with Blue Chips knowing they will benefit from the glow , as scouts flock to see the next Peyton Brady or Aikman , everybody else gets a bump.


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Yes, because they've been unable to recruit blue chippers and none of their players are now in the NFL.


And Urban Meyer's teams at Florida sucked. Mostly because of terrible QB play. Tebow's Gators had no success.
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Re: Braxton Miller & Urban Meyer

Unread postby furls » Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:52 pm

SoulDawg74 wrote:
swerb wrote:His health checks out OK ... I'd be shocked if he's not named coach four days after we beat Michigan.


SD:

You have two premisses which I can't support .

Adding a coach who could leave you in a lurch ala Butch Davis having a nervous breakdown per the Browns .

and or supporting an offensive system which produces Tim Tebow not ready for prime time QBs .

The single most glaring problem in all of tOSU football is Neanderthal offense , add a coach like a Gruden or other who will bring an NFL Pro set and recruit the top QB's thruought the land and watch the program grow to overflowing with Blue Chips knowing they will benefit from the glow , as scouts flock to see the next Peyton Brady or Aikman , everybody else gets a bump.


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Dumb. Urban Meyer made Tim Tebow, who was not a perfect pro, but that is not his job. His job is to win games, and Urban Meyer has done that at all time rate. John Gruden????? What exactly is his track record in NCAAF? Oh that's right he doesn't have one. The two games are different (ask Charlie Weis). Particularly the recruiting aspect.

That said, Urban Meyer is not interested in the OSU job, from a ton of good sources. I think tOSU would have to give him something outrageous, like $8MM+.
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Re: Braxton Miller & Urban Meyer

Unread postby furls » Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:57 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I'd think they would wait until after our bowl game.


Nope, they need to get the coach's name out there right after the regular season for recruiting purposes. If they can get a big name, they need to get that advantage out there early while they can still get blue chippers on campus.
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Re: Braxton Miller & Urban Meyer

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:35 pm

As long as we win games, I couldn't possibly give less of a SHIT what they do in the NFL. Such a irrelevant argument.

Yeah Tim Tebow sure wasn't ready for prime time...... with his 2 National Championships, and Heisman.

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Re: Braxton Miller & Urban Meyer

Unread postby SoulDawg74 » Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:48 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:As long as we win games, I couldn't possibly give less of a SHIT what they do in the NFL. Such a irrelevant argument.

Yeah Tim Tebow sure wasn't ready for prime time...... with his 2 National Championships, and Heisman.

Great call, fucko.


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Right numbnutts , the tOSU Alum is Florida , and we're gonna recruit that pool .


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Re: Braxton Miller & Urban Meyer

Unread postby SoulDawg74 » Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:53 pm

motherscratcher wrote:
gotribe31 wrote:
SoulDawg74 wrote:
swerb wrote:His health checks out OK ... I'd be shocked if he's not named coach four days after we beat Michigan.


SD:

You have two premisses which I can't support .

Adding a coach who could leave you in a lurch ala Butch Davis having a nervous breakdown per the Browns .

and or supporting an offensive system which produces Tim Tebow not ready for prime time QBs .

The single most glaring problem in all of tOSU football is Neanderthal offense , add a coach like a Gruden or other who will bring an NFL Pro set and recruit the top QB's thruought the land and watch the program grow to overflowing with Blue Chips knowing they will benefit from the glow , as scouts flock to see the next Peyton Brady or Aikman , everybody else gets a bump.


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Yes, because they've been unable to recruit blue chippers and none of their players are now in the NFL.


And Urban Meyer's teams at Florida sucked. Mostly because of terrible QB play. Tebow's Gators had no success.


Tebow made Pryor look like an All Pro .

Whats wrong with getting a USC offensive minded pro set to go with our allways good defense .

It will attract the best running backs receivers and QB's and enable you to win vs all comers , instead of struggling with Toledo , you whup an SEC team every year for a tuneup , because your one step short of the pros , just like them.

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Re: Braxton Miller & Urban Meyer

Unread postby SoulDawg74 » Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:06 pm

furls wrote:
SoulDawg74 wrote:
swerb wrote:His health checks out OK ... I'd be shocked if he's not named coach four days after we beat Michigan.


SD:

You have two premisses which I can't support .

Adding a coach who could leave you in a lurch ala Butch Davis having a nervous breakdown per the Browns .

and or supporting an offensive system which produces Tim Tebow not ready for prime time QBs .

The single most glaring problem in all of tOSU football is Neanderthal offense , add a coach like a Gruden or other who will bring an NFL Pro set and recruit the top QB's thruought the land and watch the program grow to overflowing with Blue Chips knowing they will benefit from the glow , as scouts flock to see the next Peyton Brady or Aikman , everybody else gets a bump.


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Dumb. Urban Meyer made Tim Tebow, who was not a perfect pro, but that is not his job. His job is to win games, and Urban Meyer has done that at all time rate. John Gruden????? What exactly is his track record in NCAAF? Oh that's right he doesn't have one. The two games are different (ask Charlie Weis). Particularly the recruiting aspect.

That said, Urban Meyer is not interested in the OSU job, from a ton of good sources. I think tOSU would have to give him something outrageous, like $8MM+.


SD:

Gruden is not leaving the booth , I used his facsimile to say a Gruden or someone like him , meaning adding real legit offensive talent ,

With Weis he was handicapped by not being able to accept players who are eligible to play on 99% of other campuses , because of grades academic draconian codes by Notre Dame which will ever Myer them in mediocrity , and we all know even in their most pompous self righteous attire was never a problem for the Bucs .

Going forward the SEC elite will emulate the pros more and more as they get the best athletes on offense
and defense and players become more and more concerned with who provides the best stepping stone to the next level .

That being said , the coach who represents the cloned version of Lou Saban would be ideal, which ain't Urban on again off again Myer.


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Re: Braxton Miller & Urban Meyer

Unread postby furls » Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:47 pm

Do you just make this shit up?

First you say Tebow is a chump, when in fact he was one of the great NCAA QBs of all time. (Heisman Trophy and 2 NC).

Then John Gruden is a "real legit offensive talent." Based on what, winning a super bowl with one of the best defenses of the last 25 years and a barely serviceable offense?

Now Charlie Weis is handicapped by Notre Dame's high standards? Weis brought in a ton of talent, with top 5-10 recruiting classes every year.

The SEC will emulate the Pros????? Ok, here is the deal, if you watch college football you see that the game is wildly different than the NFL, different things work better in the NCAA than they do in the NFL, you don't need to run a 22 set or anything like that, as a matter of fact, there really isn't any advantage. College kids make more mistakes, miss more assignments and the best teams take advantage of that. HS kids don't look at teams and say, "they run a Pro Set at OSU I will go there." They say, "OSU is on TV every week, goes to BCS bowls, wins B1G championships and puts guys in the NFL, I will go there."

Ohio State is not hamstrung for talent, the Bucks have plenty of talent on both sides of the ball, they don't need to go to FL to get skill players, there are plenty in OH. They need to actually execute on offense and run a real life game plan.
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Re: Braxton Miller & Urban Meyer

Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:53 pm

Furls, no need trying to explain logic to a moron.
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Re: Braxton Miller & Urban Meyer

Unread postby Madre Hill, Superstar » Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:50 am

furls wrote:Do you just make this shit up?


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Re: Braxton Miller & Urban Meyer

Unread postby danwismar » Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:53 pm

If the Toledo game serves any useful purpose, it may be that it convinces Fickell that playing Bauserman does nothing to help him achieve his objective of winning as many games as possible this year.

yes, he's a senior and yes, he's 25 years old...but he has exactly two games worth of playing experience now...and it shows.

The down side of playing a true freshman is still there....he may cost you a game or two along the way...but at least he won't be a freshman experience-wise again next year. And it's going to be increasingly difficult to convince anyone that the team's chances aren't just as good to win games with Braxton as they are with JoeB. The team is going to take some lumps...let's take them with The Future at QB for at least half the snaps.
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What I do have a problem with is how many of the Miami kids seem to have gotten away with a 1-gamer for what looks like similar or worse examples of improper benefits.
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Re: Braxton Miller & Urban Meyer

Unread postby SoulDawg74 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 2:26 pm

F>

Do you just make this shit up?

SD:

Nope but it is original unlike the regurgitated public pablum too many are all to happy to slurp up around here.

F>

First you say Tebow is a chump, when in fact he was one of the great NCAA QBs of all time. (Heisman Trophy and 2 NC).

SD:

First i never said that Tebow wasn't shit in the College game so get that straight , I did say he ain't a Pro QB ,
which is why he's struggling behind two lesser QB's now myered at third string behind Lady Quinn no less.

F>

Then John Gruden is a "real legit offensive talent." Based on what, winning a super bowl with one of the best defenses of the last 25 years and a barely serviceable offense?

SD:

Gruden conceptually has demonstrated he knows offense both at Oakland then again in Tampa and studied under Holmgren and was the OC in Philly under Rhodes . is he a genuis ...no is he a guru ...no , did I restrict my projected choice to just him ...no

I said for the points of discussion an offensive minded coach using Gruden per example as a named commodity so peeps could get the drift of my overall direction , not Gruden specifically as some panacea to our problem , Personally , he can't handle QB's he's too fickle too demanding and terrorizes them rather than inspires them which is his achilles heel .

F >

Now Charlie Weis is handicapped by Notre Dame's high standards? Weis brought in a ton of talent, with top 5-10 recruiting classes every year.

SD:

They rate ND class high every year because they're ND , not because its true .

They had no athleticism , or to break it down further for ya with out the buzz words , they had no high quality Black athletes in droves pouring out of the seams like an SEC team , they have no speed no playmakers , no studs , just fine little College students playing ball and happy to be there for their education and play for their per diem .

The Alums don't want the slush fund which powers all other big universities and allows you to attract and keep those ballers , who have as much interest in getting a ND education as some of you Fuckos have in civilly replying to my posts so lets get real Dorothy and skip the fuckin bullshit.

F>

The SEC will emulate the Pros????? Ok, here is the deal, if you watch college football you see that the game is wildly different than the NFL, different things work better in the NCAA than they do in the NFL, you don't need to run a 22 set or anything like that, as a matter of fact, there really isn't any advantage. College kids make more mistakes, miss more assignments and the best teams take advantage of that. HS kids don't look at teams and say, "they run a Pro Set at OSU I will go there." They say, "OSU is on TV every week, goes to BCS bowls, wins B1G championships and puts guys in the NFL, I will go there."

SD:

I'm saying as tOSU why don't we do what we can to enjoy the best of both of those Worlds , not only are we going to play for Championships be on TV every week , but don't you think it wouldn't give tOSU alan additional advantage if they are perceived as the program which gives you the best chance for the next level ?

Yeah I know its not our job to prepare these kids just use them and so what if we ruin them , so long as we win .

What I'm saying is one doesn't have to be exclusive of the other and the benefit would mean we attract the best of the blue chips and become the premiere stop in all of College sports , which I'm not happy to report we are a far cry from now.

With evidence pointing in the direction of super conferences and an inevitable playoff , whats wrong with building in an additional competitive advantage early , or should we just continue thinking the World is flat because thats whats accepted thinking today .

F>

Ohio State is not hamstrung for talent, the Bucks have plenty of talent on both sides of the ball, they don't need to go to FL to get skill players, there are plenty in OH. They need to actually execute on offense and run a real life game plan.

SD:

Right we have no emdless pool of premiere running back talent or a legit wideout whose name would be called before the fifth round in next year draft and haven't settled on a QB stoopidly wasting two tuneup opponents on Joe Joe Bow wow , the 50 year old retread leftover , but all is well.

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Re: Braxton Miller & Urban Meyer

Unread postby pup » Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:21 pm

How did Bill Callahan work out at Nebraska?
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Unread postby SoulDawg74 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:56 pm

pup wrote:How did Bill Callahan work out at Nebraska?


SD:

Nebraska's mistake .you need a special presence to politically navigate the cornfields, and that bum never had the respect of his locker room either at College or in the Pros , much less handle that cornhusker pressure.

Ironically Charlie Weis is now the Florida OC , so while you Fuckos fiddle in your self righteous ignorant bliss , , they are sawing wood in the direction I'm speaking .

Modifying that Urban legend into a mix of College and high octane Pro sets could be the future hybrid template I'm referring too.

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Unread postby furls » Mon Sep 12, 2011 7:08 pm

I dub thee, "The Thread Killer." As soon as I see your name as the last post on a thread, I immediately don't want to open it. In the future, I probably won't.
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Re: Braxton Miller & Urban Meyer

Unread postby SoulDawg74 » Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:06 pm

furls wrote:I dub thee, "The Thread Killer." As soon as I see your name as the last post on a thread, I immediately don't want to open it. In the future, I probably won't.


SD:

Typical child's response.

Try and take your ball and go home when you step on my court in my old neighborhood and you get your ass whupped and your ball stolen.

Not my fault you don't have the wherewithal or the guts to handle yourself in a conversation where you have to make points , or defend your position with facts .

Too bad .

We may have both grown from the discourse.

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Re: Braxton Miller & Urban Meyer

Unread postby leadpipe » Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:59 pm

furls wrote:I dub thee, "The Thread Killer." As soon as I see your name as the last post on a thread, I immediately don't want to open it. In the future, I probably won't.


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Re: Braxton Miller & Urban Meyer

Unread postby Madre Hill, Superstar » Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:53 pm

furls wrote:I dub thee, "The Thread Killer." As soon as I see your name as the last post on a thread, I immediately don't want to open it. In the future, I probably won't.


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Re: Braxton Miller & Urban Meyer

Unread postby Triple-S » Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:49 pm

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/ ... ohio_x.htm

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Re: Braxton Miller & Urban Meyer

Unread postby YahooFanChicago » Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:02 pm

Good article triple S, I enjoyed reading it. Thanks for posting the link.

Hopefully Meyer still feels that way towards OSU and hopefully he is our next HC.

The guy has been successful everywhere he has coached and I think the recruiting impact would be big.
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Re: Braxton Miller & Urban Meyer

Unread postby Fire Marshall Bill » Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:38 pm

SoulDawg74 wrote:SD:

Nebraska's mistake .you need a special presence to politically navigate the cornfields, and that bum never had the respect of his locker room either at College or in the Pros , much less handle that cornhusker pressure.

Ironically Charlie Weis is now the Florida OC , so while you Fuckos fiddle in your self righteous ignorant bliss , , they are sawing wood in the direction I'm speaking .

Modifying that Urban legend into a mix of College and high octane Pro sets could be the future hybrid template I'm referring too.

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