danwismar wrote:My initial thought is that the NCAA has not learned anything in the last 24 hours that they did not know before.
Pryor and others among the TatFive said repeatedly in Dec., 2010 that they were being punished for indiscretions committed "two years ago", so like I said, this goes back way further than last April.
Also, in the Dispatch article linked above, was the acknowledgment by the NCAA at the time that the players may not have been aware of the regulations at the time the violations occurred, and that they took this into consideration when they decided on the penalties:
...the student-athletes will be eligible to play in the bowl game Jan. 4 based on several factors.
These include the acknowledgment the student-athletes did not receive adequate rules education during the time period the violations occurred, Lennon said.
NCAA policy allows suspending withholding penalties for a championship or bowl game if it was reasonable at the time the student-athletes were not aware they were committing violations, along with considering the specific circumstances of each situation.
It's pretty clear to me that OSU officials knew, or at least had been alerted to the possibility, before November, 2009, that violations had occurred, because that is when they began their "re-education" process with the team, and asked guilty players to step forward.
More importantly, it is also pretty clear that the NCAA knew about all of this in December.
Dan, did OSU inform the NCAA of the suspected infractions previous to them starting that "re-education?"
What you are saying makes good sense except for the part where the NCAA didn't punish OSU for not reporting long ago that this was an issue.
Am I missing something there, or are you saying that NCAA found out OSU knew long before the police investigation that things might not be on the up and up regarding this issue, but excused them?
Guess I'm not totally understanding the process this took, from initial discovery or suspicion to reporting to the NCAA about it.
We know what happened in December, but if this was a long standing issue, when was it that they may have first notified the NCAA?