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by swerb » Sat Dec 26, 2009 8:55 pm
by aoxo1 » Sat Dec 26, 2009 8:56 pm
Swerb wrote:Just reported by the guys calling the Pitt/UNC bowl game. No details on where hes going or what caused it.
Wow.
by aoxo1 » Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:10 pm
by Triple-S » Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:17 pm
aoxo1 wrote:Other possibilities:
Getting out before a program scandal emerges or to prevent something personal from becoming a big scandal.
Next coach of the Cleveland Browns.
Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

by aoxo1 » Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:28 pm
by noles1 » Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:30 pm
aoxo1 wrote:Other possibilities:
Getting out before a program scandal emerges or to prevent something personal from becoming a big scandal.
Next coach of the Cleveland Browns.

by Triple-S » Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:33 pm
aoxo1 wrote:Yeah, I don't really think that SSS.
But it would be irresponsible not to baselessly speculate.
Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

by Triple-S » Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:37 pm
He even thought it funny, at first, when late in that 1998 win over Michigan he saw Meyer reeling: eyes saucered, face gone pale, knocked nearly unconscious by a blast of pain. "My head!" Meyer roared. He was holding the earflaps of his headset, sinking to a knee as if his usual storm—all that furious ambition and energy—had backfired at the source. "Agggghhh!" Meyer bellowed again. "My head!"
It felt, Meyer would later say, like his skull was being split by an ax. He moved to the bench, caught his breath, got back up. He'd had headaches before but nothing like this. Any movement might bring back the pain; he felt it hovering. He was scared. As the clock spun down, every play, every twist, felt like a threat.
Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

by papacass » Sun Dec 27, 2009 12:00 am
by fundamentals » Sun Dec 27, 2009 12:07 am
by jack_tors » Sun Dec 27, 2009 2:00 am
by davemanddd » Sun Dec 27, 2009 2:20 am
by Triple-S » Sun Dec 27, 2009 3:11 am
davemanddd wrote:he's a quitter. he's a tony pena. he should never be allowed to be a head coach ever again, right??? can't wait to hear all the "yeah buts" on this one.
Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

by Madre Hill, Superstar » Sun Dec 27, 2009 10:41 am
davemanddd wrote:he's a quitter. he's a tony pena. he should never be allowed to be a head coach ever again, right??? can't wait to hear all the "yeah buts" on this one.


by Cleveland Transplant » Sun Dec 27, 2009 11:05 am
aoxo1 wrote:Swerb wrote: Couldn't have asked for a better coach, either on the field or off (there have been some problems with guys, but nothing like what went on under Zook).
by papacass » Sun Dec 27, 2009 12:26 pm
Cleveland Transplant wrote:I attended BGSU when Meyer was coaching. I had a friend who was an offensive lineman and from what I understand, Meyer was a complete ass to the players and completely unlikeable, especially at the very end when he decided to screw over the school. Maybe things changed with Utah and Florida, I don't know. But I do know he was someone that wasn't really all that well-liked in BG.
by FUDU » Sun Dec 27, 2009 2:26 pm
by leadpipe » Sun Dec 27, 2009 3:57 pm
davemanddd wrote:he's a quitter. he's a tony pena. he should never be allowed to be a head coach ever again, right??? can't wait to hear all the "yeah buts" on this one.
by aoxo1 » Sun Dec 27, 2009 4:14 pm
Florida coach Urban Meyer, who announced Saturday night that he would step down after coaching the Gators against Cincinnati in the Allstate Sugar Bowl on New Year's Day, is now having second thoughts about retirement, a source close to the situation told ESPN.com on Sunday.
Meyer, who led the Gators to BCS national championships in 2006 and 20008, is scheduled to address media members in New Orleans at 4:30 p.m. Sunday.
by FUDU » Sun Dec 27, 2009 4:56 pm
I sense complete sarcasm in that post by dave, but who knows.Lead Pipe wrote:davemanddd wrote:he's a quitter. he's a tony pena. he should never be allowed to be a head coach ever again, right??? can't wait to hear all the "yeah buts" on this one.
I think this is a really bad take, but the hell if I know if I'm deciphering it right.
Christ.
by fundamentals » Sun Dec 27, 2009 4:58 pm
\FUDU wrote:I sense complete sarcasm in that post by dave, but who knows.Lead Pipe wrote:davemanddd wrote:he's a quitter. he's a tony pena. he should never be allowed to be a head coach ever again, right??? can't wait to hear all the "yeah buts" on this one.
I think this is a really bad take, but the hell if I know if I'm deciphering it right.
Christ.

by noles1 » Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:07 pm

by Cleveland Transplant » Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:13 pm
Papa Cass wrote:Cleveland Transplant wrote:I attended BGSU when Meyer was coaching. I had a friend who was an offensive lineman and from what I understand, Meyer was a complete ass to the players and completely unlikeable, especially at the very end when he decided to screw over the school. Maybe things changed with Utah and Florida, I don't know. But I do know he was someone that wasn't really all that well-liked in BG.
Meyer did do a 180 when he said he had "unfinished business" at BG, and two weeks later he was hired as the head coach at Utah. That didn't go over too well. He parted BG on bad terms.
But not all that well-liked? Can't vouch for what went on behind closed doors, but a guy who took Gary Blackney's 2-9 team in 2000 and turned it into an 8-3 team in '01? He's was popular in BG. He turned the program around using mostly Blackney's players.
by fundamentals » Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:41 pm
Cleveland Transplant wrote:
As a student at the time, yeah. He was definitely loved by me and the rest of the campus but apparently not by the actual team. He was never personable or approachable, unlike the other BGSU coaches from what I understood.
I asked how he broke the news to the team that he was leaving. My friend told me that he had a prepared statement, read it, didn't look a single player in the eye as he read it, and as soon as he got done reading it, he split and never said goodbye to anybody.
He still leaves a bad taste in my mouth after what he did to us there.
by Madre Hill, Superstar » Sun Dec 27, 2009 11:07 pm

by Cerebral_DownTime » Sun Dec 27, 2009 11:26 pm
by bks92II » Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:26 am
by davemanddd » Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:13 am
FUDU wrote:I sense complete sarcasm in that post by dave, but who knows.Lead Pipe wrote:davemanddd wrote:he's a quitter. he's a tony pena. he should never be allowed to be a head coach ever again, right??? can't wait to hear all the "yeah buts" on this one.
I think this is a really bad take, but the hell if I know if I'm deciphering it right.
Christ.
by jfiling » Mon Dec 28, 2009 3:51 am
But if he comes back to the Gators the same Urban Meyer who rampaged through college football first at Bowling Green, then at Utah and then at Florida, then he's risking that life. He knows this. He admitted as much Sunday. "I've had a 30-year coaching career in nine years," Meyer said. "You can't do that. I just have to be smart. I'm not very smart. That's part of the problem."
Offensive coordinator Steve Addazio will guide the program for a while, but Meyer said Sunday his gut feeling is that he will coach the Gators for the 2010 season.
Meyer said he has suffered chest pains for four years. For the past two years, he has suffered severe chest pains. Though Meyer refused to acknowledge whether he needs any medical procedure to fix his current ailment, any medical weakness combined with his damn-the-torpedos style is a deadly cocktail. Meyer works so hard he forgets to eat. He frets so much he practically melts away as seasons progress.
by pup » Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:44 am
by aoxo1 » Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:05 pm
Pup wrote:Sounds to me like this is a two part story.
Part 1 - His team was lethargic and having shitty bowl prep practices and he decided to play the "I am killing myself and this is how you are going to practice" card. Worked to perfection as they reportedly had their best practice Sunday AM.
Part 2 - Once playing this card, UF got about 20 phone calls from recruits uttering the dreaded decomit word. Now, coach can't flat out come and say it was a ploy, so we get the "not retire, step back" routine.
by JCoz » Mon Dec 28, 2009 1:54 pm
Pup wrote:Sounds to me like this is a two part story.
Part 1 - His team was lethargic and having shitty bowl prep practices and he decided to play the "I am killing myself and this is how you are going to practice" card. Worked to perfection as they reportedly had their best practice Sunday AM.
Part 2 - Once playing this card, UF got about 20 phone calls from recruits uttering the dreaded decomit word. Now, coach can't flat out come and say it was a ploy, so we get the "not retire, step back" routine.
by pup » Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:28 pm
by jb » Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:33 pm
Pup wrote:Are his health issues real? I am sure they are.
Did his timing of letting this decision be known to the rest of the world have anything to do with getting his team ready to play? Every thing these guys do is planned, and it is all about winning the next game.
by JCoz » Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:36 pm
Pup wrote:Are his health issues real? I am sure they are.
Did his timing of letting this decision be known to the rest of the world have anything to do with getting his team ready to play? Every thing these guys do is planned, and it is all about winning the next game.
by pup » Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:40 pm
JCoz wrote:Pup wrote:Are his health issues real? I am sure they are.
Did his timing of letting this decision be known to the rest of the world have anything to do with getting his team ready to play? Every thing these guys do is planned, and it is all about winning the next game.
Only its not about just winning the game in front of you Pup.
If what you are suggesting is true, he has done FAR, FAR more long term damage, than any short term benifits could bring from beating CINCINATTI, sans thier HC, in the non-national championship game, in a season where they did not win the SEC.
Simply put, the play you are talking about is penny smart and pound foolish.
And I just don't think Urban is a foolish man.
by JCoz » Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:48 pm
Pup wrote:JCoz wrote:Pup wrote:Are his health issues real? I am sure they are.
Did his timing of letting this decision be known to the rest of the world have anything to do with getting his team ready to play? Every thing these guys do is planned, and it is all about winning the next game.
Only its not about just winning the game in front of you Pup.
If what you are suggesting is true, he has done FAR, FAR more long term damage, than any short term benifits could bring from beating CINCINATTI, sans thier HC, in the non-national championship game, in a season where they did not win the SEC.
Simply put, the play you are talking about is penny smart and pound foolish.
And I just don't think Urban is a foolish man.
You under estimate what can happen after a single loss to an inferior team to a man like Urban.
Back to back losses? He will have none of that.
He will talk them up for another game, in another way, in the future. And he is coaching this game, IIRC.
Winning this game is THE only thing that matters to him. Until the next game.
Love the "I am staying on board for these kids" line. Might not even need shoulder pads this week.
by pup » Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:16 pm
JCoz wrote:Pup wrote:JCoz wrote:Pup wrote:Are his health issues real? I am sure they are.
Did his timing of letting this decision be known to the rest of the world have anything to do with getting his team ready to play? Every thing these guys do is planned, and it is all about winning the next game.
Only its not about just winning the game in front of you Pup.
If what you are suggesting is true, he has done FAR, FAR more long term damage, than any short term benifits could bring from beating CINCINATTI, sans thier HC, in the non-national championship game, in a season where they did not win the SEC.
Simply put, the play you are talking about is penny smart and pound foolish.
And I just don't think Urban is a foolish man.
You under estimate what can happen after a single loss to an inferior team to a man like Urban.
Back to back losses? He will have none of that.
He will talk them up for another game, in another way, in the future. And he is coaching this game, IIRC.
Winning this game is THE only thing that matters to him. Until the next game.
Love the "I am staying on board for these kids" line. Might not even need shoulder pads this week.
Ok, pup, believe what you want. I'm sure Urban felt sending his wife and daughter on a emotional rollercoaster as well as sacrificing his long term credibility in recruiting was worth an emotional boost vs Cinci (sans Brain Kelly) in the Florida lose-lose (situation) bowl.
by JCoz » Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:09 pm
Pup wrote:What long term cred in recruiting? Sounds like someone who said Saban would never get more recruits after the way he did LSU. It is all in the moment. And gone soon thereafter.
Pup wrote:"I don't think Urban planned the whole thing to get out through the media the way it did, effecting his wife and daughter.
Pup wrote:I think he thought he had a better handle on the leakage
by Cerebral_DownTime » Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:15 pm
by JCoz » Mon Dec 28, 2009 9:33 pm
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Pup is right. End of thread.
by hermanfontenot » Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:09 pm
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Pup is right.

by peeker643 » Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:16 pm
HermanFontenot wrote:
Actually, I think the idea that Urban would fake-resign as a motivational tactic for a game is ludicrous.
by Cerebral_DownTime » Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:26 pm
"I saw it as a sign from God that this was the right thing to do," said Meyer"
by Cerebral_DownTime » Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:53 pm
by Madre Hill, Superstar » Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:18 am

by Triple-S » Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:57 am
Madre Hill, Superstar wrote:I remain unconvinced why Urb had to motivate his troops when their opponent is down to having their plays called by the quality assurance coach. If you have to fake retirement just to get your guys motivated enough to beat Cincy... no, not in Gainesville. No f'n way.
He's going to keel over one of these games, clipboard in his cold dead hands. Just watch.

Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.
Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

by pup » Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:32 am
Madre Hill, Superstar wrote:I remain unconvinced why Urb had to motivate his troops when their opponent is down to having their plays called by the quality assurance coach. If you have to fake retirement just to get your guys motivated enough to beat Cincy... no, not in Gainesville. No f'n way.
He's going to keel over one of these games, clipboard in his cold dead hands. Just watch.
by JCoz » Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:28 pm
Pup wrote:Madre Hill, Superstar wrote:I remain unconvinced why Urb had to motivate his troops when their opponent is down to having their plays called by the quality assurance coach. If you have to fake retirement just to get your guys motivated enough to beat Cincy... no, not in Gainesville. No f'n way.
He's going to keel over one of these games, clipboard in his cold dead hands. Just watch.
Ya'll been watching Bowl Games?
Ask Stupid Stoops if he wished he had found a way to motivate his team before they took an ass whooping to a Bill Stewart led West Virginia team after RRod bolted.
by pup » Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:13 pm
JCoz wrote:Pup wrote:Madre Hill, Superstar wrote:I remain unconvinced why Urb had to motivate his troops when their opponent is down to having their plays called by the quality assurance coach. If you have to fake retirement just to get your guys motivated enough to beat Cincy... no, not in Gainesville. No f'n way.
He's going to keel over one of these games, clipboard in his cold dead hands. Just watch.
Ya'll been watching Bowl Games?
Ask Stupid Stoops if he wished he had found a way to motivate his team before they took an ass whooping to a Bill Stewart led West Virginia team after RRod bolted.
Stoops has lost 5 of his last 6 bowls against teams like USC to BSU to WVU. Sometimes they fight, sometimes they roll over. Should he (or every other coach for that matter) fake a resignation every year for a new reason?
Or maybe develop a huge playbook of ridiculous ways to motivate thier team while mind-fucking thier families and flushing credibilty down the drain.
You can only cry wolf so many times though, so you have to be creative.
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