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Unread postby swerb » Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:23 pm

This is a spreadsheet I put together every year during Championship Week to help make sense of what the games mean.

(Yes, I know I'm sick)

This is who I have in and out as it stands right now. Teams in bold are at large teams not locked into a spot. Teams on the outside are listed int he order I have them right now, waiting for an in. Teams that are in are listed in order of current RPI.

My last four in: Drexel, Missouri St, West Virginia, Old Dominion
First four out: Kansas St, Clemson, DePaul, UMass

# Team Conf Record Div Rec RPI

1 UCLA Pac 10 25-4 (15-3) 1
2 Ohio State Big Ten 27-3 (15-1) 2
3 North Car ACC 25-6 (11-5) 3
4 Wisconsin Big Ten 27-4 (13-3) 4
5 Pitt Big East 25-6 (12-4) 5
6 Tennessee SEC 22-9 (10-6) 6
7 Villanova Big East 20-9 (9-7) 7
8 So Illinois MVC 26-6 (17-4) 7
9 Memphis Conf USA 27-3 (16-0) 8
10 Florida SEC 26-5 (13-3) 9
11 Maryland ACC 24-7 (10-6) 10
12 UNLV Mt West 24-6 (12-4) 11
13 Kentucky SEC 20-10 (9-7) 12
14 Arizona Pac 10 20-9 (11-7) 13
15 Duke ACC 22-9 (8-8 ) 14
16 Kansas Big 12 27-4 (14-2) 15
17 Texas A&M Big 12 25-5 (13-3) 16
18 Geortown Big East 23-6 (13-3) 17
19 Creighton MVC 22-10 (16-5) 17
20 Nevada WAC 26-3 (14-2) 19
21 BYU Mt West 22-7 (13-3) 20
22 Mich State Big Ten 21-10 (8-8 ) 22
23 Marquette Big East 22-8 (10-6) 23
24 Indiana Big Ten 20-9 (10-6) 24
25 Air Force Mount West 22-7 (10-6) 25
26 Butler Horizon 25-5 (14-3) 26
27 Wash St Pac 10 24-6 (13-5) 27
28 Oregon Pac 10 23-7 (11-7) 28
29 Texas Big 12 22-8 (12-4) 29
30 Bos Coll ACC 19-10 (10-6) 30
31 Va Tech ACC 19-10 (10-6) 31
32 Xavier Atl 10 23-7 (13-3) 32
33 Ga Tech ACC 20-10 (8-8 ) 33
34 Illinois Big Ten 21-10 (9-7) 34
35 Vanderbilt SEC 19-10 (10-6) 36
36 Old Dom Colonial 24-8 (16-4) 37
37 Missouri St MVC 21-10 (13-7) 38
38 Drexel Colonial 22-8 (14-6) 39
39 Tex Tech Big 12 20-11 (9-7) 40
40 Louisville Big East 21-8 (12-4) 41
41 Virginia ACC 19-9 (11-5) 43
42 N Dame Big East 23-6 (11-5) 45
43 Purdue Big Ten 20-10 (9-7) 47
44 Syracuse Big East 21-9 (10-6) 49
45 VCU Colonial 26-6 (18-2) 50
46 Davidson Southern 27-4 (20-1) 51
47 USC Pac 10 21-10 (11-7) 54
48 Stanford Pac 10 18-11 (10-8 ) 57
49 W Virginia Big East 20-8 (9-7) 58
50 Holy Cross Patriot 24-8 (15-1) 66
50 Gonzaga WCC 22-10 (12-3) 67
51 Winthrop Big South 24-4 (17-0) 69
52 Vermont Amer. East 25-6 (17-1) 76
53 Penn Ivy 20-8 (12-1) 79
54 W Kentuc Sun Belt 21-10 (13-6) 85
55 L Beach St Big West 21-7 (12-2) 87
56 Toledo MAC 18-11 (14-2) 89
57 A&MCorpC Southland 21-6 (14-2) 90
58 Oral Rob Mid-Cont 20-10 (13-2) 96
59 Belmont Atl Sun 22-9 (17-4) 113
60 Del State MEAC 18-11 (16-2) 123
61 E Kentuck OValley 19-11 (16-7) 131
62 Niagara MAAC 21-11 (15-5) 146
63 C Conn St Northeast 21-11 (18-2) 154
64 Weber St Big Sky 15-11 (11-5) 159
65 Mis Vall St SWAC 16-14 (13-5) 208

OUTSIDE LOOKING IN

1 Kansas St Big 12 21-10 (10-6) 59
2 Clemson ACC 21-9 (7-9) 35
3 DePaul Big East 17-12 (9-7) 60
4 UMass Atl 10 23-7 (13-3) 56
5 Fla State ACC 19-11 (7-9) 46
6 Alabama SEC 20-10 (7-9) 42
7 Arkansas SEC 18-12 (7-9) 48
8 Ok State Big 12 19-10 (6-10) 52
9 Bradley MVC 20-12 (11-9) 44
10 Michigan Big Ten 20-11 (8-8 ) 53
11 Georgia SEC 16-12 (8-8 ) 61
12 Ole Miss SEC 19-11 (8-8 ) 62
13 Miss St SEC 17-12 (8-8 ) 65
14 SDiego St Mt West 19-9 (10-6) 55
15 Appalac St Southern 22-7 (16-4) 64
16 Iowa Big Ten 17-13 (9-7) 86
17 Akron MAC 23-6 (13-3) 68
18 Providence Big East 18-11 (8-8 ) 70
19 Hofstra Colonial 21-9 (14-5) 71
20 Wright St Horizon 22-9 (14-3) 81
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Unread postby pup » Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:21 pm

I think K-State makes a run in the Big 12, and kicks The Tree into the NIT.
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Unread postby swerb » Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:20 pm

Pup wrote:I think K-State makes a run in the Big 12, and kicks The Tree into the NIT.

I'd love to see Huggie Bear get in. Maybe as a 12 seed against a 5 seed Xavier (Cincy school) ... or his old foe Pitino at Louisville?
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Unread postby pup » Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:31 pm

I'd love to see Huggie Bear get in. Maybe as a 12 seed against a 5 seed Xavier (Cincy school) ... or his old foe Pitino at Louisville?


If only the Selction Comittee went out of their way to provide these type of match-ups :eek :shock: :lol:
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Unread postby swerb » Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:08 am

Wright State beats Butler. They're in. So is Butler still.

That squeezes someone out. And makes it a little tougher for the teams on the outside looking in.

I've got Drexel getting bumped out.

Also ... last night finally saw the highlights of the end of the Colonial title game between VCU and George Mason. What an ending! That little guard for VCU, that was amazing. Like 4 steals and coversions on the other end to lead VCU back from 6-7 down witn 90 seconds left.
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Unread postby swerb » Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:25 pm

West V ... ticket is punched as far as Im concerned with the win over Providence tonight.

22 wins, 9-7 in the Big East, and that ginormous win over UCLA on the resume.
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Unread postby leadpipe » Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:23 am

Swerb wrote:
Pup wrote:I think K-State makes a run in the Big 12, and kicks The Tree into the NIT.

I'd love to see Huggie Bear get in. Maybe as a 12 seed against a 5 seed Xavier (Cincy school) ... or his old foe Pitino at Louisville?


Swerb, interested in why you would like to see Huggins.
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Unread postby swerb » Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:41 am

Lead Pipe wrote:
Swerb wrote:
Pup wrote:I think K-State makes a run in the Big 12, and kicks The Tree into the NIT.

I'd love to see Huggie Bear get in. Maybe as a 12 seed against a 5 seed Xavier (Cincy school) ... or his old foe Pitino at Louisville?


Swerb, interested in why you would like to see Huggins.

I've always liked Huggins. Ohio guy, made his bones as a Buckeyes assistant.

Also, haven't had a chance to see K State play this year. And I think it would make for some good drama as an appealing 1st rd matchup in the tourney, or even moreso if they made a run.

The way he was let go at Cinci ... coming to K St, who has sucked in hoops my whole life, getting them in the dance his 1st year.
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Unread postby leadpipe » Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:51 am

Swerb, we're going to differ on this one;

The poster boy for hypocricy in college athletics. When you string together a 6 year graduation rate of zero and actually get credit for helping the inner city youth of the country, man, how did he accomplish that?

If he never won another game, I'd be ok with it.

Well, at least he doesn't drive around hammered....wait, scratch that last comment.
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Unread postby swerb » Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:16 pm

This is what I got. Six spots, in bold, up for grabs. Upon further review, West V's Big East schedule avoided most of the better teams. The win over UCLA, the Bruins were missing Collison. I got em back on the bubble.

1 UCLA Pac 10 25-4 (15-3) 1
2 Ohio State Big Ten 27-3 (15-1) 2
3 North Carolina ACC 25-6 (11-5) 3
4 Pitt Big East 25-6 (12-4) 4
5 Wisconsin Big Ten 27-4 (13-3) 5
6 Southern Illinois MVC 26-6 (17-4) 6
7 Memphis Conf USA 27-3 (16-0) 7
8 Florida SEC 26-5 (13-3) 8
9 Kentucky SEC 20-10 (9-7) 9
10 UNLV Mount West 24-6 (12-4) 10
11 Tennessee SEC 22-9 (10-6) 11
12 Georgetown Big East 23-6 (13-3) 12
13 Texas A&M Big 12 25-5 (13-3) 13
14 Arizona Pac 10 20-9 (11-7) 14
15 Kansas Big 12 27-4 (14-2) 15
16 Maryland ACC 24-7 (10-6) 16
17 Duke ACC 22-9 (8-8) 17
18 Villanova Big East 20-9 (9-7) 18
19 Creighton MVC 22-10 (16-5) 19
20 BYU Mount West 22-7 (13-3) 20
21 Nevada WAC 26-3 (14-2) 21
22 Michigan State Big Ten 21-10 (8-8) 22
23 Marquette Big East 22-8 (10-6) 23
24 Oregon Pac 10 23-7 (11-7) 24
25 Indiana Big Ten 20-9 (10-6) 25
26 Washington State Pac 10 24-6 (13-5) 26
27 Xavier Atl 10 23-7 (13-3) 27
28 Texas Big 12 22-8 (12-4) 28
29 Butler Horizon 25-5 (14-3) 29
30 Virginia Tech ACC 19-10 (10-6) 30
31 Boston College ACC 19-10 (10-6) 31
32 Illinois Big Ten 21-10 (9-7) 33
33 Louisville Big East 21-8 (12-4) 35
34 Vanderbilt SEC 19-10 (10-6) 37
35 Notre Dame Big East 23-6 (11-5) 38
36 Virginia ACC 19-9 (11-5) 42
37 VCU Colonial 26-6 (18-2) 43
38 Texas Tech Big 12 20-11 (9-7) 45
39 USC Pac 10 21-10 (11-7) 49
40 Georgia Tech ACC 20-10 (8-8) 50
41 Davidson Southern 27-4 (20-1) 51
42 Gonzaga WCC 22-10 (12-3) 55
43 Holy Cross Patriot 24-8 (15-1) 67
44 Winthrop Big South 24-4 (17-0) 69
45 Wright State Horizon 22-9 (14-3) 71
46 Vermont Amer. East 25-6 (17-1) 76
47 Penn Ivy 20-8 (12-1) 80
48 Oral Roberts Mid-Cont 20-10 (13-2) 84
49 Toledo MAC 18-11 (14-2) 87
50 Texas AM-Corp Chr Southland 21-6 (14-2) 88
51 Long Beach State Big West 21-7 (12-2) 94
52 Belmont Atl Sun 22-9 (17-4) 113
53 Delaware State MEAC 18-11 (16-2) 123
54 Eastern Kentucky Ohio Valley 19-11 (16-7) 127
55 Niagara MAAC 21-11 (15-5) 138
56 North Texas Sun Belt 23-10 (10-8) 139
57 Weber State Big Sky 15-11 (11-5) 143
58 Cent Conn St Northeast 21-11 (18-2) 146
59 Miss Valley State SWAC 16-14 (13-5) 201
60 Missouri State MVC 21-10 (13-7) 34
61 Purdue Big Ten 20-10 (9-7) 48
62 West Virginia Big East 20-8 (9-7) 57
63 Air Force Mount West 22-7 (10-6) 32
64 Syracuse Big East 21-9 (10-6) 52
65 Stanford Pac 10 18-11 (10-8) 64


1 Old Dominion Colonial 24-8 (16-4) 36
2 Drexel Colonial 22-8 (14-6) 41
3 Kansas State Big 12 21-10 (10-6) 59
4 Florida State ACC 19-11 (7-9) 39
5 Arkansas SEC 18-12 (7-9) 47
6 Oklahoma State Big 12 19-10 (6-10) 54
7 Bradley MVC 20-12 (11-9) 40
8 Michigan Big Ten 20-11 (8-8) 53
9 Georgia SEC 16-12 (8-8) 61
10 Ole Miss SEC 19-11 (8-8) 62
11 Mississippi State SEC 17-12 (8-8) 65
12 San Diego State Mount West 19-9 (10-6) 63
13 Appalachian State Southern 22-7 (16-4) 58
14 Iowa Big Ten 17-13 (9-7) 89
15 Akron MAC 23-6 (13-3) 68
16 Hofstra Colonial 21-9 (14-5) 72
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Unread postby swerb » Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:21 am

IN: Purdue, Syracuse, Illinois, Ga Tech, Tex Tech, Kansas State, Stanford

OUT: Missouri State, Old Dominion, Air Force, West V, Drexel, Okla State

Arkansas and NC State have chances to get in the field tomorrow. K State and Stanford are my last two teams in the field right now, cheering their asses off for Florida and UNC.
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Unread postby furls » Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:04 am

I really hope drexel gets in.... if they get decent match ups, I think they could make the sweet sixteen.
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Unread postby swerb » Sun Mar 11, 2007 11:12 am

Furls wrote:I really hope drexel gets in.... if they get decent match ups, I think they could make the sweet sixteen.

Back to back wins AT Nova and AT Cuse earlier this year are impressive.

In the end though, they lost twice to Old Dominion ... once by 27, once by 10. Also Drexel was 13-5 in the Colonial, ODU 15-3. Both on the bubble ... it would be tough to leave out ODU (who also beat Georgetown) and include Drexel.

In the end, I think both get left out.
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Unread postby furls » Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:09 pm

I agree Swerb, and here is where I have a problem with the selection committee in general.

They are going to take the #8 team from the ACC the #8 team from the Big East and the #5 Team from the Pac-10, not to mention teams like MSU from the Big Ten and they will omit the Drexel's and ODUs of the world. Frankly, due to the parity in college hoops, good mid major teams are as good or better than the middle of the majors (it is confusing verbage, think about it and it makes sense), yet the middle of the majors are consistently given the benefit of the doubt. See GaTech or MSU for examples.
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Unread postby swerb » Sun Mar 11, 2007 12:16 pm

I agree, especially after Mason last year.

I was never a proponent of this, but I now advocate increasing the field by three teams to 68 teams, with one play in game in each region.

When you look at the field this year, and the types of teams that are going to be ommitted ... these teams have every bit the resume of the Mason team that went to the Final Four last season.

Teams like Drexel and ODU, West V ... Air Force and Missouri State who have top 40 RPIs. An Ok St team that went through a tough stretch, but is playing like one of the top 30-35 teams in the country right now.

You shouldn't have to leave teams like that out.
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Unread postby yargs7 » Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:16 pm

Furls wrote:I agree Swerb, and here is where I have a problem with the selection committee in general.

They are going to take the #8 team from the ACC the #8 team from the Big East and the #5 Team from the Pac-10, not to mention teams like MSU from the Big Ten and they will omit the Drexel's and ODUs of the world. Frankly, due to the parity in college hoops, good mid major teams are as good or better than the middle of the majors (it is confusing verbage, think about it and it makes sense), yet the middle of the majors are consistently given the benefit of the doubt. See GaTech or MSU for examples.


I agree 100%. Giving bids to major conference teams who finish in the middle of their conference instead of mid-majors like Drexel, ODU, ect. makes the regular season even less significant than it already is.
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Unread postby jfiling » Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:26 pm

Anyone interested in having a fantasy NCAA Dance league? I've signed up for SI's Nissan blah blah blah challenge, which has a $1,000,000 prize for picking all 63 games correctly. A "Swerb League" would be kinda cool for bragging rights, if anyone wants to play.
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Unread postby Guest » Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:28 pm

What did you have in mind jfiling?
A player pool? We used to do that and then we stopped.
How about we pick 6 players, total points scored wins? $20 per team
I'd be in for something like that.
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Unread postby swerb » Sun Mar 11, 2007 6:54 pm

63 of 65 ... I had Cuse and KSt getting in. Arkansas and ODU did instead.
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Unread postby jfiling » Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:01 pm

FightDR

I was thinking of Yahoo or Sporting News league, just for TheClevelandFan members. Ya know, for fun and bragging rights, instead of filthy lucre.

Just an idea.
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Unread postby Guest » Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:36 pm

I'm in for anything when it comes to March Madness pools.
It's the best time of the year as far as sporting events in my mind.
Let me know.
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