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by **dazindiansfanuk** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:04 pm

The K-Tribe are scoreless after 1..... but, the big news is Weglarz is back in the lineup at the DH spot after his ankle injury.

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb ... a_wilafa_1

by **dazindiansfanuk** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:11 pm

Weglarz singles and scores in his first AB.

1-0 K-Tribe mid 2.

by **dazindiansfanuk** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:48 pm

Weglarz walks and scores in his 2nd PA.

K-Tribe trail 4-3 mid 3rd as Carlton Smith gave up a grand slam in the 2nd.

Rivero is 2-for-2 so far.

by **dazindiansfanuk** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:55 pm

K-Tribe up 7-5 in the 9th.

Jon Drennen 0-for-1 with 5 walks

Mills 1-for-3 with 2BB

Weglarz 1-for-3 with 2 more walks

Rivero & Cumberbatch with 3 hits a piece.

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb ... a_wilafa_1

by **dazindiansfanuk** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:03 pm

Neil Wagner K's 2 in a perfect 9th to get the save.

by **consigliere** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:33 pm

Game wrap:

Beau Mills hit a two-out, bases loaded double in the top of the eighth inning, breaking open a tie with Wilmington and sending Kinston to a 7-5 victory. With the score tied at four in the top of the eighth, Alex Castillo belted a two-out single. One batter later, a costly error by Wilmington shortstop Chris McConnell allowed Jason Denham to reach base and extend the inning. Johnny Drennen drew his fifth walk of the game to load the bases for Beau Mills. Mills hit a rocket to right center that one-hopped the wall, the ground rule double scoring Castillo and Denham. Mills went 1-for-3 with two RBI’s for Kinston. Cirilo Cumberbatch went 3-for-4 for the K-Tribe, driving in two runs. Wilmington scored a run in the bottom of the eighth, but Neil Wagner pitched a perfect ninth inning to seal the win for Kinston.

Josh Tomlin pitched four solid innings of relief for the K-Tribe, giving up three hits and one earned run. Carlton Smith started for Kinston, giving up four earned runs in four innings. Henry Barrera took the loss for Wilmington.

The win snaps a three game skid for the Indians. The K-Tribe returns to Wilmington for game two of the three game series Tuesday night at 6:35pm. Jeanmar Gomez will take the hill for Kinston.

by **TCBinaflash** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:05 am

Mills moved to Akron by mid summer?

I think the system is gonna move him fast. Any opinions?

by **consigliere** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:49 am

TCBinaflash wrote:Mills moved to Akron by mid summer?

I think the system is gonna move him fast. Any opinions?

Mills will likely get some time in Akron at some point, especially if Hodges is moved up to Buffalo at some point.

But, the system will not move fast. Never does. It is just not the Indians way (like it or not).

by **TCBinaflash** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 3:50 pm

I don't know if I'd like it or not (accellerated promotion). But I still think they might rush this one considering the situation now and needing a solution at 3rd next year.

He would still have to dominate to even consider this as an option but it is still within the realm of possibility.

by **HackettBaseball1** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:52 pm

April 16th, 2008
Cevette Promoted to Class Kinston Indians

Winter Haven, Florida- The call finally came, three weeks after it was expected to, but it looks as though 24 year old left hander Dan Cevette will be placed on the Kinston Indians roster tonight and will be available tomorrow night for the Indians game vs. the Myrtle Beach Pelicans.

Cevette has been left off a minor league roster for the past 16 days, but with injuries, roster moves and proving he was healthy and ready to go, the Cleveland Indians have decided to place Cevette on the Kinston roster.

Between the spring training and extended spring training over the past month and a half Cevette has thrown in 6 games, totaling 11.33 innings, with a combined ERA of 1.58.

This marks the beginning of Cevette’s 6th season of minor league baseball. Over his career Cevette has appeared in 79 games (68 starts), and has a record of 16-18 with an ERA of 3.60 in 322.1 innings. Cevette will begin the season in the Kinston bullpen, and is expected to remain a relief pitcher for the duration of the season.

HackettBaseball1
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by **dnosco** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:08 pm

Thanks Bruce. Good news!

BTW, on another note. I have found the Indians new closer:

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb ... a_wilafa_1

He is not hurt, throws hard yet has the same results as Borowski.

Let's call him up!

by **dazindiansfanuk** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:28 pm

2 more walks for Weglarz.... this time both intentional. That's now 14BB and 5K in 7 games - unbelievable.

Also relating to walks, Beau Mills has a 9:7 BB:K ratio in 8 games.... a huge improvement.

by **consigliere** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:39 am

By the way, a roster spot was cleared for Cevette today as Matt Meyer is going on the DL with a sore shoulder.

by **christribeM** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 4:38 am

Lets hope this isnt the start of a Consig curse....

btw, I think its safe to assume Neil Wagner is off to a rough start.
2nd blown save to go with 2 losses and an ERA just a whisker off 10.

by **dazindiansfanuk** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:03 am

What are the odds Wagner gets cut before the end of next spring?? I'd say pretty high!

Hasn't been able to develop an off-speed pitch in 2 years in the system - probably never will.

by **dazindiansfanuk** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:09 pm

Stephen Wright is in line for a tough loss tonight. Gave up a lead off home run, but allowed only a walk after that in 6IP with 5K.

Dan Cevette has made his 08 debut with 2 scoreless so far as the K-Tribe trail 1-0.

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb ... a_kinafa_1

by **dazindiansfanuk** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:38 pm

The K-Tribe rally with two runs in the bottom of the 9th. Alex Castillo drew a bases loaded walk to tie the game and John Drennen got the game winning single.

Dan Cevette pitched 3 no-hit innings to get the win in his 08 debut as he combined with Wright on a 1 hitter.

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb ... a_kinafa_1

by **consigliere** » Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:25 pm

Cevette is on a mission.

by **DarNoor** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:25 am

Consigliere wrote:
TCBinaflash wrote:Mills moved to Akron by mid summer?

I think the system is gonna move him fast. Any opinions?

Mills will likely get some time in Akron at some point, especially if Hodges is moved up to Buffalo at some point.

But, the system will not move fast. Never does. It is just not the Indians way (like it or not).

.

That's what i'm afraid of. With the chance that the AAA team will be comming to Columbus next year, i was hoping to see Mills. He is putting up some impressive numbers.

by **christribeM** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:30 am

Great start back for Dan. If he can keep healthy I think you'll see the Indians push hard through the system to see how far he goes.

Stephen Wright with another great start. I too thought he wsa perfect for a relief role but it just shows that we havent a clue what we're talking about

Great results so far.

by **consigliere** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:17 am

I'm still not impressed with Wright. Out of everyone on that Kinston staff, I have seen him pitch the most, and I just don't think he will stick as a starter. I still think his calling will be as a reliever.....

by **dnosco** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:51 am

Remember Wright also has the perfect 3 innings in the opener and those stats become official when the game is completed. So, an excellent beginning to the year by Mr. Wright....indeed.

by **onlyindreams** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:15 am

Consigliere wrote:I'm still not impressed with Wright. Out of everyone on that Kinston staff, I have seen him pitch the most, and I just don't think he will stick as a starter. I still think his calling will be as a reliever.....

Hasn't that always been the plan though? Working as a starter will improve his pitches and when they do move him to the bullpen the strikeout totals should improve significantly. Once he switches I think he could move fast and help us out as soon as next year.

by **consigliere** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:24 am

onlyindreams wrote:
Consigliere wrote:I'm still not impressed with Wright. Out of everyone on that Kinston staff, I have seen him pitch the most, and I just don't think he will stick as a starter. I still think his calling will be as a reliever.....

Hasn't that always been the plan though? Working as a starter will improve his pitches and when they do move him to the bullpen the strikeout totals should improve significantly. Once he switches I think he could move fast and help us out as soon as next year.

I am not sure if that is the Indians plan or not. They never give info like that (understandably). But, yeah, scouts I have talked to and stuff I have read in other places all say he is a reliever down the road. So, maybe that is how the Indians have him pegged. Regardless, as you mentioned, it makes sense to keep him a starter to continue to develop his pitches and be exposed to as many game situations as possible. Also learn to develop a routine.

by **ArtGold** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:25 am

Consigliere wrote:I'm still not impressed with Wright. Out of everyone on that Kinston staff, I have seen him pitch the most, and I just don't think he will stick as a starter. I still think his calling will be as a reliever.....

A couple of interesting observations from Wright about his pitching:

"The difference I think was in the offseason, I really concentrated on my workout regiment," Wright said. "I went back to the basics with my mechanics and started over with my balance, so it now allows my body to stay on top of the ball."

"We spoke about attacking hitters and the whole mind-set," Wright said of Westbrook, a former American League All-Star. "His mind-set and approach is unbelievable. His mental approach really makes him effective, and I would love to just sit down and talk to [Major Leaguers] every day."

Pitching is always difficult to project off of minor league performance. The odd aspect is that this skill comes and goes very suddenly, but it seems as though Wright might have made some adjustments (physical and mental) which make him worth watching.

by **ArtGold** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:31 am

Though they lost this evening, a very good outing by Hector Rondon, after his first two starts stunk. He is one of those guys who really is inconsistent, either a horrible start or great outing.

He went 6 innings giving up only 3 hits and no walks, while striking out 7. Also had an 8 to 3 GB/FB ratio, an excellent set of numbers that he hopefully can build upon.

by **dazindiansfanuk** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:56 pm

K-Tribe up 5-0 over Salem after 6 in the early start.

Rondon with 4 scoreless followed by 2 more from Tomlin.

Weglarz is 1-for-2 with a 2B and a BB - 21BB & 9K in 14 games!!

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb ... a_kinafa_1

by **ArtGold** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:42 pm

You start to wonder why Rondon is an either/or pitcher. It would be interesting to know if he kind of gets down on himself when giving up a run, or if he starts to aim or overthrow the ball.

Seems like either a shutout or he gets batted around each start. Rarely seems to be just decent.

by **lollar** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:29 pm

The K-Tribe's starting pitching has not been good. They could move Tomlin and/or Stiller into the rotation if someone continues to struggle as the season moves on....but for now these will be the five starters.

I agree that Wright projects better as a reliever. His fastball/slider combo is already good enough to make him a good one.

I don't know what is going on with Neal Wagner. I heard that his velocity was down last year. His breaking pitch wasn't bad two years ago, but he was so overpowering that he kept throwing his fastball as a closer in tight games. He doesn't seem to throw as hard anymore...so I dont know what is happening.

I hope Meyer's injury isn't serious. I've always thought he could turn into a very good lefty specialist.

by **dnosco** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:56 pm

Regarding the hitting, this team has Weglarz, Mills, Martin and Goedert. With that group was have FOUR homeruns in 17 games. Is that almost unfathomable? I know the CL is a pitcher's league and Kinston is not an easy place to hit HRs but 4 HRs, c'mon.

So, you say, the hitters are learning to be more selective and put the ball in play and so are maybe not mashing as much? Well, could be except that Goedert has 1 walk and no HRs, Rivero has ZERO walks so far.

The stat sheet for Kinston shows, to me, that something is really messed up. Few HRs, some guys essentially with no walks.

Just messed up, IMHO.

by **consigliere** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:55 pm

Some news out of Kinston. It looks like lefty Dan Cevette may be injurred again. He complained of some pain his last time out, and last night he had nothing as he was a good 6-8 MPH off his normal fastball range of 90-92 and throwing 83-85. Considering he has had arm problems the past few years, Cevette could now be at a crossroads in his career.

Also, lefty Matt Meyer is ready to start throwing again, and likely will be activated off the disabled list soon.

by **Bigfist** » Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:16 pm

I thought it might be more of a leg injury, as he seemed to limp off the mound when he was leaving. I could be wrong, but that is how it looked to me.

by **ArtGold** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:45 pm

Kinston shut out on a two hitter.

My main concern though is that 19 year old Jeanmar Gomez had his 3rd good start in 5 outings, yet has fallen to 0-4 for the season.

I hope this isn't going to start impact his confidence. When a 19 year old is pitching in High A he really is young for the league. Hopefully he will start getting some offensive support, otherwise I'm concerned he will start thinking he has to pitch a shutout every time out, and start overthrowing the ball.

by **dazindiansfanuk** » Thu May 01, 2008 4:45 am

ArtGold wrote:Kinston shut out on a two hitter.

My main concern though is that 19 year old Jeanmar Gomez had his 3rd good start in 5 outings, yet has fallen to 0-4 for the season.

I hope this isn't going to start impact his confidence. When a 19 year old is pitching in High A he really is young for the league. Hopefully he will start getting some offensive support, otherwise I'm concerned he will start thinking he has to pitch a shutout every time out, and start overthrowing the ball.

Did you notice that through the first 4 innings the K-Tribe had 3 baserunners: - a single (Weglarz), a walk (Juhl) and a HBP (Mills) and ALL 3 got picked off at 1B!!

That is just ridiculous.

by **MadThinker88** » Thu May 01, 2008 12:32 pm

dazindiansfanuk wrote:Did you notice that through the first 4 innings the K-Tribe had 3 baserunners: - a single (Weglarz), a walk (Juhl) and a HBP (Mills) and ALL 3 got picked off at 1B!!

That is just ridiculous.

Either the opposing has a great move, the setting sun was blinding people over at 1st or a combination of the 2.

Find it hard to believe the 2nd and 3rd guys would let concentration slip after the 1st and then 2nd guys got picked.

by **lollar** » Thu May 01, 2008 2:52 pm

Speaking of Weglarz, Mills and Goedert hitting four homers combined in the middle of the order.......In spring training Goedert was getting his hits (as he is now) but was hitting for zero power. I don't know if he hit a single homer in ST games. He said his shoulder felt fine...but I gotta think it's got something to do with the power outage.

by **ArtGold** » Fri May 02, 2008 1:27 am

Offense finally got untracked today, with Nick getting three hits, one of which was a HR. Naturally the pitching...

by **consigliere** » Fri May 02, 2008 9:19 am

Yeah Art, the pitching is starting to worry me some. I think I made a mistake in slotting Miller and Morris below the trio of Espino, Rondon and Gomez. Although, to be fair, it is hard to rate short-season league guys high until you see them play a full season. I'll tell you right now that Miller and Morris surely would be ahead of those three if I was doing my 2009 list now.....and most likely will be anyway.

Wright has looked good so far, which is a suprise. Sorta wrote him off after the awful year he had last year....but he made some adjustments with the delivery and got to thinking less about mechanics and instead thinking about how to attack hitters. Has paid off so far. Rondon and Gomez actually have been better than their lines indicate, but Espino is a mess. And Carlton Smith needs to be moved to the bullpen.

by **ArtGold** » Fri May 02, 2008 11:30 am

I think you might be jumping the gun a little bit on the pitching Tony, I suspect that when you consider ages and level being played that Gomez and Rondon are just being very inconsistent from start to start. Regarding Espino, I just think he might be a relief pitcher who doesn't have the mindset to start (being a short righty doesn't help, unless you have incredibly long arms).

by **christribeM** » Sun May 04, 2008 7:02 am

Time to give some love for the Kinston closer Luis Perdomo, who has been lights out a year, after many of us feared he would be taken in the Rule 5.

17 IP 5 hits 0ER 6BB and 13 SO in 11 games is incredibly impressive.

by **MadThinker88** » Sun May 04, 2008 12:51 pm

christribeM wrote:Time to give some love for the Kinston closer Luis Perdomo, who has been lights out a year, after many of us feared he would be taken in the Rule 5.

17 IP 5 hits 0ER 6BB and 13 SO in 11 games is incredibly impressive.

Luis keeps it up, the Tribe needs to add him after the season or the next 'Soria' will be taken from THEM in the Rule 5 selections this December.

by **ArtGold** » Tue May 06, 2008 12:03 am

Good game by Weglarz, getting on base in all four at bats, two hits and two walks. Relief pitcher Luis Perdomo continues to excel, now going 18 innings and only yielding 6 hits, without giving up any earned runs.

Mills is struggling, going 0 for 3 and dropping his BA to .219.

by **consigliere** » Tue May 06, 2008 1:10 am

Wegs is on a tear. Up over .300 and OPS around 1.000 now. Starting to hit the long ball too. He is, unforutantely, one of the only impact bats in the minors right now. I think he could be ready to play in the majors next year, but the Indians will never push him that fast.

by **consigliere** » Thu May 08, 2008 12:26 am

Right-hander Erik Stiller has been promoted to Akron. No word on who is filling Stiller's spot in Kinston.....could be Cawiezell in Lake County. Or, possibly Espino to the bullpen and Ryan Miller promoted to the Kinston rotation.

by **dazindiansfanuk** » Thu May 08, 2008 4:59 am

Consigliere wrote:Right-hander Erik Stiller has been promoted to Akron. No word on who is filling Stiller's spot in Kinston.....could be Cawiezell in Lake County. Or, possibly Espino to the bullpen and Ryan Miller promoted to the Kinston rotation.

According to the News Herald (I posted in the Captains thread), Pontius has been promoted to Kinston.

I assume he's taking Stiller's spot.

by **christribeM** » Thu May 08, 2008 5:47 am

They obviously have no thoughts of stretching him out then. Although he maybe fast-tracked now depending on his success at this level.

His performances have been astonishing this year.

by **dnosco** » Thu May 08, 2008 9:53 am

But they already said Montero was coming down from Kinston to take Pontius' spot so we are still one short. Realize that there are a couple of 2007 college pitchers (PJ Zocchi and Johnny Williams) who are still in extended spring training. One of them could get a shot in Kinston, as well, or Cawiezell or Pestano could go up and one of those two could back fill in Lake County.

All-in-all, if you want to see the studs in Lake County better get there quick. They may all be in Kinston sooner rather than later.

by **consigliere** » Thu May 08, 2008 10:19 am

Yeah, as Denny said, Montero was moved down to LC when Pontius was moved up to Kinston.

Likely will be Cawiezell or Pestano to fill a bully role. Both could move fast, and Perdomo seems to be ready for a callup to Akron too.

I still think the likely choice will be Espino to the bully and Miller to the Kinston rotation in a promotion from LC.

by **consigliere** » Thu May 08, 2008 12:52 pm

Sung-Wei Tseng has been sent to Kinston. So him and Stiller flip spots.

by **British_Pharaoh** » Thu May 08, 2008 12:55 pm

no one is pitching to Weglarz and Mills
Weglarz in particular has a ridiculous .454OBP

got 2 great hitters there

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