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Impact of resigning Pronk

Unread postby MadThinker88 » Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:48 pm

I have to think the pending extension for Pronk would have an impact on how 1B is looked at.

In my estimation this makes Garko a possible trading chip in the hunt for back-end bullpen help or a better corner OF. Until signing Pronk, I didn't think the Tribe would have been willing to move Garko in a deal.

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Unread postby Babrook » Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:50 pm

I've always figured Garko as a trading chip.

C- Shoppach
1B- Vmart
DH- Pronk

What can we get for him, is another question.
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Unread postby captain_wahoo » Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:38 am

I don't think Shoppach is an everyday player. He does fine in the role he has. has he ever hit for average in the minors? Maybe I'm wrong, but I just don't see it.
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Unread postby pup » Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:38 am

I don't think Shoppach is an everyday player. He does fine in the role he has. has he ever hit for average in the minors? Maybe I'm wrong, but I just don't see it.


Not every position is going to be a high average guy. If the other pieces fall into place and he deveops into a great defensive catcher with power, then hell yes he can play everyday.
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Unread postby noles1 » Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:47 am

I believe that Shoppach one season hit about .290 and led the league (AA) in homers with more than 40.

That said I think Tribe fans don't realize how spoiled we are with Victor's production behind the plate as a hitter. Catcher is not primarily an average nor a high power position. We are just lucky to have the best pure hitting catcher in MLB, IMO.

I can see Garko being shopped but the problem really is that more teams could possibly want Shoppach more.
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Unread postby Mr. MacPhisto » Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:29 am

noles1 wrote:I believe that Shoppach one season hit about .290 and led the league (AA) in homers with more than 40.

That said I think Tribe fans don't realize how spoiled we are with Victor's production behind the plate as a hitter. Catcher is not primarily an average nor a high power position. We are just lucky to have the best pure hitting catcher in MLB, IMO.

I can see Garko being shopped but the problem really is that more teams could possibly want Shoppach more.


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He dinged 26 homers in Pawtucket, but that's the best he's ever done. It was only in 371 ABs, so it would project to 35 HRs in 500 ABs. Biggest problem is his batting average. He's a .260 career hitter in the minors.

Garko is definitely a trading chip, especially with the organizational depth at 1B. Mulhern is doing well at Buffalo and Tony has really turned me on to Jordan Brown. Brown's not a power guy. He can hit 10 HRs a year or so, but he's a doubles machine with a high OBP and a very low K-rate.
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Unread postby The Math God » Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:55 am

I like Garko's bat and thought he would be the new DH if we lost Pronk.
Now that Pronk is in the fold, Garko is probably gone.
Could be this season as we try to get bullpen help

Atlanta is in the market for a 1st baseman, but their pitching is a problem
Yankees need a 1st baseman and have decent prospects and an OK pen
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Unread postby Babrook » Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:59 am

The Math God wrote:I like Garko's bat and thought he would be the new DH if we lost Pronk.
Now that Pronk is in the fold, Garko is probably gone.
Could be this season as we try to get bullpen help

Atlanta is in the market for a 1st baseman, but their pitching is a problem
Yankees need a 1st baseman and have decent prospects and an OK pen


Garko for Proctor?

Maybe?
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Unread postby The Math God » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:52 am

If we look at New York, I like Bruney and Myers better than Proctor

If we look at Atlanta, I like Soriano and Moylan
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Unread postby ArtGold » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:57 am

Retaining Hafner changes the entire view of the hitters in the farm system, and their value as trade chips. Players like Brown, Barton, Garko, Francisco, Gutierrez and Drennan could all be part of trades for pitching. It certainly helps create instant trade depth.
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Unread postby The Math God » Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:10 pm

It sure does
It is a great position to be in

It is always better to trade from strength than to hurt yourself to fill a need
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Unread postby tribefan333 » Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:03 pm

Why not look for a very good SS on both sides of the ball and move Peralta to 3rd for Garko and others?
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Unread postby MadThinker88 » Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:55 pm

That SS may already be in the system with Asdrubal Cabrera.
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Unread postby The Math God » Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:13 pm

A great place to be
If we move Peralta to third, it makes Marte more of a trading piece than he currently is
Does it take away a position for Blake or make him a super utility guy?

I vote utility
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Unread postby tribefan333 » Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:17 pm

I was talking about blockbuster. Like a Michael Young type all-star.

A guy who can crush the ball and is above average in the field.
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