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The End of the Oldberto Era

Unread postby Steve Buffum » Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:18 pm

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Unread postby MadThinker88 » Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:27 pm

:roll :roll:
I guess we got our wish from last night.
Kinda surprised it was Mujica recalled and not Matt Miller.
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Unread postby cozmeesah » Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:29 pm

*dances*

While I'm glad he can't stank up the game for us anymore, I always feel a little bit of a pang of sympathy for veterans who have basically come to the end of their career.

I hope they actually play Ben F. and didn't bring him up just to sit.
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Unread postby TribeinLA » Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:34 pm

And Oldberto joins the exclusive list of other Indians washer uppers:

Steve Carlton
Keith Hernandez
Jack Morris
Jack McDowell
Ben McDonald
Dave Winnfield (but he knew his palce at least and was a great presence in the club house)
Brady Anderson

So long. Farewell!
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Unread postby Steve Buffum » Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:35 pm

By the way, tomorrow's B-List will announce the first contest of the year: last year's Haiku was Eric Wedge, and this year's will be Oldberto.
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Unread postby Steve Buffum » Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:35 pm

TribeinLA wrote:And Oldberto joins the exclusive list of other Indians washer uppers:

Steve Carlton
Keith Hernandez
Jack Morris
Jack McDowell
Ben McDonald
Dave Winnfield (but he knew his palce at least and was a great presence in the club house)
Brady Anderson

So long. Farewell!

Gracious, how can you forget The Mullet Man?
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Unread postby Hoover » Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:35 pm

It's about time. I don't feel sorry for Blowberto, another team will pick him up.

Hopefully Ben will get some playing time.

Nixon's time is about up unless he steps it up real quick.
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Unread postby Hoover » Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:45 pm

TribeinLA wrote:And Oldberto joins the exclusive list of other Indians washer uppers:

Steve Carlton
Keith Hernandez
Jack Morris
Jack McDowell
Ben McDonald
Dave Winfield (but he knew his palce at least and was a great presence in the club house)
Brady Anderson


Plus:

Jason Johnson
Jose Jiminez
Danny Graves

I could spend hours adding more, but why bother?

It sends a good message, they're not gonna tolerate crappy pitching for too long. It's just too bad they ever wasted time on Blowberto. It didn't take a rocket scientist to know his career is toast.
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Unread postby consigliere » Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:57 pm

This is the right move, and paves the way for Stanford to move to the pen. Glad the Indians were not stubborn here in keeping Oldberto over Stanford.

As to why Mujica was called up instead of Miller.....has it been 10 days since Miller was optioned out? I think it is very close to 10 days, which may have been a big reason why Miller wasn't recalled. Also, considering Mujica probably goes right back to Buffalo after Saturday's game so Westbrook can be recalled, they probably would rather have Miller available for a more long term callup.
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Unread postby swerb » Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:58 pm

Add another name to the "Year Too Late Team" ...

(good column linked below)

http://www.swerbsblurbs.com/article_detail.php?id=1583
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Unread postby Steve Buffum » Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:03 pm

Of course, in Oldberto's case, it could be argued that the first word should be plural.
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Unread postby MadThinker88 » Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:04 pm

Your right Tony, it hasn't been 10 days since Matt Miller was sent down. He was sent out 6/14/07 (which for some reason seems like a lot longer than 10 days).
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Unread postby BruceK » Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:17 pm

Well, if they whack Nixon, too, then along with DeLucci to the DL its almost like The Godfather ending, tieing up all the loose ends at once.
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Unread postby swerb » Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:20 pm

BruceK wrote:Well, if they whack Nixon, too, then along with DeLucci to the DL its almost like The Godfather ending, tieing up all the loose ends at once.

I love it Bruce!

Barzini, Tataglia, Nixon, Delucci, Oldberto ... take care of it all at once. Leave no existing ties to this off-season, and maybe everyone will just forget it happened.
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Unread postby Eckersley » Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:22 pm

Well, last year Wedgie whined that he didn't have any veteran leaders.

Shapiro went out last winter & got him a bunch. Now Gramps is gone & Dellucci is on the D'Lcci. I guess Wedgie will now have to cling to the veteran leadership & clubhouse presence of Trot Nixon, Aaron Fultz, Joe Borowski & Paul Byrd.

Some managers compain that they need veteran leaders....other managers lead.
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Unread postby paulcousineau » Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:25 pm

Nicely timed article Todd.

Maybe the Tribe brass read it and couldn't disagree.
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Unread postby leadpipe » Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:42 pm

When I Look back on the Oldberto era here in Cleveland I'll remember saying, "Who the hell in their right mind wants to add a 95 year old reliever who is obviously done." when they signed him and "Who in the hell in their right mind wants to add a 95 year old reliever who is obviously done." at the time of his release. That could also be defined as a waste of time.

Free agent signings;
Olberto - check
Nixon-check
Delucci-check
Borowski-check
Fultz-check

Ummm, the Tribe would be just as good today if they didn't even bother. And, you could argue they'd be better.

And, veteran leaders still need to generally be good players. Willie Mays might be the greatest of all time, but he wasn't a leader for the Mets in the early 70's, stumbling under routine fly balls and being late on change-ups. You need to lead by some sort of example, because if you don't, trust me, the young guys don't give a shit about what they haven't seen.
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Unread postby ArtGold » Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:55 pm

And we lost a high draft pick :-(
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Unread postby consigliere » Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:59 pm

ArtGold wrote:And we lost a high draft pick :-(


Probably saved some draftniks the headache. I mean, Mirabelli sucks, remember? :P :-P :razz:
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Unread postby ArtGold » Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:14 pm

Need to consult your new writer on that one, but the money we saved on the pick we wasted on Hernandez. Oh, wait a minute, with the probability of a draft pick actually making it Hernandez was at least as good as the pick.

Right.......
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Unread postby BruceK » Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:31 pm

Following along from the earlier discussion:

Michael, looking like the Angel of Death, walks in the room, flanked by Tom Neri and Rocco Lampone.

"Carlo, it's time for you to answer for Jason Johnson"
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Unread postby tribefan333 » Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:41 pm

The release of Oldberto instantly made us the best team in baseball...
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