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Unread postby cozmeesah » Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:16 pm

Wow, go Dellucci, lol. You're still a spore though.
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Unread postby consigliere » Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:19 pm

Consigliere wrote:Oh joy, guess who is up? The Protozoan!


Ha! I got my snarky comment in this time before the HR. That's twice now in the last 4 days. Feel free to keep making me look bad, Looch.
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Unread postby KFletch » Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:26 pm

Is our offense really awake? Could this be the end of the slump? :P :-P :razz:
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Unread postby consigliere » Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:28 pm

Mastny bailed out by a great defensive play there by Rouse and Victor. Mastny's on the way to Buffalo tonight.
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Unread postby MadThinker88 » Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:38 pm

:idea:
I think Shoppach should come out to catch. Victor seemed dazed after the plate collision and normally Vic realizes his lack of wheels means not straying too far from the base.

BTW, after watching the Marlins defense, I don't feel too bad about Jhonny and the rest of the Tribe.
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Unread postby consigliere » Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:42 pm

Way too early to sub in Shoppach for Victor. No thanks.

Also, how did they score that a hit for Hafner? That was a pop up that landed between the ctahcer and 3B that should have been caught.
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Unread postby MadThinker88 » Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:42 pm

Heck, the shot inside the dugout of Vic and the trainer shows Vic still out of it.

PUT IN SHOPPACH!!!
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Unread postby MadThinker88 » Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:46 pm

The only reason I am advocating switching catchers is because Vic seems to be less than 75% there. He's taken a number of shots and been banged around much more then normal today.
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Unread postby MadThinker88 » Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:48 pm

You knew Uggla needed to swing on that last pitch. :lol:

With the way that home plate ump has been today, I surprised Uggla didn't get tossed.
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Unread postby cozmeesah » Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:52 pm

Wow, crazy game. Mastny got lucky there that didn't hit Miggy.
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Unread postby StewieG » Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:53 pm

I was shocked when he didn't go to first base. Then I saw the replay, and it did hit the nub of the bat.
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Unread postby cozmeesah » Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:54 pm

What is with this home plate ump? Doesn't even know the count? Is there a full moon again?
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Unread postby StewieG » Wed Jun 13, 2007 9:55 pm

What a weird inning. Seriously.
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Unread postby Steve Buffum » Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:08 pm

By the way, Milwaukee beat Detroit 3-2.
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Unread postby StewieG » Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:10 pm

Gotta hold on to this one. Have a chance to blow it open with bases loaded, 1 out, and Vic and Pronk due up next.
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Unread postby Steve Buffum » Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:12 pm

Boy, this guy Pinto blows.
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Unread postby consigliere » Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:14 pm

Yeah, Hall with a 2-run HR in the 8th off Rodney to win it for the Brew Crew.

Heard that the seagull problem is a result of moths? I guess the groundcrew is putting plastic owls all over the infield, and running black labradors in the outfield all the way up until close to gametime to scare the gulls away.
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Unread postby Steve Buffum » Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:19 pm

Consigliere wrote:Yeah, Hall with a 2-run HR in the 8th off Rodney to win it for the Brew Crew.

Shit, when did Rodney get back? I thought he was still on the DL.

That's bad news: Rodney scares me (because he's got good stuff).
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Unread postby consigliere » Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:24 pm

Heh. Homeplate ump Brian Knight gets drilled with a foul ball and the fans give a standing ovation for him getting drilled. That's how bad he has been tonight.
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Unread postby Steve Buffum » Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:29 pm

Should I be concerned that this nobody CF has fouled off four of Raffy's pitches?
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Unread postby consigliere » Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:32 pm

That ball was hit hard.....Sizemore with a nice catch.
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Unread postby Steve Buffum » Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:34 pm

So, do you let Lord Joe take the 9th? Or let Ferd have a shot at it?
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Unread postby Steve Buffum » Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:39 pm

Oops, I guess if you let Raffy bat, Raffy's still gonna pitch.

But after that 9-pitch monstrosity, Betancourt has already thrown over 20 pitches ... why send him back out?
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Unread postby Steve Buffum » Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:41 pm

Okay, now I'm just confused. Borowski on the mound, but Raffy batted? I guess Shoppach was the only guy left. Why not Sabathia?
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Unread postby consigliere » Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:43 pm

Raffy is not going back out. They left Raffy in to hit because the only available pinch hitter was Shoppach, and they didn't want to lose the catcher.

Heck, I might have considered CC for a pinch hit appearance there.
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Unread postby Steve Buffum » Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:47 pm

And there's the ballgame, Cleveland wins 7-3 as Borowski closes out the Marlins 1-2-3 on 9 pitches.

I'd like to think that was a jumpstart, but really, we got damned lucky to score, much less win. Pretty nice outing by Lee after the first-inning preposteritude. Dunno if I expect much from Stanford v. Willis, but Willis hasn't really been All That this season. The Marlins offense isn't any better than ours ...
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Unread postby StewieG » Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:47 pm

Steve Buffum wrote:Okay, now I'm just confused. Borowski on the mound, but Raffy batted? I guess Shoppach was the only guy left. Why not Sabathia?


My only offer there is that if CC had gotten hit by a pitch and been injured, could you imagine the backlash against Wedge for that one? And Raffy used to be a middle infielder so he ought to know a little bit about hitting, at least.

If we were down, you would have seen Shoppach there, and if we were out of bench players and down, THEN I think CC would have batted. But as it was, there wasn't a huge risk by letting Raffy bat.
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Unread postby Steve Buffum » Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:50 pm

It's a good point, Stew: up 7-3, you can afford to let a pitcher hit. If it were closer, I bet you would have seen something else.

Of course, we let Rouse hit, and he's arguably lamer than Raffy.
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Unread postby TribeinLA » Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:51 pm

We got a big one, indeed. The Marlins are young and very promising, but they are not a good baseball team and yet they are a game below .500...this proves how bad the NL truly is. That team reminds me a lot of KC in terms of youth and quality mixed in with boneheaded stupidness. The Marlin fielders are terrible.

Weird game.
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Unread postby consigliere » Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:00 pm

That was a nice win. Still struggling, but found a way to win. And props to Lee for throwing up some zeroes after the 1st.
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Unread postby comish » Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:02 pm

I'll take it :-) :smile: :)
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Unread postby TribeinLA » Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:32 pm

Yeah, I will take it, too. I was not trying to downplay this; just pointing out that the Marlins are a bit too green for their own chance at success. I know this win is huge because momentum goes both ways. These last 5-6 days have been very frustrating.

Props to Davis Dellucci for a helluva long ball. Now, I will continue to give him a hard time until he does it with consistency. He sure came up big tonight.

Cliff Lee hit Miguel Cabrera for what reason other than Miguel being a pompous idiot? Did I miss something last night other than he getting a tad irked with Carmona for throwing inside?
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Unread postby Steve Buffum » Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:55 pm

TribeinLA wrote:Cliff Lee hit Miguel Cabrera for what reason other than Miguel being a pompous idiot? Did I miss something last night other than he getting a tad irked with Carmona for throwing inside?

I think it was more in response to Kim throwing behind Dellucci and hitting Victor: last night may have led to the choice of Cabrera as opposed to, say, Hanley Ramirez, but it seemed more like quid pro quo than anything against Miggy.

This having been said, Lee was lucky not to get ejected, as it was about as obvious a plunking as you'll see. (Ironically, as opposed to Tankersley's, which seemed like a mistake: I mean, the count was 0-2. I think Tank just missed badly, more because he's wild than anything else.)
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Unread postby StewieG » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:00 am

Agree on Lee being intentional and Tankersley not being intentional. It would take a complete moron to hit a guy intentionally on an 0-2 pitch with the game hanging in the balance.

And Lee was just protecting his teammates. I have no problem with him throwing inside on Cabrera.

But when Cabrera's bat was hit late in the game (Mastny, right?)...we got a break that it hit the nub of the bat and not his hand, because that inch was the difference between Mastny being thrown out and Oldberto coming into the game at some point.
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Unread postby Steve Buffum » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:05 am

Yeah, good point on the Mastny "foul tip." And Mastny, IMO, wasn't throwing at anyone, either: look at his walk numbers the past handful of outings. The man can't find the strike zone with a GPS. That's why I think he's the one on the Beefalo Express when Stanford shows up.
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Unread postby StewieG » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:10 am

No, his definitely wasn't intentional either. But intentional or not, he would have been thrown out, as evidenced by Tankersley. I think it's an automatic ejection after the benches have been warned for both the pitcher and manager, correct? And could both pitcher and manager face suspensions? It's been awhile since we've had a good old fashioned brawl, so I don't remember how it works exactly.
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Unread postby TribeinLA » Thu Jun 14, 2007 12:16 am

The last metting of the year is tomorrow night, I look to see see some fireworks of some type.
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