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Sowers, Lee, and the vanishing ground ball

Unread postby Steve Buffum » Thu May 24, 2007 11:30 pm

Nice game by Sowers tonight, 7 innings of 6-hit 1-run ball.

He induced 5 ground outs and 15 flies.

Open question: can this rotation thrive with two extreme flyball lefties in it?
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Unread postby pup » Thu May 24, 2007 11:51 pm

Open question: can this rotation thrive with two extreme flyball lefties in it?


No. I think one of them is the one to go around the deadline, and Sowers will be no more in a few weeks anyway. If neither is traded, then going into 2008, they compete with each other for the 5 spot with:

CC, Jake, Miller and Fausto.
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Unread postby paulcousineau » Fri May 25, 2007 8:47 am

I wondered the same thing and, with Wedge's rightful bashing of Lee on Wednesday night, if Lee may be running neck and neck with Sowers for the loser of the "Jake's Back" sweepstakes.

Remember, Lee does retain an option - so he can be sent to Buffalo to "work out kinks" just as easily as Sowers can.

I don't know if I'm comfortable moving one of them until we see Miller up here in Cleveland (assuming his finger bruise is just an excuse to limit his 2007 innings), but the depth that we have is going to cause quite a bit of interest come July 31.
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Unread postby lovsgrady » Sat May 26, 2007 10:52 am

I was so excited when I saw Sowers pitch such a great game. He just needed to bring himself together. I think this has finally been his wake up call, and I am so glad that he doesn't sleep in as long as i do. Sowers can pitch we know that, I think he has finally come back to the pitching he was so known for. :-) :smile: :)
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Unread postby swerb » Sat May 26, 2007 10:58 am

Paul's column from lat week reminded me just HOW good Sowers was in the 2nd half last year.

As fans of a team with contention expectations, and 6-7 legitimate SP, we're very quick to cast a guy aside after a rough patch.

This all said, Sowers is still the front runner to be jettisoned when Jake comes back. But it would sure be nice to get back to the Jeremy of last year, living on the corners, changing speeds, and frustrating hitters.

I can't remember the Indians ever having two extreme fly ball pitchers in the rotation before though.
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Unread postby leadpipe » Sat May 26, 2007 1:02 pm

I know numbers are over analyzed in this sports at times, however, one number that has stayed true over the history of the game relates to Sowers. That is, there are very few pitchers that have had any long term success striking out under 4 batters per nine innings. That;s not to say it's impossible, but history shows, it's highly unlikely.
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Unread postby furls » Sat May 26, 2007 1:34 pm

Sowers reminds me very much of Greg Maddox.

Neither of them has overwhelming "stuff" and both have to be in complete control of their pitches and change speeds to be effective. Maddox did it consistently over an entire career and will soon be a hall of famer. I am not saying that Sowers can or cannot be a hall of famer or that he will ever be "maddox-good," just that the two need similar things to be effective.
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Unread postby mswerb » Sat May 26, 2007 10:56 pm

Has anyone else ever seen a broken bat home run?, I could not believe that when I saw it.
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Unread postby Babrook » Sun May 27, 2007 7:39 am

mswerb wrote:Has anyone else ever seen a broken bat home run?, I could not believe that when I saw it.


I figured when he busted his bat we were safe, but when it left the ball park...I shat bricks.
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