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Tribe vs Rays 7-8-12: I CARE EDITION

Unread postby RedDawg53 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:33 pm

Cleveland Indians

SP: Zach McAllister 

RF: Choo
SS: Cabrera
2B: Kipnis
DH: Hafner
CF: Brantley
C: Santana
1B: Kotchman
3B: Lopez
LF: Damon

Tampa Bay  Rays

SP: Jamie Shields

SS: Johnson
1B: Pena
RF: Zobrist
CF: Upton
DH: Scott
3B: Keppinger
LF: Jennings
C: Lobaton
2B: Rhymes
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Unread postby dazindiansfanuk » Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:30 pm

Hagadone placed on the Disqualifed List..... punched something and fractured a bone in his hand after his shitty outing on Friday.

Self-inflicted injury has cost him a paycheck!
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Unread postby RedDawg53 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:35 pm

http://cleveland.indians.mlb.com/news/a ... e&c_id=cle

"Disqualified list". This is new to me. But I guess it makes sense
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Unread postby andrew6586 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:43 pm

Matt Underwood getting angry. I like it. I love how when he snapped at the batter, Mannig went "oooh, look out " in a sarcastic, I'm really scared voice.
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Unread postby Prosecutor » Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:47 pm

Lopez needs to go to the opposite field with a huge hole on the right side, two on and one out. Or at least get the ball in the air with Brantley on third. Instead he pulls it on the ground for an inning ending DP.

Holy shit - Damon with a leadoff triple.
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Unread postby Prosecutor » Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:48 pm

A couple of times a year I see something I've never seen before. Trying to pick a guy off third base and throwing it away is one of them.

The other was seeing a batter hit a fair ball that hits him in the back.
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Unread postby NH Tribe Fan » Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:50 pm

I can't stand when Underwood and Manning sound like the microphone is in their mouth. STO tell them to pull it away or turn down the mix levels!
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Unread postby RedDawg53 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:56 pm

Indians getting lucky so far
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Unread postby RedDawg53 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:58 pm

Makes me wanna pull whatever hair I have left out when a hitter grounds out on the first pitch for the 3rd out :gah:
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Unread postby RedDawg53 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:06 pm

Thanks NYY for Zack McAllister. How is Kearns playing? :lmfao:
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Unread postby RedDawg53 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:08 pm

Casey Kotchman :clap: (flex)
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Unread postby Prosecutor » Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:18 pm

RedDawg53 wrote:Indians getting lucky so far


Or the Rays are getting stupid. Damon has been in the league 39 years and they think they can pick him off third? That's really stupid.

Kotchman with a home run. Damon with a stolen base. What's going on here?

Armstrong just struck out the side. The first victim just stood in the batter's box and stared at him like, "What was that?"

By the way, there was a good "Five Questions" column in the PD with McAlister. He revealed that after the Tribe acquired him for Austin Kearns they completely revamped his mechanics and now he's got more velocity on all his pitches. This Reuben Niebla guy (minor league pitching coach) is one of the most valuable people in the organization, IMO.

Niles Rogers might turn out to be another example of a failed pitcher the Indians picked up on the cheap from another org and turned him into a successful reclamation project. Getting guys like Rogers, McAlister, and Hannahan off the scrap heap and making them into producitve major league players is the only chance this organization has to compete with the Yankees, Red Sox, and Angels of the world.
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Unread postby Prosecutor » Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:27 pm

McAlister loses his command in the 5th but gets out of it thanks to a line drive Choo was able to run down.

8 K's in 5 innings against one walk. Impressive stuff.
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Unread postby RedDawg53 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:27 pm

Prosecutor wrote:
RedDawg53 wrote:Indians getting lucky so far


Or the Rays are getting stupid. Damon has been in the league 39 years and they think they can pick him off third? That's really stupid.

Kotchman with a home run. Damon with a stolen base. What's going on here?


Two former Rays are both 4 for 4. Better lucky than good I suppose.

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By the way, there was a good "Five Questions" column in the PD with McAlister. He revealed that after the Tribe acquired him for Austin Kearns they completely revamped his mechanics and now he's got more velocity on all his pitches. This Reuben Niebla guy (minor league pitching coach) is one of the most valuable people in the organization, IMO.

Niles Rogers might turn out to be another example of a failed pitcher the Indians picked up on the cheap from another org and turned him into a successful reclamation project. Getting guys like Rogers, McAlister, and Hannahan off the scrap heap and making them into producitve major league players is the only chance this organization has to compete with the Yankees, Red Sox, and Angels of the world.


Never heard of Reuben Niebla. How long he been with the Indians orginazation? I gotta goggle this this
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Unread postby Am I Here Again? » Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:48 pm

Not sure if Cabrera's brain is in KC alresdy (or, possibly, up his butt) but he should have taken his body with it. We need someone INTO the game to be IN the game at SS. :gah:
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Unread postby RedDawg53 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:48 pm

Indians forget how to catch the ball? Wtf
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Unread postby Am I Here Again? » Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:49 pm

And no thanks to Droobs, Zack is charged with two runs. Cabrera had danged well better make nice to Zack after the game....
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Unread postby RedDawg53 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 2:52 pm

Am I Here Again? wrote:And no thanks to Droobs, Zack is charged with two runs. Cabrera had danged well better make nice to Zack after the game....


Give his "all-star" bonus to Zach
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Unread postby googleeph2 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:21 pm

Welcome back Tony !!!!
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Unread postby googleeph2 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:45 pm

phew vinnie! about 30 pitches
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Unread postby googleeph2 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:56 pm

chooooo
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Unread postby googleeph2 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:56 pm

chooooo in the 8th
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Unread postby peeker643 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:56 pm

Huge HR there.

Because this game had/has all the makings of a blown opportunity.

Choo looked absolutely clueless against Shields too. And if the game ends after this 9th inning he'll have had a pretty damn good day.
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Unread postby Erie Warrior » Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:02 pm

Will "The Manimal" Rhymes with a shot.

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Unread postby Erie Warrior » Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:06 pm

Great.

Just fucking great.
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Unread postby scrambler » Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:10 pm

That's a shame. First game of the first half horrid, last game of first half horrid for Perez. I'll still take what he's done.
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Unread postby Hikohadon » Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:16 pm

I've now watched 2 games this season (well, part of 2 games) and Chris Perez has blown saves in both of them.

For the sake of my fantasy team and you Indians fans, I'll not make that mistake again.
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Unread postby googleeph2 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:27 pm

That one hurt.
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Unread postby scrambler » Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:27 pm

Hikohadon wrote:I've now watched 2 games this season (well, part of 2 games) and Chris Perez has blown saves in both of them.

For the sake of my fantasy team and you Indians fans, I'll not make that mistake again.


For the good of all of us, you probably need to watch zero games a year rather than 3 or 4.
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Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:28 pm

Well...... that didn't end well.

Mainly because of Hiko.


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Unread postby scrambler » Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:32 pm

It was still a good first half. I think the team overachieved for the most part. I'm pretty satisfied with everything but Santana. His performance just concerns me. sipp was pretty bad for the most part too though he appears to be coming back perhaps. I can't complain despite the disaster today.
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Unread postby peeker643 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 4:40 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:Well...... that didn't end well.

Mainly because of Hiko.


And Peek's Nostradumbass prediction.


Never felt 'good' about that game. And seems like every ASG break Cabbie "leaves" a little bit early even if physically he's still around. That was a huge error and turned what should have been a laugher ultimately into a loss.

Yeah, Perez needs to close down a game with a 6-4 lead, one out and nobody on, but that entire game turned on and after Cabbie's fucking sleepwalk.

Pestano struggled, McAllister couldn't regroup after the error (again), just the whole tone of the game was weird.

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Unread postby Hikohadon » Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:06 pm

scrambler wrote:
Hikohadon wrote:I've now watched 2 games this season (well, part of 2 games) and Chris Perez has blown saves in both of them.

For the sake of my fantasy team and you Indians fans, I'll not make that mistake again.


For the good of all of us, you probably need to watch zero games a year rather than 3 or 4.


I think I can manage that.
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Unread postby Am I Here Again? » Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:22 pm

Who's with me on wishing that our two "All-Stars" had left early for the game in KC? I wouldn't have missed their stellar plays today...
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Unread postby RedDawg53 » Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:23 pm

Well that blows :thud:
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Unread postby skatingtripods » Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:20 pm

First game back in town and that happens.

Clearly the problem is me. Somebody pay for me to go back to Vegas.
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Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:24 pm

skatingtripods wrote:First game back in town and that happens.

Clearly the problem is me. Somebody pay for me to go back to Vegas.


How about I give you one American dollar and you go fuck yourself?

Move to Juno and stop ruining Cleveland sports.
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Unread postby skatingtripods » Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:28 pm

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:How about I give you one American dollar and you go fuck yourself?

Move to Juno and stop ruining Cleveland sports.


Do you mean Juneau? I don't know of a place called Juno. Just an overrated movie called Juno.

It'll take more than one dollar for me to go away and fuck myself.
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Unread postby Cerebral_DownTime » Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:30 pm

I'm not familiar with Alaskan cities.

Obviously.
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Unread postby Prosecutor » Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:45 pm

That's two games in a row McAlister was pitching lights out until an infielder made a error on a easy, routine play and it opened the floodgates. I can't get upset with him for giving up home runs to Trout and Pujols after Hannahan's wild throw kept the inning going, but he should have done better today. The ball that Brantley failed to catch should have been caught, too, but it looked like he didn't realize the wall was right there and his glove deflected off it as he reached for the ball.

Still, Cabby's dropped throw ended up costing four runs in a one-run loss.

The Tribe has won five of the seven games McAlister started, and it would have been six of seven if not for Cabrera's hiccup and Perez's flameout in the 9th. That bodes pretty well for the second half, considering that McAlister is our #5 starter.

However, I'm still going to have a bad taste after this one for the next four days.
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Unread postby Bigfist » Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:09 pm

No scientific evidence here, but it sure seems like the no double defense costs as many runs as it saves. Had Brantley been playing a normal depth, I think he makes that catch easily.
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Unread postby scrambler » Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:50 pm

I still think this team will have trouble finishing .500. I don't trust Lowe at all. I just think he's bad and he was the singular reason the Braves collapsed last year (look at his September stats!). I was harder on Jimenez last year on here than anyone. I hope to God I was wrong about him, and I've been greatly pleased with what he has done the first half although you look at his 4.5 ERA and 1.5 WHIP and wonder just how good is he? The trends have been good the last couple months though. I just can't get the feeling out of my head that Tomlin, Gomez, and McCalister are just guys. McCalister has obviously been the best of the 3 but perhaps the league will catch up to him too as they appear to have done with the other two guys. I think we can stay in it longer as the Tigers do have issues as Fister has been pretty bad this year (I hope to God I was wrong about him too!! I thought he'd be very good) and I'm not convinced about the White Sox although guys like Sale and Quintana appear like they may be real and combined with Peavy that's a strong top 3 better than what we have. The Tigers still do have Verlander, Cabrera and Fielder despite their issues.

I think Manny Acta has done a phenomenal job with this team all 3 years with what he has. It's a credit to him the team stays relevant well into July and August these last two years which is more than we can say about the Browns and is the only point Chris Perez is trying to make in all his outbursts. I still say 3rd place is where we're headed though. I think we need a .300 15 home run type 2nd half from Santana to push the other two legitimately.
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Unread postby Prosecutor » Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:39 pm

Jose Quintana comes out of nowhere to go 4-1 with a 2.06 ERA in 8 starts for the White Sox. He's saving their bacon. Then they trade for Youkilis and he has something like 10 RBI in his first 10 games. They're going to be tough to beat.

Same with the Tigers. I'd say 3d place for the Tribe is very realistic. Everybody is going to have to have a strong second half for them to win this division.

McAlister just needs to get over the hump. Two straight games he would have gone into the 7th with no runs allowed if not for errors on easy plays. But he was unable to pick up his defense after the errors, so that's the next hump to get over. He definitely has some stuff to work with. Five consecutive strikeouts is nothing to sneeze at, especially in the AL where the pitchers don't bat.
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