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by bookelly » Tue May 22, 2012 11:18 pm
by andrew6586 » Tue May 22, 2012 11:27 pm
by LakeErieWarriors » Tue May 22, 2012 11:31 pm
bookelly wrote:Whomever Boo'ed should be excommunicated from the Tee-Pee. PURE RAGE!WINNING!!!
by Am I Here Again? » Tue May 22, 2012 11:41 pm
LakeErieWarriors wrote:...I'll be at tomorrow's game to see what these boys are really made of.
by bookelly » Tue May 22, 2012 11:46 pm
LakeErieWarriors wrote:bookelly wrote:Whomever Boo'ed should be excommunicated from the Tee-Pee. PURE RAGE!WINNING!!!Anyone booing Rage, I'm sure was a drunken douche-tard looking for a little attention. In reality, it probably fueled Perez a little bit, but I'm sure it didn't bother him.I'll be at tomorrow's game to see what these boys are really made of.
by skatingtripods » Wed May 23, 2012 12:04 am
by Prosecutor » Wed May 23, 2012 10:33 am
by pup » Wed May 23, 2012 10:50 am
by Prosecutor » Wed May 23, 2012 12:04 pm
by pup » Wed May 23, 2012 12:29 pm
Prosecutor wrote:pup, what exactly is your problem with that post?The poster with the history of lazy extrapolation.I pointed out that Ubaldo has five wins despite not pitching all that well thanks to good run support and an easy schedule - which is true. Do you disagree with any of that?NopeI pointed out that although he allows tons of baserunners he has managed to limit the damage by making good pitches to get out of jams with runners on base. Any disagreement there?The good pitches to get out of jams is an issue. Has he gotten out of jams? Yes. Have they been because of good pitches, maybe on occasion. I said that he did a nice job last night after giving up the 3-run homer in the 2nd inning. He adjusted to what the Tigers were doing, changed his approach, and pitched four scoreless innings to give the offense a chance to get back in the game. They did, and Ubaldo got the win. Any disagreement? He got by again by being all over the place and having the fortune of some over aggressive hitters. He cannot get by over the course of 30 starts by throwing that curveball. He was very fortunate on a couple of them than hung. Because he is still not consistent in his mechanics. It is a recipe for disaster.The only thing that could be disputed was my suggestion that he might use his breaking ball more often because he's getting good results and he's still having trouble getting his fastball over consistently.So why are you throwing emoticons all over the place? Grow up and tell us what you disagree with. Say something intelligent instead of putting up cartoon figures like a little kid. Use your words. And put some thought into it, if you can.
by motherscratcher » Wed May 23, 2012 1:32 pm
by Erie Warrior » Wed May 23, 2012 1:50 pm
Prosecutor wrote:what exactly is your problem with that post?
by pup » Wed May 23, 2012 1:52 pm
motherscratcher wrote:He won, and he did get out of some jams. But I'd be happier if he didn't keep getting himself into jams.2 K and 6 BB means that he isn't getting back to his 2010 self, just that he's been unsustainably lucky. And I defer to Pup about his mechanics, which by multiple accounts are indeed a mess.Wins are nice, and I'll take them while they last. But that doesn't mean he's suddenly old Ubaldo.
by pup » Wed May 23, 2012 2:45 pm
Ubaldo Jimenez continues to be a disappointment. Yes, he picked up the win and technically was credited with a quality start tonight, but that performance was anything but quality. He’s just the 3rd Indians pitcher since 2000 to walk six and allow five hits and still pick up the victory. In other words, it was a fluke. Jimenez has now walked five or more five times this season – the only other team with that many five-walk starts is the Blue Jays (also five).
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